3 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Where is the claim he does not want them to return after it’s been rebuilt?

 

   The Gazians could move out for a few years and Israel rebuilds Gaza and Gazains move back in once its finished , although I expect it will take 30-50 years to completely rebuild Gaza , but it will look nice once its finished 

Reported post with random twitter inclusion removed.

 

Bona fide news agencies, please.

4 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Highly relevant, show me where it would still be genocide if you intend them to move back after it has been rebuilt or the war is over

 

They can't be displaced in the first instance. It's ethnic cleansing. End of.

 

It's frankly ridiculous to believe that Kushner wants to rebuild Gaza with lovely seafront properties and give it all back to the Gazans. A risible suggestion in my view.

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

They can't be displaced in the first instance. It's ethnic cleansing. End of.

 

It's frankly ridiculous to believe that Kushner wants to rebuild Gaza with lovely seafront properties and give it all back to the Gazans. A risible suggestion in my view.

You edited your post again after I already replied. End of

6 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Highly relevant, show me where it would still be genocide if you intend them to move back after it has been rebuilt or the war is over

Here are the posts that show you where it would still be genocide...

15 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

"Moving the people out" is displacement of a civilian population in whole or in part. That's does constitute genocide and ethnic cleansing.

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Irrelevant. You can choose to believe he doesn't mean Gaza should be repopulated by Israeli property developers if you wish. I choose not to. The initial displacement is illegal under international law.

 

 

2 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Here are the posts that show you where it would still be genocide...

 

 

Nope, need credible links to this being genocide. Not a random poster.. If you want to move people out of harms way and then return them in newly built accommodation is genocide. Link please

6 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Nope, need credible links to this being genocide. Not a random poster.. If you want to move people out of harms way and then return them in newly built accommodation is genocide. Link please

 

There is no harm if Israel chooses not to create it. Revenge against the civilian population aka collective punishment is illegal. Again, your suggestion that Israel intends to rebuild all that it destroyed and return it to Gazans is preposterous. Point to where anyone made that suggestion. The argument is a furphy.

 

edit: A furphy is Australian slang for an erroneous or improbable story that is claimed to be factual. Furphies are supposedly heard from reputable source

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

There is no harm if Israel chooses not to create it. Revenge against the civilian population aka collective punishment is illegal. Again, your suggestion that Israel intends to rebuild all that it destroyed and return it to Gazans is preposterous. Point to where anyone made that suggestion. The argument is a furphy.

I’ve finished speaking to you, already told you that. You always edit your posts after I’ve already replied. End of

8 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Nope, need credible links to this being genocide. Not a random poster.. If you want to move people out of harms way and then return them in newly built accommodation is genocide. Link please

 

   Genocide means :

 

"Genocide is an internationally recognized crime where acts are committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group."

 

   Moving Gazians to live somewhere else would not be genocide , genocide would be leaving them in Gaza where they could be killed 

 

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Genocide means :

 

"Genocide is an internationally recognized crime where acts are committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group."

 

   Moving Gazians to live somewhere else would not be genocide , genocide would be leaving them in Gaza where they could be killed 

 

 

It would be considered ethnic cleansing and also fits the definition of genocide

 

The ICTR provided guidance into what constitutes a violation of the third act. In Akayesu, it identified "subjecting a group of people to a subsistence diet, systematic expulsion from homes

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

It would be considered ethnic cleansing.

Simple things is hard for some! Blinded by colurs and hate, programmed to follow the same pattern, and see nothing else than one side, feel only one sides suffering, 

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Simple things is hard for some! Blinded by colurs and hate, programmed to follow the same pattern, and see nothing else than one side, feel only one sides suffering, 

 

   Palestinians  came to Israel from the surrounding Countries , they would just be going back to where they came from 

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Simple things is hard for some! Blinded by colurs and hate, programmed to follow the same pattern, and see nothing else than one side, feel only one sides suffering, 

Yes we must ethnically cleanse this area while we re build it for them free of charge because Hamas used it to fight from. Once we've finished we will then ethnically cleanse them back again to brand new homes.

 

source

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Palestinians  came to Israel from the surrounding Countries , they would just be going back to where they came from 

You know your history well 👏

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes we must ethnically cleanse this area while we re build it for them free of charge because Hamas used it to fight from. Once we've finished we will then ethnically cleanse them back again to brand new homes.

 

 

 

source

We? 

 

Dont make me laughing. Isreal should have their reserves frozen, and used to build bak up again

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

We? 

 

Dont make me laughing. Isreal should have their reserves frozen, and used to build bak up again

"We" was a figure of speech, didn't realize you would find that so amusing, don't worry, you do not have to pay a penny, promise.

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You know your history well 👏

 

  Many of the Palestians surnames originate from neighbouring Arab Countries and they flocked to Israel because of the prosperity 

Some off topic posts and replies have been removed

13 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

"We" was a figure of speech, didn't realize you would find that so amusing, don't worry, you do not have to pay a penny, promise.

I already do, I pay tax, and my country do humanitarian work all over the world, as well run Nordbatt Unified for 20 years, where many of my friends served. Some Damaged for life mentally and physically.

 

They went pro Isreal, came back pro Palestinian after they learned how it really was, and not only western Israel pro propaganda. I was to enroll myself, but because of one incident of disciplinary reasons prevented me from go.  Would say I was lucky. 

 

The government foundings to rebuild palestine is founded by tax moneys.

 

Your narrowed minded world view is disappointing, and your lack empathy 

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I already do, I pay tax, and my country do humanitarian work all over the world, as well run Nordbatt Unified where many of my friends served. Some Damaged for life mentally and physically.

 

They went pro Isreal, came back pro Palestinian after they learned how it really was, and not only western Israel pro propaganda. I was to enroll myself, but because of one incident of disciplinary reasons prevented me from go.  Would say I was lucky. 

 

The government foundings to rebuild palestine is founded by tax moneys.

 

Your narrowed minded world view is disappointing, and your lack empathy 

How do you know your country will be contributing to rebuilding Gaza where it was damaged because of Hamas using the civilian infrastructure to hide and launch its rockets from along with all the tunnels underneath? I heard Qatar is eager to help.

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

How do you know your country will be contributing to rebuilding Gaza where it was damaged because of Hamas using the civilian infrastructure to hide and launch its rockets from along with all the tunnels underneath? I heard Qatar is eager to help.

Do not worry, they will, Im sure of it, we have  long relationship and sympathy with the area after Norbatt contribution, where word got out how the real situation was on the ground, and not only propaganda targeting news favouring Israel. 

Just now, Hummin said:

Do not worry, they will, Im sure of it, we have  long relationship and sympathy with the area after Norbatt contribution, where word got out how the real situation was on the ground, and not only propaganda targeting news favouring Israel. 

Who said I was worrying but so long as you're sure then that's all Gaza needs 

40 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Palestinians  came to Israel from the surrounding Countries , they would just be going back to where they came from 

LOL. Perhaps the israelis can go back where they came from too.

Even the early Israelites came from somewhere else.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel

The archaeological record indicates that the culture that later evolved into the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah emerged in the Early Iron Age (

 

 

 

25 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

How do you know your country will be contributing to rebuilding Gaza where it was damaged because of Hamas using the civilian infrastructure to hide and launch its rockets from along with all the tunnels underneath? I heard Qatar is eager to help.

 

I don't think that Gazans want Israel to rebuild anything. They would prefer to rely on international assistance.  They know it would just mean more illegal Israeli settlements. If Israel was in charge of rebuilding then it would be planned by Israelis instead of Palestinians and Israeli construction companies would benefit from any international financial assistance, instead of Palestinian construction companies.

 

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. Perhaps the israelis can go back where they came from too.

Even the early Israelites came from somewhere else.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel

The archaeological record indicates that the culture that later evolved into the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah emerged in the Early Iron Age (

 

 

 

Jews came to Israel much earlier than Arabs. If you go back far enough we're all from Africa and native Americans aren't native Americans as they crossed from Siberia. 

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

I don't think that Gazans want Israel to rebuild anything. They would prefer to rely on international assistance.  They know it would just mean more illegal Israeli settlements.

There were none in Gaza.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

There were none in Gaza.

 

I know. There are plenty in the West Bank. That's what Palestinians don't want to see in Gaza.

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

I don't think that Gazans want Israel to rebuild anything. They would prefer to rely on international assistance.  They know it would just mean more illegal Israeli settlements. If Israel was in charge of rebuilding then it would be planned by Israelis instead of Palestinians and Israeli construction companies would benefit from any international financial assistance, instead of Palestinian construction companies.

 

I don't think that Gazans want Israel to rebuild anything. 

 

Then they are in luck aren't they:

 

Israel Is Counting on Middle East Neighbors to Help Rebuild Gaza

https://archive.ph/5e2Wo

 

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

I know. There are plenty in the West Bank. That's what Palestinians don't want to see in Gaza.

Israel abandoned settlements in Gaza before.

 

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

I don't think that Gazans want Israel to rebuild anything. 

 

Then they are in luck aren't they:

 

Israel Is Counting on Middle East Neighbors to Help Rebuild Gaza

https://archive.ph/5e2Wo

 

 

Translation: Israel doesn't want to contribute a shekel.