Western Engineer Assaults Pattaya Bar Women In Row Over Bill

[SportRider]

1 hour ago, pomchop said:

 

 

it also does not seem credible that thai staff would try and scam him with his thai wife there to argue his case...seems most thai gals who pay the bills for farangs go over the bills in detail and quickly call out any overcharge.

 

 

Unfortunately, having a Thai partner with you does not prevent bill-padding or short-changing.  In fact, even Thais themselves can be victims. 

 

Especially in certain bars where such practices almost seem to be policy.  I won't mention the name but one of these is in Treetown. 

 

I am fortunate to be very numerate even when drunk. Not everyone is. 

 

 

 

[Skipalongcassidy]

Here's a novel idea... if you are going to get so sheetfaced as to not remember how many beers or drinks that you have... pay as you go... for all you Thai bashers... tabs are run up all over the world... usually far greater than the extra 200 baht that may have been added in this case.

[jacko45k]

9 minutes ago, SportRider said:

I am fortunate to be very numerate even when drunk. Not everyone is. 

I usually stop at ten beers and then move on..... the KISS approach!

[RobU]

2 hours ago, RobU said:

No matter what the cost he didn't have to resort to violence. All he had to do was give them what he thought the bill should be and walk out. This is a violent man who deserves a prison sentence and possible deportation 

I wonder why someone put a confused emoticon to my statement above? Does that person have difficulty reading English?

[Srikcir]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

then pulled them both out to the middle of the road. 

Add kidnapping to his charges.

Unlawful restraint of a person's liberty by force.

Add threat with a weapon. 

"There were cars passing by"

Force a plea deal, ie., no prosecution, pay bill and 10k baht to each woman.

 

[ryandb]

over $30?

 

Seriously if you are drunk, there's a good chance you don't remember what you ordered,  4 or 5 imported beers and a glass of wine for the wife would likely trigger that (don't drink so could be wrong) obviously if he was on just chang, leo etc. and wasn't there for his entire session then he likely got done but write it off and sleep it off in your own bed rather than a concrete floor in a cell

 

 

[cookie1974]

1 hour ago, Sandboxer said:

 

Not in the context of the article/journalism, but I can tell you that people who come from professional backgrounds such as aviators are 99.9% less prone to such typical peasant blue collar behavior.

You must be an aviator as you have such a high opinion of yourself 

[brianthainess]

He thought they had engineered his bill, double vision? 

I'd like to see the bin, on how much his wife drank.

[wensiensheng]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

What on Earth made you leave out the Brits in that summary. That happens very rarely!

Brits are way out in front, out of sight. The rest are jostling for second place

[wensiensheng]

12 minutes ago, RobU said:

I wonder why someone put a confused emoticon to my statement above? Does that person have difficulty reading English?

Probably not. Understanding it may be an issue though

[BangkokReady]

5 hours ago, smedly said:

not hard to run up a bill of 1000baht when buying lady drinks

 

Aren't "lady drinks" fake drinks that men are required to "buy" in order to pay for the company of bar girls?  Why would his wife be buying "lady drinks"?  I doubt she works in the bar.  Or do you think she was trying to get more money from her husband and into the bar by buying the girls "lady drinks"?

[Andre0720]

2 hours ago, DjSilver said:

She deserved it trying to scam a foreigner in Thailand. She should have gotten more than this. She got off too easy.

 

More foreigners needs to stand up against these low life scammers...

So small problems like this should be resolved by use of violence you think.

A type of bar scam happened to me once.

I paid and walked away.

Never went back.

Buyer beware.

Lesson learned.

Move on....

[Hanuman2547]

I always check the chit entering my bin cup after it is placed there.  It does two things.  It lets me keep a running total of my bill and lets the wait staff know I'm checking the bill every time a drink is served.  

[BangkokReady]

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Always a possibility the wife ordered a few LDs onto the tab.... they like to act big in that way. 

 

Why, though?  She wanted bar girls to spend time with her and her husband?

[BritScot]

5 hours ago, gargamon said:

Nope. The only answer is that they were charging lady drink prices for his companion who was not an employee of the bar.

I think you could have a point and I too would have been very angry with my wife being tarred with the same brush as a working girl. I hope the police get to see all the recording and not the selected clip. Note a man should never raise his hand on a woman unless that woman stops behaving like a women and recieves a verbal warning.

[chuang]

5 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I read he is a Wastewater Engineer in another article, it said he drives a truck, transportation of sewage. 

 

He collects feces from domestic septic tanks, a Crapologist.  

 

I hope he washed his hands before beating the women up. 

 

In Singapore a toilet cleaner is called a Toilet Specialist..555

[Albaby]

2 hours ago, Maejo Man said:

In the last 25 years I have been with mrs MM, I would not dream of taking into a beer bar.

Likewise, mine won't even walk down a street that has bars. Puratin or snob? Probably both.

[smew]

Yes, 1000 not a big deal, but these bar ladies get bolder and bolder and next time will be 2000 or 3000, how much cheating no one knows, related to clients intoxication.

[Sandboxer]

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

Obviously never spent time living in an RAF mess!

Well I wasn't talking about the enlisted trash that CLEANS the planes. I meant the pros who FLY them 😂

[sandyf]

5 hours ago, gargamon said:

Nope. The only answer is that they were charging lady drink prices for his companion who was not an employee of the bar.

"only answer"

You need to get out a bit more.

[IamNoone88]

I feel sorry for the wife. She has to live with it.

[micmichd]

6 hours ago, champers said:

An uncivil engineer.

A German. 

[baipaibkk]

Throw the idiot out. I left Germany a long time ago because of people like that. Now they're coming here. Give him 1 year bangkok hilton then send the idiot home

[StayinThailand2much]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

TWO WOMEN working at a beer bar filed a complaint against a Western engineer (...)

 

A 'Western engineer'? What happened to the term 'dirty falang'?

[Kerryd]

12 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Why, though?  She wanted bar girls to spend time with her and her husband?

Could be where he met his "wife". All foreigners like to pretend that their wives were working "in a bank" or "at the DLT" or "at a high end car dealership" when they met them but the truth is, a lot of them met them at the first (or 2nd) beer bar they ever went in to.

I've seen loads of girls who like to drag their latest "catch" to their old bar to show off how generous their new ATM is. And he usually doesn't have a clue but likes all the attention he (and his ladyfriend) get from the staff. Pumps up the ego you know.

Lol - when I was working on a camp outside of Kabul in the early 00's, we had a firefighter that could have been a Chippendale's posterboy. The kind of guy who would suntan on a berm and there'd be a gaggle of girls trying to sneak peeks (seriously - the women's tents were on the other side of the road and from our office tent we could see them clustering around the edge of a tent to peek at buddy).

He went to Phuket on his first holiday. Fell in love with the 2nd girl he met in a bar. Came back to work and when his next holiday came up, cleared out his belongings and flew back to marry her. Seems he thought he'd just be able to take a PADI course or two and then open his own dive shop and start making money hand over fist. When that didn't work out and the money ran out - she divorced him and went back to the bar ! (As he'd left without giving notice so he could screw the company out of a paycheque - he couldn't come back to work either.)

[AAArdvark]

I guess he has not been reeding the news lately about cracking down on misbehaving  farangs. 

[newbee2022]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

 

TWO WOMEN working at a beer bar filed a complaint against a Western engineer at Pattaya City police station this afternoon (Apr. 7) for beating them up in a row over a bill and submitted a surveillance camera clip to support their accusation, TV Channel 7 said this evening.

 

Ms. Anchisa, 55, manager of the beer bar, and Ms. Warunee, 39, a general employee, told police that at 2 a.m. today a German man and his Thai wife came to their bar to drink beer. When they finished a bill was given to him but he refused to pay saying they had overcharged him and that he did not drink that much.

 

They then tried to explain the bill to him, with this totalling around one thousand baht, but he refused to listen and then attacked them.

 

They alleged that the engineer had pushed and slapped them as well as pulled their hair and held them to the ground then pulled them both out to the middle of the road. There were cars passing by but no one came to help them.

 

by TNR Staff

The beer bar workers being beaten up by a German engineer. Photo: TV Channel 7

 

Full story: THAI NEWSROOM 2024-04-08

 

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Out with him.😡 Re-entry not permitted. 

It's a shame how some farangs behave here. I'm sure he wouldn't have done it in Germany. 

Does he consider to be a superior race to treat Thais like 💩?

What a moron!👎

[Digitalbanana]

The headline could be described as "unnecessary labeling" or "irrelevant stereotyping." By mentioning the person's profession when it has no bearing on the story, the headline is potentially perpetuating a stereotype or generalization about engineers!

[sandyf]

2 hours ago, wavodavo said:

Thats exactly why you check each chit in the cup so if something is not correct you can sort it out before you check bin.

Quite. Twenty odd years ago I was talking toa guy in a bar and he called check bin, I said you off somewhere, he said no just pay regularly to reduce the risk.

It used to be quite common for someone to be seeing a girl working the bar and she would slip some chits into other bins. Prime targets were those in a group or the intoxicated.

Back in those days there were no forums making out it was unusual and only Thais being the perpetrators.

[StayinThailand2much]

1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Here's a novel idea... if you are going to get so sheetfaced as to not remember how many beers or drinks that you have... pay as you go... for all you Thai bashers... tabs are run up all over the world... usually far greater than the extra 200 baht that may have been added in this case.

 

One can (mostly) avoid that by looking at the bill(s) as soon as they arrive. Fortunately, people tried to rip me off as soon as I set foot in Thailand the very first time. Having never been to a developing country before, I learnt my lesson quickly, which helped me later, not just in Thailand, but also other countries. Hardly ever had a problem in bars, as the staff sees me looking at the bill when it arrives, so they don't even try to paddle my bills...