1 hour ago, eumenades said:

I'm inclined to agree. Over the years, I was starting to get stoned but not getting high any more, so I stopped. It became pointless. The brain changes colour over decades. I reckon you get 'brilliant experiences' when young on cannabis, but not when you are older. 

Don't think it's age dependent. It comes down to dosing and frequency. I used it when I was young and didn't enjoy it. Started using it again when I got older. Now that the brain is more developed, I understand it better and enjoy it a lot. 

On 3/23/2024 at 9:16 PM, Dolf said:

So he finally grew up. Weed is for young people.

Weed is for anyone who wants to use it and feels they get some benefit from it. Those who don't enjoy it, or feel that it doesn't add anything positive to their life should stay away from it. Drinking alcohol and smoking tobacco kills, thus all people of all ages should stay away from those two things entirely. 

On 3/24/2024 at 7:30 AM, wombat said:

On weed?

Impossible....

Er...what strain was he smoking?😊🤣

Gotta be that super powerful 10 baht per gram stuff. 😉

I gave up for a while and the first thing I noticed was how relaxed my parents were suddenly knowing I wouldnt be coming to murder them every week for weed money.  Sex is almost boring,  the local Pizza Galor and Munchies-R-Us suddenly went broke, my Friday nights became drunken beatings on the wife instead of relaxing in the back yard over a banana milkshake and a lentil salad while listening to Cat Stevens.  I only lasted 4 hours before rescuing my pipe from the garbo's.

 

Now I think its making me paranoid.  I keep worrying hour long we are going to have to bear the fabricated unfounded nonsense that some polital parties spout in the form of propaganda to suit their own agenda.  We did all this in the 60's with Reefer Madness and learnt it was nothing but blatant bulldust.  We should also have learned from that history (again) not to listen to the garbage but rather  use our own judgement and experience to guide us.  Now "Mum, Dad, where did I put the axe?"

5 hours ago, 1sickpuppy said:

ive smoked since age 14 63 now

 

5 hours ago, 1sickpuppy said:

anybody who smokes anything has half a brain

 

I appreciate your honesty.

43 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said:

I gave up for a while and the first thing I noticed was how relaxed my parents were suddenly knowing I wouldnt be coming to murder them every week for weed money.  Sex is almost boring,  the local Pizza Galor and Munchies-R-Us suddenly went broke, my Friday nights became drunken beatings on the wife instead of relaxing in the back yard over a banana milkshake and a lentil salad while listening to Cat Stevens.  I only lasted 4 hours before rescuing my pipe from the garbo's.

 

Now I think its making me paranoid.  I keep worrying hour long we are going to have to bear the fabricated unfounded nonsense that some polital parties spout in the form of propaganda to suit their own agenda.  We did all this in the 60's with Reefer Madness and learnt it was nothing but blatant bulldust.  We should also have learned from that history (again) not to listen to the garbage but rather  use our own judgement and experience to guide us.  Now "Mum, Dad, where did I put the axe?"

Turn off CNN and turn on some Steely Dan and you'll be right as rain again. 

On 3/23/2024 at 9:54 PM, save the frogs said:

That video came in my feeds on Youtube recently, but never watched it.

 

The thing is ... why does the human brain have cannabinoid receptors? Some people argue it's because humans have been taking cannabis for 10,000 years. 

But I wonder if there might be another more complex explanation beyond our understanding. 

 

 

 

On 3/23/2024 at 9:54 PM, save the frogs said:

That video came in my feeds on Youtube recently, but never watched it.

 

The thing is ... why does the human brain have cannabinoid receptors? Some people argue it's because humans have been taking cannabis for 10,000 years. 

But I wonder if there might be another more complex explanation beyond our understanding. 

 

 

 

We also have nicotine receptors in our body.

7 hours ago, Red Forever said:

Good on ya man!

This ain't gonna go down well with the smug weed fans.

Yes this! Because every story you hear from a rando is universally applicable - I'm stopping today, I've never, ever heard a story which so totally destroyed my smugness. 😎

He gave up weed and now smokes hash, it's far better than crappy weed!

8 hours ago, HugoFastor said:

No amount of alcohol — not even 1 glass of wine — is safe, global study says:

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/4406827/no-amount-of-alcohol-safe-study/

 

Global Studies attract people stupid enough to let themselves be experimented on for a small amount of money - nuff said.

 

OP - Hey George - good to see the rumors of your demise are untrue.

 

On The Topic - My older brother gave me my first joint for my 12th birthday and have partaken ever since (64 now) The things he describes in the video existed before he ever found weed - genetics, poor parenting, low self-esteem.

Personally, I've always found getting high a useful escape from the horrors of reality, even for the short periods it lasts for. Later added alcohol to extend the escape. Used to sleep like a baby after a few beers and a couple of qualudes.

Time, society and laws made by people who shouldn't be making laws slowed my consumption levels but weed sure made it easier to tolerate stupidity.

Since quitting everything but cigarettes I find I smoke twice as much, mostly because it requires moving away from people to partake.

 

On a side note, it would be nice to see a thread where opinions are stated w/o a personal bash against any who differ: "I think this so others who don't are ...." as opposed to: "I think this, what do you think?"

He should have vaporized dry herb instead and he wouldn't caused lung problems.
I traveled for an extended period and didn't use any cannabis for four months and the only difference I noticed was that I'd remember my dreams. I didn't consider that a benefit. The most dangerous side effect of using cannabis are the laws.

I'll bet he'll start up again, like my man, Snoop Dog!!!

Quitting is easy, he's done it hundreds of times......

 

Maybe I'll quite in 20 years. Eh, make it 40.

it's just a monetized YouTube video.

Ironically, I started weed again after 20 years (stopped at 16 and started again at 35).

 

It's really helping me with my clinic depression and PTSD especially when it comes to creativity and planning my days. I feel much more focused and helps me gets sh*t done.

 

However, it does sometimes add a little bit of anxiety but I've been having health anxiety since I was like 6-7 years so this is nothing new.

 

Also it is important to note that all strains are different and hits differently so while I do feel like it's helping this is not applicable for ALL the strains but only a selective few.s.

 

 

1 hour ago, shocky2012 said:

Also it is important to note that all strains are different and hits differently so while I do feel like it's helping this is not applicable for ALL the strains but only a selective few.s.

Personally, I never really bought into any of this. To me it all seems just like marketing intended to get people more excited about buying weed. It sounds great, but it doesn't make a lot of sense. THC is THC. The only thing that really makes a difference to me is the dosing. 
 

Anyway, to back up my claims, I did lots of experiments with different so-called strains that are supposed to do this or that. I did lots of mixing of strains together too. And the outcome of the feeling was always the same from all of them. 
 

There were times where I used one strain and I might've felt one way and then used that same strain a different day and felt differently. And that would make no sense if there really is a difference in each strain. It can't make you feel one way one day and a different way another day if the strains are expected to do one specific thing. So, my conclusion was that the reason I felt differently on different days from the same strain comes down to dosing and perhaps my own mental and emotional state at the time. 
 

At this point, I choose weed based on how it looks, how it smells, how it feels in my hand, and if it seems like it likely has a high level of THC. I pay no attention to the cool names or whatever claims are being made about the type of strain it is. 
 

To each his own though. If people want to buy into the hype, and to believe there is some difference (other than look, feel and smell) then that's fine with me. It might have some placebo effect on how people feel from the weed if they convince themselves it's one way or another. I just don't let any of it influence my choices when I choose what to buy though. 
 

Also, I think the anxiety that you mention can occur from your mental state when you use it. If you are very relaxed when you use it, then you probably won't feel any anxiety from the cannabis. If you've got something on your mind that's bothering you, and then you use cannabis, you might feel some added anxiety because of that. The other thing for me is that I notice cannabis often increases my heart rate for the first 15-20 minutes. Heart rate is also the brain's automatic reaction to situations of fear or paranoia. So when your heart rate unexpectedly goes up, it may be the subconscious mind associating that with and creating unexpected anxiety. That's just my theory, but it seems to make some logical sense. 

potheads getting triggered 

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

potheads getting triggered 

By what? He still smokes, garbage video...

4 hours ago, ABCDBKK said:

Personally, I never really bought into any of this. To me it all seems just like marketing intended to get people more excited about buying weed. It sounds great, but it doesn't make a lot of sense. THC is THC. The only thing that really makes a difference to me is the dosing. 
 

Anyway, to back up my claims, I did lots of experiments with different so-called strains that are supposed to do this or that. I did lots of mixing of strains together too. And the outcome of the feeling was always the same from all of them. 
 

There were times where I used one strain and I might've felt one way and then used that same strain a different day and felt differently. And that would make no sense if there really is a difference in each strain. It can't make you feel one way one day and a different way another day if the strains are expected to do one specific thing. So, my conclusion was that the reason I felt differently on different days from the same strain comes down to dosing and perhaps my own mental and emotional state at the time. 
 

At this point, I choose weed based on how it looks, how it smells, how it feels in my hand, and if it seems like it likely has a high level of THC. I pay no attention to the cool names or whatever claims are being made about the type of strain it is. 
 

To each his own though. If people want to buy into the hype, and to believe there is some difference (other than look, feel and smell) then that's fine with me. It might have some placebo effect on how people feel from the weed if they convince themselves it's one way or another. I just don't let any of it influence my choices when I choose what to buy though. 
 

Also, I think the anxiety that you mention can occur from your mental state when you use it. If you are very relaxed when you use it, then you probably won't feel any anxiety from the cannabis. If you've got something on your mind that's bothering you, and then you use cannabis, you might feel some added anxiety because of that. The other thing for me is that I notice cannabis often increases my heart rate for the first 15-20 minutes. Heart rate is also the brain's automatic reaction to situations of fear or paranoia. So when your heart rate unexpectedly goes up, it may be the subconscious mind associating that with and creating unexpected anxiety. That's just my theory, but it seems to make some logical sense. 

You do make some good points, especially regarding the high heart rate shortly after consuming cannabis. Actually, part of my PTSD involves cardiophobia, which I developed 20 years ago. I've always had some form of health anxiety, but cardiophobia has always been the most prominent.
 

Then, in 2014, I developed heart arrhythmia (benign - just random ectopics, skipped heart beats), which increased my anxiety significantly. After undergoing tests and discovering that there's nothing wrong with my heart and it's all in the mind, that's when I started making serious efforts to understand this condition and how it can truly impact someone's way of thinking.
 

For that reason, I definitely notice a difference in how I feel depending on the strains. For some unknown reason, certain strains make my heart race, while others don't affect it at all.

 

46 minutes ago, shocky2012 said:

You do make some good points, especially regarding the high heart rate shortly after consuming cannabis. Actually, part of my PTSD involves cardiophobia, which I developed 20 years ago. I've always had some form of health anxiety, but cardiophobia has always been the most prominent.
 

Then, in 2014, I developed heart arrhythmia (benign - just random ectopics, skipped heart beats), which increased my anxiety significantly. After undergoing tests and discovering that there's nothing wrong with my heart and it's all in the mind, that's when I started making serious efforts to understand this condition and how it can truly impact someone's way of thinking.
 

For that reason, I definitely notice a difference in how I feel depending on the strains. For some unknown reason, certain strains make my heart race, while others don't affect it at all.

Sorry to hear about your anxiety issues. THC it's a psychoactive chemical, which can however can still be controlled by the brain. There have been times where I was high and I needed to straighten up and my brain just took over and suddenly I didn't feel high anymore. So based on that, I suggest before you use cannabis you tell yourself that you're gonna go on a little trip now, that you're gonna have a good time and push any thoughts about anxiety out of your mind. I think that could work for you.

 

The increased heart rate issue though seems to be a function of the chemical. I don't think it's psychosomatic. But I don't know why it happens only sometimes and not others. Maybe it happens all the time, but there are times when we are feeling good from the cannabis and we don't notice it. I don't believe it strain dependent though. Think that's some sort of placebo effect where you pre-programmed yourself to think that one strain will do one thing and another strain will do another.
 

I suggest you try to take two strains that you think give you anxiety and take two strains that you feel don't give you anxiety. Then consume all four of them on different occasions blindly so that you don't know which one you're using. And make notes each time about how you felt. Maybe have a friend help you with this to make it easy. Then only check at the end of the four day or four session test period which ones you consumed on each occasion. I assume you're going to be surprised at the results. 

On 3/25/2024 at 11:26 AM, HugoFastor said:

No amount of alcohol — not even 1 glass of wine — is safe, global study says:

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/4406827/no-amount-of-alcohol-safe-study/

 

But it is a good crude pain killer and turns u into instant idiot

On 3/26/2024 at 1:11 AM, Guitar God said:

He should have vaporized dry herb instead and he wouldn't caused lung problems.
I traveled for an extended period and didn't use any cannabis for four months and the only difference I noticed was that I'd remember my dreams. I didn't consider that a benefit. The most dangerous side effect of using cannabis are the laws.

still not great for lungs though

On 3/23/2024 at 9:54 PM, save the frogs said:

That video came in my feeds on Youtube recently, but never watched it.

 

The thing is ... why does the human brain have cannabinoid receptors? Some people argue it's because humans have been taking cannabis for 10,000 years. 

But I wonder if there might be another more complex explanation beyond our understanding. 

 

 

 

I reckon there is a big difference between using it whilst young and when you are older. The brain gets 'weedproofed' and one is stoned but no longer high. I have mostly stopped - due to boredom. (Surely a sign I am gravitating to other things! Whargh!)

If logic and reason were used by lawmakers then it means at least cannabis should be classified the same as alcohol or even much better.

 

People should demand NO alcohol for recreational use

I believe that cannabis smoke contains around 3 times the tar of tobacco smoke, but one difference being is that pot smokers don't tend to smoke 20 or 30 joints per day. Nothing that we smoke is likely to be good for us.

10 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

I believe that cannabis smoke contains around 3 times the tar of tobacco smoke, but one difference being is that pot smokers don't tend to smoke 20 or 30 joints per day. Nothing that we smoke is likely to be good for us.

Comparing cannabis to tobacco, is a bit of a stretch, especially with the known health hazards of tobacco.   Doesn't mean smoking cannabis isn't unhealthy.

 

But compared to tobacco ... 

On 3/24/2024 at 12:31 AM, ABCDBKK said:

It all comes down to moderation. The people who tell these stories of how it badly harmed their life are typically using too much of it and too frequently to where they are in a fog and it overtakes their daily life. People who use cannabis in small amounts, say after the day is done, rarely report these sorts of problems. It's like anything in life. Even too much of a good thing isn't healthy. We all need food to survive, but too much and it and too often can lead to obesity, various chronic diseases and even death. 

 

I wouldn't say the same for alcohol and cigarettes though because studies have shown, even in small amounts, they both can still be very harmful. But then some people drink and smoke cigarettes their whole life and still live happily and to a fairly old age. 

 

To each his own though. If this guy felt that cannabis was harming his life then it's good that he quit. But one size doesn't fit all. And to me, this type of information is purely anecdotal. I don't have the sorts of problems he seemed to have with it, and so I wouldn't be interested enough to watch his video. 

From the medical view he's right.

But that wouldn't matter to addicts.🙏

On 4/1/2024 at 12:02 PM, 1sickpuppy said:

still not great for lungs though

I have to disagree. I was a cigarette/joint smoker and gave up smoking cigarettes 10 years ago and have vaped weed ever since. I have no problem with my lungs which feel perfectly healthy unlike when I was a smoker. I don't believe weed vaping is harmful to the lungs. It's not like tobacco vaping where people are consuming nicotine and harmful chemicals.