Historians rank Trump as worst president

[rudi49jr]

The problem with MAGA cult members is that they will reject anything that doesn’t fit their narrative, even when it comes from a highly respected institution such as the American Political Science Association, with members across the political spectrum, Republicans and Democrats alike.

On the other hand, when MAGA cult members hear that their neighbor’s daughter’s butcher’s errand boy has read on the internet that Biden holds secret meetings with Beelzebub, the ghost of Hugo Chavez and George Soros, they will immediately believe that to be true. Go figure. 

[KhunLA]

Obama & LB Johnson ... that's takes any credibility away.  Johnson was so embarrassed (as he should have been) with himself, he refused to run again ... nuff said.

 

Bush 2 & Nixon should be on the bottom of the list 

 

 

Edited February 20 by KhunLA

[rudi49jr]

5 minutes ago, charleskerins said:

Gee that was a tough choice.

Exactly. It must have cost them whole seconds to come to their decision.

[Cory1848]

6 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

Let us hope not!

If he did get in again just how low a score would he get at the end of it?

He would criminalize the scoring of presidencies and arrest presidential historians.

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, Social Media said:

Presidential historians in a new survey rank President Biden as the 14th best president in U.S. history — and put former President Trump last.

I give this the same credence as the 97% of scientists support man made global warming rubbish.

[HK MacPhooey]

4 hours ago, mikebike said:

Curious... What would 45 do in a second term to redeem himself in your opinion?

Maybe prevent the World from edging even closer to WW3

[rudi49jr]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

I give this the same credence as the 97% of scientists support man made global warming rubbish.

“Ignorance and arrogance go hand in hand” comes to mind. Just because you don’t ‘believe’ in something doesn’t mean it’s not true.

[ozimoron]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I give this the same credence as the 97% of scientists support man made global warming rubbish.

 

Long live the 3%'ers. Decades later that one is showing its age.

[charleskerins]

9 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

“Ignorance and arrogance go hand in hand” comes to mind. Just because you don’t ‘believe’ in something doesn’t mean it’s not true.

He said same credence  as 97%

of scientists so he agrees.

[charleskerins]

23 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Obama & LB Johnson ... that's takes any credibility away.  Johnson was so embarrassed (as he should have been) with himself, he refused to run again ... nuff said.

 

Bush 2 & Nixon should be on the bottom of the list 

 

 

You're the one that lacks credibility.  LBJ    Great Society ,War on Poverty ,Civil Rights.   He was a tremendous domestic President.  Obama  got us out of recession ,articulate ,intelligent    deal with Iran ,  excellent economy.    Drumpf -negative job numbers ,kissed the arse of dictators , criminal ,rapist ,sedition .     Bottom of the list way down.

[charleskerins]

30 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

The problem with MAGA cult members is that they will reject anything that doesn’t fit their narrative, even when it comes from a highly respected institution such as the American Political Science Association, with members across the political spectrum, Republicans and Democrats alike.

On the other hand, when MAGA cult members hear that their neighbor’s daughter’s butcher’s errand boy has read on the internet that Biden holds secret meetings with Beelzebub, the ghost of Hugo Chavez and George Soros, they will immediately believe that to be true. Go figure. 

i still haven't received my payment from Soros

[charleskerins]

4 hours ago, mikebike said:

No they didn't hate that. But their Overton window of what constitutes a "good" prez, may be a great deal larger than your narrow focus on your own pet issues. 

 

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

And Biden isn't?!

 

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

And Biden isn't?!

No   and he's not an enemy of American Democracy either.

[Wrwest]

9 hours ago, 2baht said:

Blind Freddy can see the same thing! Why do so many morons lap up his BS???

 

I think because they do not hear or see anyone else giving voice to their pent-up, justified frustration/anger. Keep in mind they are driven by emotion not reason.

Edited February 20 by Wrwest

[charleskerins]

9 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

That's OK, he's got 4 more years to redeem himself.

He won't get prison time and he is beyond redemption always has been.    Freaking clown selling gold sneakers what a jackass     

Edited February 20 by charleskerins
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[charleskerins]

9 hours ago, 2baht said:

Blind Freddy can see the same thing! Why do so many morons lap up his BS???

 

Because they either morons or rich Fascists.

[Wrwest]

7 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

HAHAHA... this is truly a time to consider the source when passing judgement... totally 

Hmmm, yes, I do believe so many having made a lifetime of study of the American Presidents are to be given credence. The rejection of such is exactly the reason MAFA yes are recognized as rejecting knowledge in favor of ignorance based on emotional feelings rather than fact. And so it goes ...

[charleskerins]

5 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

They ranked Biden above Reagan.

They ranked Obama above Eisenhower and Clinton.

 

Yeah, I'll trust this group. I guess they hated the 2% inflation, low gas prices, peace treaties, and elimination of ISIS.

Reagan eliminated Isis?    He eliminated most of the middle class but they weren't members of ISIS.  Unfortunately agreement on Obama over Eisenhower and Clinton.

[charleskerins]

7 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Well, if I might quote the last hope for 'Murica:

“Think of President Xi. Central casting, brilliant guy. You know, when I say he’s brilliant, everyone says, ‘Oh that’s terrible',” said Trump.

 

Trump added: “Well, he runs 1.4 billion people with an iron fist. Smart, brilliant, everything perfect. There’s nobody in Hollywood like this guy.”

 

"Nobody in Hollywood like this guy" - what greater accolade could one ask for? One assumes therefore that Mr Trump, unbothered obviously by any concept of human rights or personal freedoms, is quite happy to have his tat produced by some of those 1.4 billion people controlled with an iron fist!

 

Cut to images of a fat old man, with an improbable comb over and a violent orange permatan shuffling around waving his fists in an approximation of a dance to Village People YMCA.

 

Ye Gods!

can i get a witness!

[charleskerins]

7 hours ago, stevenl said:

What about the source?

They are presidential specialists            better to ask  dairy farmers.

[WDSmart]

I absolutely agree with the headline of this topic. Trump's not only been the worst president that I know of, but he's one of the worst people I've ever heard of. 

[Berkshire]

9 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

That's OK, he's got 4 more years to redeem himself.

More like 25 years to life. 

[Wrwest]

7 hours ago, sirineou said:

By the way, 

what do historians know? 

Personally I would trust the opinion of a Asean Now forum member some of whom have never even been in the States , over some evaducated Historian. 

 

And never mind what trump has done so far. Who worries what kind of job a person they want to hire has done in the past. 

Ah yes, decades ago Charles Dickens warned me through the character of Christmas Present of doom as a result of Want and Ignorance. I count myself as a student of history as Historians are credited with researching and writing history. Still, bottom line, after a lifetime of studying and teaching history, I do believe I certainly know a lot more history than most. But, no thank you, I do not care for a "pissing contest".

[Thingamabob]

7 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

Let us hope not!

If he did get in again just how low a score would he get at the end of it?

It depends on who is doing the scoring...

[John Drake]

Better to contemplate the best and use them as a guide for future excellence.

 

#1 FDR

#2 Eisenhower

#3 Wilson

#4 TR

#5 JFK

[Berkshire]

The truth is most Americans will not be surprised by this ranking.  The MAGA wing, of course, will be losing what's left of their minds. 

[Srikcir]

7 hours ago, sirineou said:

Who worries what kind of job a person they want to hire has done in the past. 

Think Hitler and Stalin.

[charleskerins]

1.Lincoln    2.FDR    3. George W   4.  Teddy R  5. Truman   6. Ike   7. Monroe  8. Jefferson 9. Obama 10. Clinton

 

JFK/LBJ     take away Vietnam   and they would be 4th 

 

 

 

[BobBKK]

"Historians" is so funny... but it is unsurprising lefty liberal academics would do that.

[BobBKK]

16 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I absolutely agree with the headline of this topic. Trump's not only been the worst president that I know of, but he's one of the worst people I've ever heard of. 

 

Really?  Pol Pot. Hitler, Stalin, Bush, Obama? They all killed thousands; how many did Trump kill?  I wont even mention Vlad the Impaler

[Srikcir]

9 hours ago, Social Media said:

154 presidential specialists who are current and recent members of the American Political Science Association

Soon to be sued by Trump of $1 billion for defamation.