My toilet seat cracked in-two last week: Am I too heavy?

[save the frogs]

4 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Let us just hope that it is not too late to save the frogs, Sir.

(NOT joking, either.  But, unfortunately, I believe it might be too late, now.  SAD, really.)

 

Anyway, I am one who follows people like Tim Lenton, and for good reason.

 

These are just thoughts I think while on the hopper, of course.

 

 

In case you might not know....

Tim is very well known in his field.

 

Exeter

 

 

 

 

 

So you're a deep and profound individual who also likes to shoot the sh*t occasionally ?

 

 

[fredwiggy]

10 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

PLEASE.....Forget about Stainless Steel!

 

After a bit of research..... I think....

 

COPPER bung seats are the thing for me!

 

Also, as we ALL know.....

 

Copper is anti-microbial, too!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

If I order now...I can get free shipping, as Mr. C. recommended.

 

And, I will be able to use this copper seat by April 29.....IF....

 

I can find some way to remove the screws holding in place my old lousy garbage toilet seat.

 

 

You're going to spend $599 USD for a copper toilet instead of removing the old toilet (not too hard) and just buying a new one ? You can get a real nice one for around $100 USD at Home Pro, spend more and get a little better. Here's one.........https://www.homepro.co.th/p/1147131?lang=th&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2qCqsduphQMVxqlmAh2J_gZrEAYYBSABEgLRHPD_BwE

Edited April 4 by fredwiggy

[GammaGlobulin]

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

You're going to spend $599 USD for a copper toilet instead of removing the old toilet (not too hard) and just buying a new one ? You can get a real nice one for around $100 USD at Home Pro

 

OK.

Thank you.

 

But, you must admit....

 

Sitting on a copper seat might be beautiful.

 

Also....

 

IF I must pay USD100 for a decent toilet seat from HomePro....then....

 

I will DEFINITELY buy from Amazon, and have it sent here, even if I must pay the import tax.

 

I will NO LONGER support local retailers that sell garbage.

 

My new policy....

 

 

[KannikaP]

13 hours ago, transam said:

I never posted what you are replying too....🤔

Sorry, things can get mixed up a bit when lengthy posts get re-quoted. And he's already tried WD40. 

[herfiehandbag]

There are nowadays more medically sophisticated procedures for assessing if ones BMI is too high!

 

There is however an air of simple finality with this method...

Edited April 5 by herfiehandbag

[CharlesHolzhauer]

13 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

even though I have a new toilet-seat replacement

You might consider investing in one of those SMART toilet seats made in Lesotho. Rumor has it that if they crack due to weight issues, they miraculously fix themselves after a healthy, weighty dump into the toilet bowl.

[GammaGlobulin]

14 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

Sorry, things can get mixed up a bit when lengthy posts get re-quoted. And he's already tried WD40. 

 

Anyway....

 

WD40, several doses, was tried, without success.

Therefore, either use a hacksaw to cut off the head of the screw, or use a drill.

In my case, the only option seems to be a drill.

There is no room for a small hacksaw.

 

The most important point is to use some solution which will not fracture the porcelain of the toilet, which is one of my concerns.

 

I was hoping for a better solution, though....

 

 

Edited April 5 by GammaGlobulin

[sometimewoodworker]

39 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

WD40, several doses, was tried, without success.

Therefore, either use a hacksaw to cut off the head of the screw, or use a drill.

In my case, the only option seems to be a drill.

There is no room for a small hacksaw.

If you have good motor control then gripping the underside nut with mole grips to stop it moving in the hole then using an angle grinder to very carefully cut the head of the bolt off but leaving a fraction of a millimetre is going to be a far better idea than trying to use a hacksaw

[GammaGlobulin]

2 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

If you have good motor control then gripping the underside nut with mole grips to stop it moving in the hole then using an angle grinder to very carefully cut the head of the bolt off but leaving a fraction of a millimetre is going to be a far better idea than trying to use a hacksaw

 

It's either that or just drill through the head of the screw, which might be a safer option, not to crack the porcelain....maybe...

 

The screw head seems to be of some sort of cheap brass, or something...

 

American Standard crappola, produced about 30 years ago, i would imagine.

 

Not a bad toilet.

Just that the brass fittings are corroded, which should not happen.

 

Totally fused, is the screw.

 

 

 

 

[Lacessit]

IMO the OP needs more patience with his screws. Good things take time.

Keep applying WD40.

Also consider the coefficient of expansion of brass, which is about 60% more than steel. If the screws can be subjected to ice cubes, they may shrink sufficiently to be extracted normally.

Brass is corroded by anything with an ammoniacal or acid content, perhaps a check of your aim with Number One's is warranted.

Edited April 5 by Lacessit

[GammaGlobulin]

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

IMO the OP needs more patience with his screws. Good things take time.

Keep applying WD40.

Also consider the coefficient of expansion of brass, which is about 60% more than steel. If the screws can be subjected to ice cubes, they may shrink sufficiently to be extracted normally.

Brass is corroded by anything with an ammoniacal or acid content, perhaps a check of your aim with Number One's is warranted.

 

 

Obviously, the guys that used this toilet before me had very acidic piss, probably.

 

That is alliteration, something you say that AI is incapable of, though I disaagree.

 

 

[connda]

[brianthainess]

15 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

It's so easy to get one's balls caught when standing up.

 

Had that happen with cheap plastic chairs that are split, now I carefully check chairs before I sit down, and I'm not fat by any means.

[GammaGlobulin]

6 minutes ago, connda said:

 

I saw this happen in Singapore, the first time.

 

1971, and in the Malacca Strait.

 

Some native stood on the toilet seat, instead of sitting on it.

 

I was completely nonplussed by her antics.

 

Anyway....

When in Rome.....

 

-------------

 

At least they knew where to wash their feet....of course.....

 

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

9 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

Had that happen with cheap plastic chairs that are split, now I carefully check chairs before I sit down, and I'm not fat by any means.

 

Poor quality plastics.

 

Yes.

 

Be careful, even if you might be of normal weight.

 

 

[sirineou]

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My toilet seat cracked in-two last week: Am I too heavy?

No!! you need to stop buying cheap s hi t 

[GammaGlobulin]

Just now, sirineou said:

No!! you need to stop buying cheap s hi t 

 

Agree...

 

100 Percent.

 

I will not buy from Thailand retailers, in the future.

 

I can buy from Japan, and I want to.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Big Time!

 

 

[sirineou]

39 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Agree...

 

100 Percent.

 

I will not buy from Thailand retailers, in the future.

 

I can buy from Japan, and I want to.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Big Time!

 

 

The problem in Thailand is that import and retail , are concerned with a price point that is affordable to the majority of their marker, so consequently thy import and stock cheap merchandise.  

[sometimewoodworker]

1 hour ago, sirineou said:

The problem in Thailand is that import and retail , are concerned with a price point that is affordable to the majority of their marker, so consequently thy import and stock cheap merchandise.  

You can find quality products here, they cost as much or more than an equivalent foreign sourced product as the market is small for the expensive items. The problem is finding where to get them

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

 

Obviously, the guys that used this toilet before me had very acidic piss, probably.

 

That is alliteration, something you say that AI is incapable of, though I disaagree.

 

 

We all produce urea and uric acid, as breakdown products of proteins and purines respectively.

 

AI is only as good as the information it assimilates from human input.

[Andyfez]

Some years ago I had 3 break in quick succession.

Turned out a member of the family was standing on the seat and squatting.........

[soalbundy]

On 4/4/2024 at 6:35 PM, GammaGlobulin said:

I know.....

 

How can a toilet seat crack in half?

This has never happened to me before.

Could be dangerous, even, if a brittle plastic shard from a cracked toilet seat cut my privates.

 

Is this just a case of cheap plastics OF Yore?; about 35 years ago?

 

Or, are the tiny toilet seats designed for Tiny Thais just poorly designed, now that we know that Thais are becoming heavier, by the year?

 

FYI:  I have seen PLENTY of Thais who are double my weight.  And so, I think that toilet seats should be designed to withstand at least 200 Kilos to accommodate the commodes of Heavy Thais.

 

Obviously, this is a perfect case of inferior plastics being used 35 years ago.

 

NOW:  Here is my problem....

 

The lousy garbage toilet seat is held in place by some metal screws, instead of what is now used...the plastic screws and bolts, which are easy to remove.

 

And, now, even though I have a new toilet-seat replacement, I cannot remove the old lousy garbage toilet seat.

 

I have unscrewed the right-side bolt, but the left-side bolt is completely locked, frozen, and corroded.

 

This is very unnerving.  

 

And, there are even Blogs discussing the stupidity of using metal screws to hold the toilet seat in place.

 

As you know, where there is water, then there is bound to be corrosion.

 

So....HOW do I remove these lousy garbage screws holding the garbage plastic toilet seat in place.

If I cannot remove them....

Then, I cannot replace the toilet seat, and sit upon it.

 

 

Here is what I mean:

 

 

 

 

I have no drill, at the moment.

If I HAD a drill, then I would drill down through the head of the screw,.....

OBVIOUSLY....

 

Tks for any advice.

 

I do not want to take a sledge to the toilet.

I am trying to not waste money, by destroying the toilet with....

 

ONE FELL SWOOP of the sledge.....

 

 

 

Fat bastard.

[Bangkok Barry]

If it was made in the Wesat, yes.

If it was made in China or Thailand, no.

[cowellandrew]

Where is the seat?

Edited April 6 by cowellandrew

[newbee2022]

On 4/4/2024 at 6:35 PM, GammaGlobulin said:

I know.....

 

How can a toilet seat crack in half?

This has never happened to me before.

Could be dangerous, even, if a brittle plastic shard from a cracked toilet seat cut my privates.

 

Is this just a case of cheap plastics OF Yore?; about 35 years ago?

 

Or, are the tiny toilet seats designed for Tiny Thais just poorly designed, now that we know that Thais are becoming heavier, by the year?

 

FYI:  I have seen PLENTY of Thais who are double my weight.  And so, I think that toilet seats should be designed to withstand at least 200 Kilos to accommodate the commodes of Heavy Thais.

 

Obviously, this is a perfect case of inferior plastics being used 35 years ago.

 

NOW:  Here is my problem....

 

The lousy garbage toilet seat is held in place by some metal screws, instead of what is now used...the plastic screws and bolts, which are easy to remove.

 

And, now, even though I have a new toilet-seat replacement, I cannot remove the old lousy garbage toilet seat.

 

I have unscrewed the right-side bolt, but the left-side bolt is completely locked, frozen, and corroded.

 

This is very unnerving.  

 

And, there are even Blogs discussing the stupidity of using metal screws to hold the toilet seat in place.

 

As you know, where there is water, then there is bound to be corrosion.

 

So....HOW do I remove these lousy garbage screws holding the garbage plastic toilet seat in place.

If I cannot remove them....

Then, I cannot replace the toilet seat, and sit upon it.

 

 

Here is what I mean:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have no drill, at the moment.

If I HAD a drill, then I would drill down through the head of the screw,.....

OBVIOUSLY....

 

Tks for any advice.

 

I do not want to take a sledge to the toilet.

I am trying to not waste money, by destroying the toilet with....

 

ONE FELL SWOOP of the sledge.....

 

 

 

2 explanations:

1. Too much weight 

2. Poor quality. You know the saying: if you buy cheap you get cheap.🙏

[ujayujay]

This will solve your Problem.....

[Bundooman]

No, its probably made in China.

Inferior goods!

 

 

[chilly07]

Get a wooden seat-plastic deteriorates in this heat and humidity 

Best to replace whole toilet if bolts corroded 

Edited April 6 by chilly07
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[xtrnuno41]

I dont know if there is for sale in shops, but maybe chloride acid 30%. Be careful with, it is white vaping and can effect your lungs, dont inhale.

Also dont get get it on your skin, clothes, it can make burn marks. Of course it needs some time.

As the seat is also already broken, try to saw the plastic away around the screws, so more space for any liquid to treat the corrosion.

Or just keep on sawing then?!

Of course a grinder would be THE handy tool and do the job.

 

Also remind, every time you have such a thing to screw, especially around water, use some grease, like vaseline !

You will feel happy in future when you have to disconnect again. It doesnt have to be much.

If you have the vaseline, you can also use it on wounds, it helps the healing proces.

 

It cracked, can happen, maybe support (rubbers) didnt work anymore. Or long ago not fitted right, eventually breaking.

Edited April 6 by xtrnuno41

[ignore it]

You should clean your toilet more thoroughly.

Eat more fiber to keep your time on the seat shorter.