Only one in four British Muslims believe Hamas committed murder and rape in Israel, report

[Bkk Brian]

So if Hamas carries out a few murder rampages in Europe or the UK will these Muslims believe it then? Or only disbelieve it because it happened in Israel?

 

Bulgarian Police Find Stash Of Weapons Linked To Hamas

Bulgarian police have uncovered a stash of weapons linked to four suspected Hamas members arrested in Germany and the Netherlands in December, according to German media reports and AFP sources.

Three suspected members of the Palestinian militant group were arrested in Germany on December 14 on suspicion of making preparations for an attack against Jewish targets in Europe.

A fourth suspect was arrested in the Netherlands.

German prosecutors said the four men had been gathering weapons to be "kept in a state of readiness in view of potential terrorist attacks against Jewish institutions in Europe".

https://www.barrons.com/news/bulgarian-police-find-stash-of-weapons-linked-to-hamas-91c18ce7

[Hummin]

25 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

They are horrific terror attacks deliberately murdering innocent civilians, children, women and men. Period. 

Yes they are, but still you turn a blind eye to the other side! 

 

Period

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Yes they are, but still you turn a blind eye to the other side! 

 

Period

Who do you think you are to tell me what I do or do not do? I do know that your constant superiority complex thinking you're the only one that looks on the other side is pure ignorance.

 

The fact is that a terrorist massacre is just that and there is no justification no matter what the previous grievances if any. Mostly however they are carried out on innocent people with intent. NO justification.

 

Period

[Eloquent pilgrim]

9 hours ago, Brickleberry said:

erm... what?

 

You replied to someone saying “I know...lol that was almost 20 years ago man... not recent!”

 

Yet in your comment near the bottom of page 6, you started a comment by saying “Is that why Jews in 1947 had bought around 7% of the land from Arabs?”

 

Like I said, you use different rules of engagement for yourself, to the ones you expect others to use; and to compound your hypocrisy, you don’t even remember what you have written and need to be reminded.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

59 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Thats only one side of the history.

 

War and terror comes in phases, and believing one side is satan and one side is good only, is gullible at its best 

 

 

apologist, appeaser, or just breathtakingly naive ?

 

Whichever it is, you are an integral part of the problem.

 

[transam]

12 hours ago, Brickleberry said:

I know...lol that was almost 20 years ago man... not recent!

Oh dear, not recent, so it never happened.........😂

 

How about 2019 then...........😂

 

https://news.sky.com/story/how-the-london-bridge-terror-attack-unfolded-11874155

 

How about the ongoing Secret Service stuff thwarting Muslim terrorist stuff that we hear nothing about that happens....

 

I watched a vid last night, an ex. SAS member talking about stuff, he said that Islamic terrorist stuff is ongoing in the UK, it's out there....

[transam]

12 hours ago, BigBruv said:

And the rich people who profit from the military industrial complex got the wars & invasions they wanted 👍

 

 

Well there we have it, completely off-topic but reveals your true agenda...

Well done chap.......

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Who do you think you are to tell me what I do or do not do? I do know that your constant superiority complex thinking you're the only one that looks on the other side is pure ignorance.

 

The fact is that a terrorist massacre is just that and there is no justification no matter what the previous grievances if any. Mostly however they are carried out on innocent people with intent. NO justification.

 

Period

Your views is a very good example why this is a never ending story, and continue to go in circles, because an eye for an eye contributes only to continuously violence, and no reflection of why it is so.

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

apologist, appeaser, or just breathtakingly naive ?

 

Whichever it is, you are an integral part of the problem.

 

Seriously ignorant and one sided rhetoric. 

[Wobblybob]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Seriously ignorant and one sided rhetoric. 

Look in the mirror!

[Hummin]

15 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Look in the mirror!

Now you start using my answer to you.

 

Mirror effect. Never been one sided, and as said before, Im done going circles with you, because of your constantly strategy when debating. Low level and one sided and constantly twisting my points as now. 

 

 

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[Eloquent pilgrim]

10 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Seriously ignorant and one sided rhetoric. 

 

Tunnel vision

[Wobblybob]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Now you start using my answer to you.

 

Mirror effect. Never been one sided, and as said before, Im done going circles with you, because of your constantly cowardly strategy when debating. Low level and one sided and constantly twisting my points as now. 

 

 

You have never been comfortable with the truth and faced with it you emit poor thought out insults. You are always the victim.🥴

[transam]

11 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Seriously ignorant and one sided rhetoric. 

46% of British Muslim support Hamas, hmmmm, whodathought.....🤭

 

 

I also read that the Muslim Taliban are going to start stoning their women for looking the wrong way, is that incorporated in their book too.....?  🤔

[Bkk Brian]

29 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Your views is a very good example why this is a never ending story, and continue to go in circles, because an eye for an eye contributes only to continuously violence, and no reflection of why it is so.

No my views are what's called justice. That's what gets dished out when a terrorist is caught murdering innocent civilians.  

[Eloquent pilgrim]

24 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Seriously ignorant and one sided rhetoric. 

 

I listed just 15 of the hundreds of acts of terrorism carried out by muslims in the last 25 years, which have cost thousands of innocent lives, most of them in the last 10 years; there are hundreds more, and your only response was whataboutery.

 

You seem to be in complete denial about the danger that islam represents to every democratic society in the world, which makes you very much a part of the problem.

 

[Hummin]

18 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

I listed just 15 of the hundreds of acts of terrorism carried out by muslims in the last 25 years, which have cost thousands of innocent lives, most of them in the last 10 years; there are hundreds more, and your only response was whataboutery.

 

You seem to be in complete denial about the danger that islam represents to every democratic society in the world, which makes you very much a part of the problem.

 

Waste of time trying to explain our influence in all conflict areas and the endless political circle have triggered the terrorism we experience.

 

You are emotionally connected day to day headlines and have no interest to understand cause and reasons for this political world game of extortion of countries of strategic reasons, because of its location or resources. 

 

 

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[Hummin]

Spineless keyboard warriors sitting in their chair and think they are doing a good job back petting each other.

 

I havent given one emotion against those who spaek against me, not worthy

[Wobblybob]

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Spineless keyboard warriors sitting in their chair and think they are doing a good job back petting each other.

 

I havent given one emotion against those who spaek against me, not worthy

Don't let emojis get to you, they are not important.

[kevozman1]

1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

apologist, appeaser, or just breathtakingly naive ?

 

Whichever it is, you are an integral part of the problem.

 

 

Probably a liberal pretending to be a 'free thinker'. I don't fall for social engineering but if you have been around you know Muslims cause trouble everywhere, and furthermore if you know what is written in the Quran and the Hadiths, you know for sure they are not compatible to live with anyone else on a friendly basis. Oddly enough they do have one ally in Western liberals, but that is the clown fiesta I want nothing to do with.

 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

17 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Spineless keyboard warriors sitting in their chair

 

Irony alert 

[Hummin]

16 minutes ago, kevozman1 said:

 

Probably a liberal pretending to be a 'free thinker'. I don't fall for social engineering but if you have been around you know Muslims cause trouble everywhere, and furthermore if you know what is written in the Quran and the Hadiths, you know for sure they are not compatible to live with anyone else on a friendly basis. Oddly enough they do have one ally in Western liberals, but that is the clown fiesta I want nothing to do with.

 

 

It have nothing to do about liberalism, but I agree some fractions of socialists is as blinded as right wings

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[Eloquent pilgrim]

22 minutes ago, kevozman1 said:

 

Probably a liberal pretending to be a 'free thinker'. I don't fall for social engineering but if you have been around you know Muslims cause trouble everywhere, and furthermore if you know what is written in the Quran and the Hadiths, you know for sure they are not compatible to live with anyone else on a friendly basis. Oddly enough they do have one ally in Western liberals, but that is the clown fiesta I want nothing to do with.

 

 

 

Absolutely. There are now 30 known Sharia councils in the UK; they deal specifically with ‘problems’ within their non-integrating communities, such as divorce (very unhelpful for any women) the female genital mutilation of children, and honour killings; although what honour there is in slaughtering your own daughter has always evaded me ….. very noticeable that no sons never suffer from an honour killing, it is always the daughters, in keeping with Islams misogyny.

 

[Hummin]

2 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Absolutely. There are now 30 known Sharia councils in the UK; they deal specifically with ‘problems’ within their non-integrating communities, such as divorce (very unhelpful for any women) the female genital mutilation of children, and honour killings; although what honour there is in slaughtering your own daughter has always evaded me ….. very noticeable that no sons never suffer from an honour killing, it is always the daughters, in keeping with Islams misogyny.

 

Where is these muslims coming from and why are they there? 

[Bkk Brian]

This reminds me a little of the UNRWA schools in Gaza:

 

Secret Government report warns over 48 British Islamic schools are teaching intolerance and misogyny to future imams

Young imams are being trained in a network of Islamic schools across the UK that have been accused of promoting intolerance and misogyny, a secret Government report has warned.

The report claims preachers emerging from some of the dozens of Darul Uloom madrasas scattered across Britain have views as extreme as those held by radical clerics who move to the UK from Islamic countries – and may spread them to worshippers.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6993333/Disturbing-secret-Government-report-exposes-extremist-alert-48-British-Islamic-schools.html

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Irony alert 

The tragic fact is, if we where in their situation, what would we have done? 

 

Think carefully before you answer! 

 

Maybe not you, but I would for sure defend my people my land against a totalitarian unjustifiable force who pretended they did everything right for everyones best, but in practice abused the civilians, killed the civilians, unjustified detention of kids, abusing kids, shooting kids, even raped their women and boys. Sounds familar to what Hamas did the 7. October, but we are talking decades of the same abuse, and also take their land piece by piece. 

 

How many innocent civilians have died in the war of terror? And not to speak of the chaos left behind when pulled out, creating another scenario where etnic groups and religious groups revenged each other for who they participated with.

 

Gaza is just another location where world politics is executed in the worst form.

 

But I do not expect some of you guys agree, or willing to admit what comes around goes around, and for me, I have no need to support one or the other side.

 

I will fight for my country against evil, no matter who it is, and I think we will experience more terror and conflicts the years to come, because of the cultural differences as well religious differences. 

 

Im not especially posiive to mix strong cultures, and think it will be ok in the long turn.

 

Again, why do we have a large group of  religious immigrants to Europe? Can anyone answer that? What is the real cause? 

 

Destabilization of larger regions the last centuries? Could  that be one reason?

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[newnative]

    Sad and disturbing any way you look at it.  But, I guess not that surprising when you look at the large number of idiots who believe Trump's Big Lie.  People these day want to believe what they believe whether it's true or not.

[Wobblybob]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

The tragic fact is, if we where in their situation, what would we have done? 

 

Think carefully before you answer! 

 

Maybe not you, but I would for sure defend my people my land against a totalitarian unjustifiable force who pretended they did everything right for everyones best, but in practice abused the civilians, killed the civilians, unjustified detention of kids, abusing kids, shooting kids, even raped their women and boys. Sounds familar to what Hamas did the 7. October, but we are talking decades of the same abuse, and also take their land piece by piece. 

 

How many innocent civilians have died in the war of terror? And not to speak of the chaos left behind when pulled out, creating another scenario where etnic groups and religious groups revenged each other for who they participated with.

 

Gaza is just another location where world politics is executed in the worst form.

 

But I do not expect some of you guys agree, or willing to admit what comes around goes around, and for me, I have no need to support one or the other side.

 

I will fight for my country against evil, no matter who it is, and I think we will experience more terror and conflicts the years to come, because of the cultural differences as well religious differences. 

 

Im not especially posiive to mix strong cultures, and think it will be ok in the long turn.

 

Again, why do we have a large group of  religious immigrants to Europe? Can anyone answer that? What is the real cause? 

 

Destabilization of larger regions the last centuries? Could  that be one reason?

Maybe not you, but I would for sure defend my people my land against a totalitarian unjustifiable force who pretended they did everything right for everyones best, but in practice abused the civilians, killed the civilians, unjustified detention of kids, abusing kids, shooting kids, even raped their women and boys. Sounds familar to what Hamas did the 7. October, but we are talking decades of the same abuse, and also take their land piece by piece. 

You're not getting this at all are you, you are wanting to believe the lies that Hamas is selectively given the gullible and it soaks in like water into a sponge.

The Palestinians would not have to be defending anything had they not committed these gross acts of indecency against innocent civilians. You are playing the blame game to justify these outrageous attacks on Israelis to deflect on who is really responsible for this war.

Israel has no choice but to ensure these vile acts never happen again and never again is now!

[BigBruv]

17 hours ago, Brickleberry said:

 

I don't get why Muslims are being picked on here. There is a much bigger story, one third of all British adults believe Israel treats Palestinians the same way Nazis treated the Jews in WW2:

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/almost-one-third-of-british-adults-believe-israel-treats-palestinians-like-nazis-treated-jews-according-to-new-poll-tqljlt8e

 

 

The same way Nazis ALLEGEDLY treated the Jews in WW2 (his-story is written by the victors)

 

But yes, Israel has completely lost the zoomer generation - part of the reason they're trying to shut down the tiktik app - the kids know whats up and aren't impressed.

 

 

 

[Brickleberry]

5 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

You replied to someone saying “I know...lol that was almost 20 years ago man... not recent!”

 

Yet in your comment near the bottom of page 6, you started a comment by saying “Is that why Jews in 1947 had bought around 7% of the land from Arabs?”

 

Like I said, you use different rules of engagement for yourself, to the ones you expect others to use; and to compound your hypocrisy, you don’t even remember what you have written and need to be reminded.

And what was I responding to....

 

Jeez, if only people read what people were responding to, then they wouldn't look so foolish....