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Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)

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1 minute ago, owl sees all said:

The difference between a safe area and outside is just a few metres.

 

Not everyone has your humanity outlook Mr N.

Oh, that's alright then. Are you seriously condoning this attack? 

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1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Medical sources now say over 200 people have been killed since Sunday. 

 

#ceasefire now

 

 

"according to some medical sources"

 

What medical sources would those be? They have not said themselves. Unverified nonsense

14 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

“Contrary to what was claimed, the region shelled by occupying Israel on May 26 was a "safe zone" in Rafah that housed civilians seeking refuge from Israeli attacks, not a Hamas headquarters,” the directorate said in a statement on Tuesday.

 

https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/diplomacy/israels-rafah-attack-targeted-civilians-in-safe-zone-not-hamas

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2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Oh, that's alright then. Are you seriously condoning this attack? 

I am. Are you seriously condoning Hamas holding hostages and bombing Israel?

18 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Wow, this is serious.  Threats and warnings are not necessary.  Just go ahead and block me.

 

   You upset him because you mentioned that "ignorance is bliss" when replying to him, he go so upset that that accusation that he blocked you .

   *How dare you suggest that I am ignorant , I am going to ignore you now for suggesting that* 

4 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

The difference between a safe area and outside is just a few metres.

 

Not everyone has your humanity outlook Mr N.

This is precisely why it was a PRECISE hit.  Had the civilians been in the safe zone they wouldn't been killed. 

On 3/9/2024 at 6:17 AM, Bkk Brian said:

 

 

Graphic descriptions of sexual violence The @UN report has confirmed what we already knew:

  • Hamas raped Israeli women before murdering them.
  • There are cases of Hamas terrorists raping corpses
  • Women hostages have been subjected to rape and horrific sexual violence.

 

 

 It is appalling, but most of us know two wrongs don't make a right, and Israel continues to butcher women and children hourly.

Just now, BobBKK said:

 It is appalling, but most of us know two wrongs don't make a right, and Israel continues to butcher women and children hourly.

Israel continues to butcher women and children hourly.

 

Making things up again.

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Israel continues to butcher women and children hourly.

 

Making things up again.

It's all they have 

4 minutes ago, Social Media said:

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10 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Israel says these civilians were OUTSIDE of the safe or humanitarian area.  Others sources also report that, too.

So, if they were outside of the safe or humanitarian area, (and you believe the IDF and Israel), that makes it OK to kill and injure innocent civilians?

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

So, if they were outside of the safe or humanitarian area, (and you believe the IDF and Israel), that makes it OK to kill and injure innocent civilians?

 

   Civilians being killed in wars is one of the unpleasant aspects of wars .

There's not much that can be done about that 

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

So, if they were outside of the safe or humanitarian area, (and you believe the IDF and Israel), that makes it OK to kill and injure innocent civilians?

Why is it okay for Hamas to kill innocent civilians and hold them hostage? 

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2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Why is it okay for Hamas to kill innocent civilians and hold them hostage? 

Why is it NOT OK for Palestinians to defend themselves against an invading army intent on committing genocide?

 

Why is it OK for Israel to hold Palestinian men, women and children in prison without charges?

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10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Civilians being killed in wars is one of the unpleasant aspects of wars .

There's not much that can be done about that 

Especially when the Israelis tell the refugees to move to a safe place and F bomb the <deleted> out of the place! Not the first time during this war! 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Especially when the Israelis tell the refugees to move to a safe place and F bomb the <deleted> out of the place! Not the first time during this war! 

 

 

PBS is an acceptable news channel? 

 

Israel continues bombarding Gaza, including places it told Palestinians to evacuate to

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israel-continues-bombarding-gaza-including-places-it-told-palestinians-to-evacuate-to

Israel's operation in Rafah doesn't cross US red lines - White House

Mr Kirby was also questioned about an Israeli air strike and a resulting fire that killed at least 45 Palestinians at a tented camp for displaced people on Sunday.
Israel has said it believes the fire could have been caused by weapons stored in the vicinity by Hamas exploding.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv22pl9p212o

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37 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Israel's operation in Rafah doesn't cross US red lines - White House

Mr Kirby was also questioned about an Israeli air strike and a resulting fire that killed at least 45 Palestinians at a tented camp for displaced people on Sunday.
Israel has said it believes the fire could have been caused by weapons stored in the vicinity by Hamas exploding.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv22pl9p212o

How long are you guys going to make apologies for Israel when they do war crimes? 

The double standard and hypocrisy  hurt Israel and the west more than anything else,  especially when their supporters consequently continue making apologies for every mistake they do and for obviously war crimes. 

 

The little respect we had left in the 3. World, slowly have degraded  day by day the longer Israel continues their revenge like they have done until now.

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

How long are you guys going to make apologies for Israel when they do war crimes? 

The double standard and hypocrisy  hurt Israel more than, and especially when their supporters consequently continue making apologies for every mistake they do and for obviously war crimes.

How long are you going to keep going in circles and ignore the link I provided with quotes from the Whitehouse

 

What war crimes are you talking about here?

 

John Kirby likens Israeli airstrike that killed civilians to US bombings in Iraq, Afghanistan: ‘We did the same thing’

WASHINGTON — White House spokesman John Kirby defended Israel amid international outrage after an airstrike reportedly killed dozens of civilians in the Gaza Strip — saying the US military “did the same thing.” “We have conducted airstrikes in places like Iraq and Afghanistan where, tragically, we caused civilian casualties,” he said — adding that the US responded the same way as Israel in the aftermath.

“We owned up to it, we investigated it, and we tried to learn from it to make changes,” Kirby said at Tuesday’s regular White House briefing.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/28/us-news/john-kirby-likens-israeli-airstrike-that-killed-civilians-to-us-bombings-in-iraq-afghanistan

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

How long are you going to keep going in circles and ignore the link I provided with quotes from the Whitehouse

 

What war crimes are you talking about here?

 

John Kirby likens Israeli airstrike that killed civilians to US bombings in Iraq, Afghanistan: ‘We did the same thing’

WASHINGTON — White House spokesman John Kirby defended Israel amid international outrage after an airstrike reportedly killed dozens of civilians in the Gaza Strip — saying the US military “did the same thing.” “We have conducted airstrikes in places like Iraq and Afghanistan where, tragically, we caused civilian casualties,” he said — adding that the US responded the same way as Israel in the aftermath.

“We owned up to it, we investigated it, and we tried to learn from it to make changes,” Kirby said at Tuesday’s regular White House briefing.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/28/us-news/john-kirby-likens-israeli-airstrike-that-killed-civilians-to-us-bombings-in-iraq-afghanistan

Thank you for using my terminology going in circles!

So, if Usa used Napalm, burned down villages in Vietnam, it should excuse Israel's crimes? 

Oh my, no wonder this world is status Q, and again it proves the double standard, and why we are losing out against the 3. world. It has all to do with the situation we are standing with both feet in today.

 

Today's world is changing faster with social medias influence, and challenging our standards, our wealth based on our dominance, making countries we do not want to associate with, continue to make stronger bonds, and slowly win the information and propaganda war! It is as simple as that what we are facing the next decades.

 

It is okay to think, and see the reality of our actions, our thoughts about right and wrong, and also see how it influence our position now, and future. 

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Thank you for using my terminology going in circles!

So, if Usa used Napalm, burned down villages in Vietnam, it should excuse Israel's crimes? 

Oh my, no wonder this world is status Q, and again it proves the double standard, and why we are losing out against the 3. world. It has all to do with the situation we are standing with both feet in today.

 

Today's world is changing faster with social medias influence, and challenging our standards, our wealth based on our dominance, making countries we do not want to associate with, continue to make stronger bonds, and slowly win the information and propaganda war! It is as simple as that what we are facing the next decades.

 

It is okay to think, and see the reality of our actions, our thoughts about right and wrong, and also see how it influence our position now, and future. 

Thank you for using my terminology going in circles!

 

No problem, its your favorite response so I decided to beat you to it this time.

 

Lets not be silly though about Napalm to burn villages and people, that's a little extreme except for Hamas of course. They are used to burning people alive with intent. 

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Especially when the Israelis tell the refugees to move to a safe place and F bomb the <deleted> out of the place! Not the first time during this war! 

 

 

 

   That wasn't deliberate though , you are attempting to gave a false account of events . 

   Israel accidently hit a tent , you are falsely claiming that it was deliberate 

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That wasn't deliberate though , you are attempting to gave a false account of events . 

   Israel accidently hit a tent , you are falsely claiming that it was deliberate 

It is not me who says it was with intention, read the news from accepted trustworty channels. 

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Thank you for using my terminology going in circles!

 

No problem, its your favorite response so I decided to beat you to it this time.

 

Lets not be silly though about Napalm to burn villages and people, that's a little extreme except for Hamas of course. They are used to burning people alive with intent. 

The problem, none of the previously wars stabilized the world, it made it worse or as it always have been. 

 

One terror attack is enough to invade and kill innocent civilians have been accepted to long, and for doesnt solve the problems. We know that now, still that is the only tool we know and use. 

 

Once more middle east is at fire, 

Just now, Hummin said:

It is not me who says it was with intention, read the news from accepted trustworty channels. 

 

   In your post , you made it sound like it was a deliberate bombing . 

Sounds like Israel targeted two Hamas members and something on the ground exploded (Hamas bombs ?) killing civilians 

Just now, Hummin said:

The problem, none of the previously wars stabilized the world, it made it worse or as it always have been. 

 

One terror attack is enough to invade and kill innocent civilians have been accepted to long, and for doesnt solve the problems. We know that now, still that is the only tool we know and use. 

 

Once more middle east is at fire, 

 

 Again you are giving a misrepresentation of events .

Israel are targeting Hamas and Israel are not targeting civilians 

 

What should happed to the Oct 7 terrorists ?

Should they be held accountable for their actions or just be allowed to get a way with it ?

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

The problem, none of the previously wars stabilized the world, it made it worse or as it always have been. 

 

One terror attack is enough to invade and kill innocent civilians have been accepted to long, and for doesnt solve the problems. We know that now, still that is the only tool we know and use. 

 

Once more middle east is at fire, 

Hamas should have thought about that before it started it. They can stop it today if they wanted to. Of course you could talk nicely to Hamas and say pretty please, give up the hostages and give yourselves up. 

43 minutes ago, Hummin said:

How long are you guys going to make apologies for Israel when they do war crimes? 

The double standard and hypocrisy  hurt Israel and the west more than anything else,  especially when their supporters consequently continue making apologies for every mistake they do and for obviously war crimes. 

 

The little respect we had left in the 3. World, slowly have degraded  day by day the longer Israel continues their revenge like they have done until now.

Not revenge, Hamas has vowed to carry on these barbaric attacks and I'm sure you'll Agree none of us want that do we? Israel has no choice, the ball is in the terrorists hands.

57 minutes ago, Hummin said:

How long are you guys going to make apologies for Israel when they do war crimes? 

 

 

   Israel hasn't committed any war crimes though .

Once again, you are mispresenting the facts . you are making a habit of misrepresenting facts 

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