Thailand Servicing Russian Aircraft

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, MangoKorat said:

Yes Crossy but they also risk the punishment those sanctions entail if they choose not to.

Something TH will never have to worry about.  They'll always get a free pass from the USA, which means the rest of the west.  Teflon Thailand 

 

Case in point, Military Coup & Martial Law = no USA foreign aid, so they renamed, initiated the ISA 

No foreign aid interruption. 

[Liverpool Lou]

On 2/24/2024 at 12:39 PM, bokningar said:

But I hope if they breaking the sanctions they will get on the sanction list.

US sanctions on Russia have buggger-all to do with Thailand and Thailand is not breaking any sanctions.

[Liverpool Lou]

On 2/25/2024 at 9:35 AM, Lacessit said:

if Thailand was maintaining and repairing Russian Boeings and Airbuses, that is a different matter w.r.to sanctions.

Thailand does not, and does not have to, kowtow to the US's sanctions on a third country!

[Liverpool Lou]

21 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

On 2/24/2024 at 12:18 PM, Crossy said:

Any country following US or, more likely UN, sanctions do so on an individual and purely voluntary basis.

Yes Crossy but they also risk the punishment those sanctions entail if they choose not to.

No, they do not, The US sanctions do not apply to Thailand!

[Liverpool Lou]

On 2/24/2024 at 12:02 PM, Banana7 said:

Why is Thailand exempted from USA sanctions?

For the same reasons that many other countries do not have to pay any attention to the US's sanctions on Russia.

[ballpoint]

There are no sanctions on refuelling Russian owned planes, or boats, outside of Russia.  There are sanctions on exporting jet fuel, and its additives, to Russia, and on the use of US, and multiple other countries, made components to service them anywhere, but filling the tanks using local jet fuel on foreign soil is not covered.

 

Interestingly, at least one country in the region does actively aid Russia in evading sanctions, but it's not Thailand, so no use to the bashers.

 

"“Of course sanctions affect flight safety,” said Russian aviation analyst Andrei Menshenin in an interview. “They can’t not affect it.” But he said Russian airlines had softened the impact by importing spare parts and even fully reconditioned engines through Central Asia, Turkey, Singapore, Iran and other countries."

 

Russian air passengers face peril as planes show strain of sanctions - The Washington Post

 

 

 

 

[findlay13]

Thailand will do ANYTHING for money.Don't you know that ?

[findlay13]

32 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Thailand does not, and does not have to, kowtow to the US's sanctions on a third country!

 Thailand has been playing Russia and China off against the West for years.

[Liverpool Lou]

5 minutes ago, findlay13 said:

 Thailand has been playing Russia and China off against the West for years.

It has?

Edited February 26 by Liverpool Lou

[JimGant]

On 2/25/2024 at 2:26 AM, KhunLA said:

why would TH cower to silly sanctions imposed by USA.   As those sanction do nothing but benefit the USA. 

 Stupid statement. Sanctions by the US don't benefit the US -- their intent is to thwart the Soviet Union, er Russia, from taking over Ukraine. And the EU is onboard for most of these sanctions, as they have a lot more to lose if Russia becomes their new neighbor.

 

Thailand is playing its cards close to the vest, which is wise. There are probably some interesting discussions behind diplomatic closed doors. But the US, and EU, are smart enough to realize Thailand's dependency on tourism would be jeopardized if Russian airlift was restricted. Actually, the EU has a lot more reason to get everybody onboard with sanctions, so I'd be a lot more interested in hearing about any EU displeasure towards Thailand on this jet fuel episode....

 

Anyway, it's always fun to hear members of the Old World find fault with the US. Just pay us back for the Marshal Plan, and pay all the costs for NATO, as we certainly could use all those funds we provide for EU's defense to, instead, address our domestic problems. But, maybe come November, the EU won't have the US to bad mouth anymore -- and will be building school houses to teach Cyrillic.

[KhunLA]

51 minutes ago, JimGant said:

 Stupid statement. Sanctions by the US don't benefit the US -- their intent is to thwart the Soviet Union, er Russia, from taking over Ukraine. And the EU is onboard for most of these sanctions, as they have a lot more to lose if Russia becomes their new neighbor.

 

Thailand is playing its cards close to the vest, which is wise. There are probably some interesting discussions behind diplomatic closed doors. But the US, and EU, are smart enough to realize Thailand's dependency on tourism would be jeopardized if Russian airlift was restricted. Actually, the EU has a lot more reason to get everybody onboard with sanctions, so I'd be a lot more interested in hearing about any EU displeasure towards Thailand on this jet fuel episode....

 

Anyway, it's always fun to hear members of the Old World find fault with the US. Just pay us back for the Marshal Plan, and pay all the costs for NATO, as we certainly could use all those funds we provide for EU's defense to, instead, address our domestic problems. But, maybe come November, the EU won't have the US to bad mouth anymore -- and will be building school houses to teach Cyrillic.

Really, then those must be some imaginary windfall profits of the US oil producers.  Surely nothing to do with Russian sanctions on oil sales.

[JimGant]

5 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Really, then those must be some imaginary windfall profits of the US oil producers.  Surely nothing to do with Russian sanctions on oil sales.

 

Ah, a little serendipity when you poke the Bear in the eye. But, if you think US and EU sanctions against oil were mainly for profit reasons, and not to protect Ukraine -- well, I'll let the readers assess where you're coming from.

[scottiejohn]

2 hours ago, JimGant said:

I'll let the readers assess where you're coming from.

Are we allowed to say that I think it is coming from his @rse?

[timxxx]

I have just the same question ... 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/24/2024 at 6:02 PM, Banana7 said:

Why does Thailand continue to refuel Azur Air (Russian) Boeing jets in Thailand? Azur flies multiple jets daily into and out of Thailand. Is Thailand breaking the sanctions by supporting Russian jets? Brazilian aircraft servicing agents refused to refuel Russian aircraft due to sanctions. Why is Thailand exempted from USA sanctions?

So what? It's a western conflict and if you hadn't noticed Thailand is no longer a western lackey.

 

If they want to make a few $ by servicing Russian aircraft good on them for not drinking the western propaganda Kool aid.

[FritsSikkink]

On 2/24/2024 at 12:39 PM, bokningar said:

No expert on the sanctions, so I don't konw.

But there is a moral aspect as well.

That never bother Thailand much if money is to be made ofcause.

But I hope if they breaking the sanctions they will get on the sanction list.

That might help.

Why isn't the USA on any sanction list while invading other countries ?

[Banana7]

On 3/1/2024 at 10:08 AM, FritsSikkink said:

Why isn't the USA on any sanction list while invading other countries ?

Because they follow the international rules and laws and are justified in their actions, unlike the cruel barbarians of Russia.

[FritsSikkink]

11 hours ago, Banana7 said:

Because they follow the international rules and laws and are justified in their actions, unlike the cruel barbarians of Russia.

International rules are sanctioned by the UN, most actions by the US are not.

How many (cruel) dictators did they support in South America in the last 100 years?

[freeworld]

11 hours ago, Banana7 said:

Because they follow the international rules and laws and are justified in their actions, unlike the cruel barbarians of Russia.

Does the US follow international rules and laws and are justified when the US sanctioned members of the ICC court for investigation US war crimes in Afghanistan?

 

from DW

https://www.dw.com/en/afghanistan-why-has-the-icc-excluded-the-us-from-war-crimes-probe/a-59367096

Edited March 3 by freeworld

[Hamus Yaigh]

Thailand's actions are at odds with the principles of international law and the global response to Russia's aggression. 'nuff said.