Social Media Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 The implementation of the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act 2021 has led to a surge in complaints received by Police Scotland, with nearly 4,000 complaints reported in the first 48 hours of the law coming into effect. It is reported that a complaint against the Act was received approximately every two minutes during this period. Calum Steele, the former general secretary of the Scottish Police Federation, indicated that the number of complaints could have reached as high as 3,800. He noted that "more than half" of these complaints have not yet been processed. The Hate Crime and Public Order Act 2021 criminalizes derogatory comments based on disability, religion, sexual orientation, transgender identity, intersex status, race, color, nationality, or ethnicity. This law extends existing legislation and has been met with both support and opposition. Approximately 300 protesters gathered outside the Scottish Parliament to demonstrate against the legislation, expressing concerns about freedom of speech and indicating they were "prepared to be jailed." Some critics, including high-profile figures like Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, Elon Musk, and Joe Rogan, have objected to the legislation, arguing that it is unclear and unnecessary. Humza Yousaf, the Scottish Government minister responsible for the legislation, defended the law, stating that it provides robust protection against the rising tide of hatred. However, he faced criticism from certain quarters, including author JK Rowling, who expressed concerns about the impact of the legislation on freedom of expression. JK Rowling's comments on social media were reviewed by police, but they were determined not to be criminal, and no further action was taken against her. However, it remains unclear whether her comments could have been recorded by police as non-crime hate incidents, as this is considered an operational matter for Police Scotland. 04.04.24 Source 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skipalongcassidy Posted April 3 Popular Post Share Posted April 3 It's scotlands version of sharia law brought to you by scotland's own muslim minister... go figure. 6 1 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Denim Posted April 3 Popular Post Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Social Media said: The Hate Crime and Public Order Act 2021 criminalizes derogatory comments based on disability, religion, sexual orientation, transgender identity, intersex status, race, color, nationality, or ethnicity. This law extends existing legislation and has been So if I go to Scotland anyone can still call me a bald barsteward and get away with it Scott free ? So unfair. I am truly miffed as I know other slap heads will be. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Denim said: So if I go to Scotland anyone can still call me a bald barsteward and get away with it Scott free ? So unfair. I am truly miffed as I know other slap heads will be. If you are a white slap head, either implied or spoken yes! Edited April 4 by herfiehandbag 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, Denim said: So if I go to Scotland anyone can still call me a bald barsteward and get away with it Scott free ? So unfair. I am truly miffed as I know other slap heads will be. I don't see anything about hair loss, weight, age or illegitimacy in there. So calling someone a fat, old, bald barsteward should be fine. Especially if you are [screws up face into a contorted angry expression] WHITE as Yousaf loves to snarl from his soap box. Good to see the police being kept busy with this, it's not like they have any violence or drink/drug issues in Scotland. What a joke Scotland has become under the SNP. Devolved powers don't seem like such a great idea now if they are going to be used for tyrannical purposes like this. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said: It's scotlands version of sharia law brought to you by scotland's own muslim minister... go figure. That’s an odd string of things to stitch into a post. I wonder what brought it on?! 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RuamRudy Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 3 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Devolved powers don't seem like such a great idea now if they are going to be used for tyrannical purposes like this. That reads a bit colonial - sort of like the natives can't be trusted not to pass laws their betters disapprove of. The bill received cross party support when it passed in 2021. This is not a single party imposed law. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 'More complaints' were made about First Minister Humza Yousaf and his 2020 speech about 'often being the only non-white person in the room' than JK Rowling 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 5 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: That reads a bit colonial - sort of like the natives can't be trusted not to pass laws their betters disapprove of. The bill received cross party support when it passed in 2021. This is not a single party imposed law. Well, left to their own devices they do seem to be becoming somewhat tyrannical. Just an observation. How the SNP got such horrible legislation over the line is irrelevant. We all know what type of deals can be done, Sturgeon showed us that. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 5 minutes ago, JonnyF said: How the SNP got such horrible legislation over the line is irrelevant. We all know what type of deals can be done, Sturgeon showed us that. It's called politics, but fortunately it's nothing like as bad as the cronyism and corruption that saturates English politics and, subsequently, pollutes the rest of the UK. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 7 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: It's called politics, but fortunately it's nothing like as bad as the cronyism and corruption that saturates English politics and, subsequently, pollutes the rest of the UK. Whataboutism. This is about Yousaf's hate bill. I just logged an incident on their website about Yousaf's racist speech. I hope they get back to me swiftly. 1 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soi3eddie Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 (edited) Why does Humza Yousef have such anger against white people? This minister so clearly expressing racist tendancies. Edited April 4 by CharlieH social media link removed. 1 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, soi3eddie said: Why does Humza Yousef have such anger against white people? This minister so clearly expressing racist tendancies. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=185423522849403 Perhaps now he is in a position of authority, he can now show his true colours........ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 7 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Whataboutism. This is about Yousaf's hate bill. I just logged an incident on their website about Yousaf's racist speech. I hope they get back to me swiftly. Why would you do that? I presume that you know that the law is not retroactive so you know that your complaint is going to waste limited police resources? Why waste police time then boast about it? 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 23 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: It's called politics, but fortunately it's nothing like as bad as the cronyism and corruption that saturates English politics and, subsequently, pollutes the rest of the UK. Whataboutery and a cop out! Hateful speech! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 13 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: Why would you do that? I presume that you know that the law is not retroactive so you know that your complaint is going to waste limited police resources? Why waste police time then boast about it? The police used a lot of resources regarding your previous dodgy leader...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RuamRudy Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 11 minutes ago, transam said: The police used a lot of resources regarding your previous dodgy leader...... And yet not a single charge resulting from it. Could it be that it's possible for all laws to be abused thus? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 32 minutes ago, soi3eddie said: Why does Humza Yousef have such anger against white people? This minister so clearly expressing racist tendancies. Why do you think the legislation is solely focussed on "white people"? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, RuamRudy said: And yet not a single charge resulting from it. Could it be that it's possible for all laws to be abused thus? Yet, and very strange she is hiding out of the way, eh......🤭 Now you have a leader that has a problem with "white" people, how embarrassing for you Scots...........😂 And the bloke is trying to break up the UK, whodaguessed...............🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 4 minutes ago, simple1 said: Why do you think the legislation is solely focussed on "white people"? Perhaps because the leader, ain't.................😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 40 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: Why would you do that? I presume that you know that the law is not retroactive so you know that your complaint is going to waste limited police resources? Why waste police time then boast about it? I am not wasting police time. I found his speech extremely offensive and I would like action taken against him. If they cannot take legal action because the crime took place before the law, perhaps they will put a non crime hate incident on his record instead. Either way, I am entitled to report it. He is not exempt from the consequences of his hateful, racist speech. 1 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Just now, JonnyF said: I am not wasting police time. I found his speech extremely offensive and I would like action taken against him. If they cannot take legal action because the crime took place before the law, perhaps they will put a non crime hate incident on his record instead. Either way, I am entitled to report it. He is not exempt from the consequences of his hateful, racist speech. I have absolutely no doubt you haven’t wasted any police time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 (edited) 18 minutes ago, simple1 said: Why do you think the legislation is solely focussed on "white people"? I dunno, his racist anti white/whaite speech perhaps? Edited April 4 by Wobblybob Spelling 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 4 hours ago, Social Media said: The Hate Crime and Public Order Act 2021 criminalizes derogatory comments based on disability, religion, sexual orientation, transgender identity, intersex status, race, color, nationality, or ethnicity. This law extends existing legislation and has been met with both support and opposition. I don't even know what 'intersex status' means! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: I have absolutely no doubt you haven’t wasted any police time. Yes I very much doubt they are going to investigate reports against a Muslim, son of Pakistani immigrants who happens to be the first minister making a racist speech against white people. This law clearly isn't designed for that type of racism. However, the vague nature and selective enforcement of this law is no reason for me not to report racism when I see or hear it. They are encouraging people to report hate speech. I obliged. The hate monster appears to have attacked Yousaf as I included in my report. 1 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, JonnyF said: Yes I very much doubt they are going to investigate reports against a Muslim, son of Pakistani immigrants who happens to be the first minister making a racist speech against white people. This law clearly isn't designed for that type of racism. However, the vague nature and selective enforcement of this law is no reason for me not to report racism when I see or hear it. They are encouraging people to report hate speech. I obliged. The hate monster appears to have attacked Yousaf as I included in my report. You auto-stroking your self nurtured conspiracy grievances wasn’t what I had in mind. But thanks for the insights. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Henryford Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 I hate Humza, are they going to arrest me? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: You auto-stroking your self nurtured conspiracy grievances wasn’t what I had in mind. But thanks for the insights. It's not a conspiracy. The speech is on YouTube. I already posted it here. The guidelines for what constitues hate speech are on the police website. The speech falls within that. They want people to report it, so I did. Where is the conspiracy? 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 It seems like a lot of people perceive this as a law that makes it a crime to say something they don't like about a group that they support. It's kind of inevitable that the police are going to be flooded with complaints. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 9 minutes ago, JonnyF said: It's not a conspiracy. The speech is on YouTube. I already posted it here. The guidelines for what constitues hate speech are on the police website. The speech falls within that. They want people to report it, so I did. Where is the conspiracy? Conspiracy! 15 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Yes I very much doubt they are going to investigate reports against a Muslim, son of Pakistani immigrants who happens to be the first minister making a racist speech against white people. This law clearly isn't designed for that type of racism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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