Andrew Bridgen Comments on Claimed Covid Vaccine Excess Deaths

[Robert Paulson]

We all know the vaccines are perfectly safe and perfectly effective. But this Andrew Bridgen character is discussing excess deaths in the UK Parliament. It’s at 14:33:00 if you want to listen to his outlandish claims. https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/168f642a-5708-4b1a-9857-d8eacf475252

 

 

Edited April 25 by stats
headline clarified to reflect disputed claim

[Red Phoenix]

Here the clip of the 16' speech that MP Danny Kruger delivered on 18 April 2024 for - once again - an almost empty British Parliament.

 

 

The comments on that speech are twofold:

1 - Kudos to Danny Kruger for having the courage to address that very real 'Hot Potato' issue.

2 - Anger and disgust for the absence of MPs and the disgraceful conduct of the Speaker of the House.

 

The speech itself goes beyond the Excess Deaths scandal, and addresses the accountability for the covid jab-response and questions the immunity of Pfizer/Moderna in light of what was known but not revealed to the unsuspecting public.  

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

And all of the above was widely ignored because everyone knows just who Bridgen is -- an anti-vax loon who was kicked out of his own Conservative political party for his nonsense, and someone whose past comments on COVID have repeatedly been  shown to be misleading and/or wrong.

Andrew Bridgen: MP expelled by Tories after Covid vaccine comments

26 April 2023

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-65402195

 

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https://fullfact.org/can-i-trust/1244/andrew-bridgen/

 

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Bridgen and Kruger have been down these same misinformation roads before in Parliament, and have been shown to be wrong and/or at best misleading.

MPs' vaccine debate fact checked

10 November 2022

 

MPs recently debated an e-petition asking the government to conduct an investigation into whether Covid-19 vaccines are responsible for an alleged “increase in heart attacks and related health issues”.  

 

We looked at a number of claims made about vaccines or Covid-19 during the debate on 24 October and found a number of them were misleading or missing important context. We have taken a look at a selection of them below. 

 

We have checked many of the claims before, including about government advice on whether pregnant women should be vaccinated, that Pfizer never tested whether its vaccine stopped transmission and whether vaccine side effects are underreported to the Yellow Card scheme.

 

(more)

 

https://fullfact.org/health/vaccine-safety-westminster-debate/

 

 

Edited April 25 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

The BBC also weighed in on Bridgen's COVID vaccine views as well in fact checking his past comments.

Andrew Bridgen: What has suspended MP said about vaccines?

12 January 2023

...

"However in recent months, he has made increasingly misleading statements about vaccine safety.

 

In December 2022, Mr Bridgen called in Parliament for a "complete suspension" of Covid vaccines based on what he described as, "robust data of significant harms and little ongoing benefit".

 

This went against the overwhelming weight of evidence, from a number of different independent teams of researchers, that found that Covid vaccines' benefits far outweigh any known harms.

 

(more)

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-64237949

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

And then as to Bridgen's central claim:

Fact Check: No evidence to link UK excess deaths to COVID-19 vaccines

By Reuters Fact Check

February 7, 2024

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"For example, ONS data show all-cause deaths in England were higher among the unvaccinated than those who had received at least one dose, for every month in its April 2021 to May 2023 dataset.

 

“There is no evidence COVID-19 vaccinations are linked to these estimated excess deaths,” a spokeswoman for the ONS said via email.

 

Experts point to the long-term effects of surviving COVID infection, NHS delays and a lack of preventive care as explanations for the higher-than-average mortalities.

...

VERDICT

Misleading. There is no evidence linking COVID-19 vaccines to excess deaths in the UK.

 

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/no-evidence-link-uk-excess-deaths-covid-19-vaccines-2024-02-06/

 

Edited April 25 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Red Phoenix]

The video recordings of the speeches of both MP's (Andrew Bridgen and Dany Kruger) are available on Parliamentlive.TV , which broadcasts all British Parliament proceedings. AseanNow members can access them and judge for themselves whether these two MP's are peddling mis/dis-information. 

[ChaiyaTH]

1 hour ago, Robert Paulson said:

We all know the vaccines are perfectly safe and perfectly effective. But this Andrew Bridgen character is discussing excess deaths in the UK Parliament. It’s at 14:33:00 if you want to listen to his outlandish claims. https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/168f642a-5708-4b1a-9857-d8eacf475252

We all know its safe? There is multiple court cases in europe going, some already done, that prove its not safe at all.

 

Seems you are living in history, as this is a big issue and about to pop in global news.

[Robert Paulson]

At the end of Mr. Bridgen’s address, a public gathering outside of the parliament listening ROARED IN APPROVAL TO THIS SPEECH. And the head of the parliament whats her name actually went out of her way and took measures to quiet them down. I suppose what we can take from this is the people in power don’t like it when we express our approval as taxpayers and citizens. You can hear this at 14:52:39 in the video from the original post. 

Edited April 25 by Robert Paulson

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

No correlation between vaccination coverage and the amount of excess mortality...

What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

02 Nov 2022

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Third, the healthcare systems of many countries are still reeling from the COVID-19 pandemic. Many hospitals remain underfunded, underequipped, and understaffed, leading to suboptimal care for patients.

 

But one thing we do know isn’t contributing to excess mortality is COVID-19 vaccines, contrary to claims by some. As we demonstrated earlier, there’s no correlation between vaccination coverage and the amount of excess mortality, nor is excess mortality positively correlated with the deployment of public COVID-19 vaccination campaigns. Therefore, the evidence available contradicts this claim.

 

https://healthfeedback.org/what-can-explain-the-excess-mortality-in-the-u-s-and-europe-in-2022/

 

Edited April 25 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

And then there's this:

 

UK Health Security Agency:

 

16 April 2024

 

"Current vaccines provide good protection against severe disease and hospitalisation. UKHSA surveillance data relating to last spring’s programme shows that those who received a vaccine were around 50% less likely to be admitted to hospital with COVID-19 from 2 weeks following vaccination, compared to those who remained unvaccinated.

 

According to World Health Organization data, 400,000 lives in England are estimated to have been saved up to March 2023 due to the COVID-19 vaccine programme."

 

https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2024/04/16/whos-eligible-for-the-2024-covid-19-vaccine-or-spring-booster/

 

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Covid vaccines saved more than 400,000 lives in England and Scotland, WHO says

 

The study is the most comprehensive to date in showing how effective Covid vaccines have been, scientists say

 

January 19, 2024

 

"Covid vaccines have saved more than 420,000 lives in England and Scotland, according to an analysis by the World Health Organisation (WHO).

 

The study estimates that jabs saved 396,532 lives in England and 24,340 lives in Scotland between December 2020 and March 2023.

 

As such, they reduced the death toll from Covid by 70 per cent during this period, the analysis found.

 

(more)

 

https://inews.co.uk/news/science/covid-vaccines-saved-lives-england-scotland-who-2862550

 

 

[connda]

2 hours ago, Robert Paulson said:

We all know the vaccines are perfectly safe and perfectly effective. But this Andrew Bridgen character is discussing excess deaths in the UK Parliament. It’s at 14:33:00 if you want to listen to his outlandish claims. https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/168f642a-5708-4b1a-9857-d8eacf475252

 

 

Make sure to personally get all of your shots and every available booster whenever they are available. Never miss one.  Otherwise, Killer Covid will get you.  Safe and Effective. 

[n00dle]

2 hours ago, Robert Paulson said:

We all know the vaccines are perfectly safe and perfectly effective. 

perfectly indeed. I admire  (though I do not share) your confidence.

[Red Phoenix]

Looks like we all agree - except for the 2 UK Members of Parliament - that the mRNA covid-shots are the best thing slnce sliced bread.  Keep on jabbing!

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

British Heart Foundation

 

Covid vaccines: your questions answered

 

Updated 31 January 2024

Is the coronavirus vaccine safe?

Yes. Vaccines are only approved for use after being tested on tens of thousands of people. All of the approved vaccines are shown to be safe.

 

In the UK, tens of millions of people have now had a Covid-19 vaccine, and reports of serious side effects have been very small. [emphasis added]

 

The Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) continues to monitor Covid-19 vaccines to make sure they meet strict standards of safety, quality and effectiveness.

 

https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/coronavirus-vaccine-your-questions-answered#safevaccine

 

Edited April 25 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[rumak]

4 hours ago, Robert Paulson said:

At the end of Mr. Bridgen’s address, a public gathering outside of the parliament listening ROARED IN APPROVAL TO THIS SPEECH. And the head of the parliament whats her name actually went out of her way and took measures to quiet them down. I suppose what we can take from this is the people in power don’t like it when we express our approval as taxpayers and citizens. You can hear this at 14:52:39 in the video from the original post. 

i do believe that your original post went over the heads of the opposition .  ( opposition here meaning those still clinging to the usual "news'  "facts" .)

Thankfully even this forum has shown that sooner or later other views will get out, and also many members have seen with their own eyes what is happening . 

And being such kind and loving souls ...... are graciously stepping to the side to let the crowds of booster seekers be assured of a place in line .

 

 

 

Edited April 25 by rumak

[Robert Paulson]

I dont know who I’m stealing this quote from and I hope I don’t butcher it too much, something along the lines of “in all of history, the side that does the censorship has never the correct side, they’ve never been proven right”. 

[danferguson]

On 4/25/2024 at 1:44 AM, Robert Paulson said:

At the end of Mr. Bridgen’s address, a public gathering outside of the parliament listening ROARED IN APPROVAL TO THIS SPEECH. And the head of the parliament whats her name actually went out of her way and took measures to quiet them down. I suppose what we can take from this is the people in power don’t like it when we express our approval as taxpayers and citizens. You can hear this at 14:52:39 in the video from the original post. 

 

Exactly how many people were in that public gathering outside parliament? 100? 200? 500?......

 

.....and how many people living in London/UK rolling their eyes and thinking "oh ffs, not that dickhead Bridgen again"?

[danferguson]

On 4/25/2024 at 1:20 AM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

And all of the above was widely ignored because everyone knows just who Bridgen is -- an anti-vax loon who was kicked out of his own Conservative political party for his nonsense, and someone whose past comments on COVID have repeatedly been  shown to be misleading and/or wrong.

Andrew Bridgen: MP expelled by Tories after Covid vaccine comments

26 April 2023

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-65402195

 

 

 

You have way more patience than me.....

 

[Red Phoenix]

25 minutes ago, danferguson said:

 

You have way more patience than me.....

 

Quick, get your booster as your patience is wearing thin...