They are terrorist.  Treat them as such.  

1 minute ago, chondan said:

They are terrorist.  Treat them as such.  

"Hamas is terrorist" and never again is now! 

40 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   We understand that the Palestinians got treated the way they did for a reason , reason being they they have been attacking Israel since Israel became a Country .

   Palestinians will keep fighting against Israel until they win and Israel no longer exists , their treatment has nothing to do with their actions 

Somehow you must have missed this part of history:

:During the 1948 Palestine war in which the State of Israel was established, around 700,000 Palestinian Arabs or 85% of the total population of the territory Israel captured fled or were expelled from their homes by Israeli forces.'

5 minutes ago, Presto said:

Somehow you must have missed this part of history:

:During the 1948 Palestine war in which the State of Israel was established, around 700,000 Palestinian Arabs or 85% of the total population of the territory Israel captured fled or were expelled from their homes by Israeli forces.'

 

  That would be a history lesson and we have been asked to stop giving history lessons .

We have also been asked to provide links to anything we quote from websites , which you haven't done 

Haven't you read the rules or do you just ignore them ?

 

UNC chapel students surround the USA flag to stop it being taken by protestors 

 

 

7 hours ago, novacova said:

Neo Marxist 

Indeed ! Umbrella’s are back in style 

at the UCLA riot.

Whats the count of colleges that have been infected with the lefts chaos now?Its all coordinated.

https://www.11alive.com/video/news/nation-world/raw-video-protest-clashes-at-ucla/85-076e7a6f-d2b7-4e9d-a719-d5fe3195caa3

 

Why didn’t these crotch waded wet diapered anarchies raise a fuss when isis was getting hammered to smithereens? After all the two are of the same and have the same objective. Maybe because they are the same racist hate group directed against Jews as the Nazis and the pacifists who are on the fence of moral confusion.

14 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Israel is allowing food aid in, there is no starvation .

Israel is not attacking food transports , Israel has tried to stop Hamas looting and stealing the food aid though and thus Israel is getting food to the people 

Your pants are on fire.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/may/01/middle-east-crisis-israel-hamas-gaza-war-rafah-iran-lebanon?page=with:block-66323dee8f084fb5cf82ab27

Middle East crisis: Jordan says some Israeli settlers attacked aid convoys on way to Gaza – as it happened

7 hours ago, chondan said:

They are terrorist.  Treat them as such.  

Are you talking about the israeli settlers? If you are I agree with you.

In respect to the Columbia University protestors; It now seems that a large number were not full time students and that there is an indication of third party funding.  At some point this will need to be investigated. More importantly, the  NYPD has offered the following observation as quoted in multiple New York newspapers;   Police explained why they knew the students were getting outside aid from agitators.  "The black block attire, the breaking windows, breaking doors, the vandalism property destruction, the barricading, the make-shift weapons that we recovered in the encampment," said Rebecca Weiner, the NYPD's deputy commissioner of intelligence and counterterrorism. "That change in tactics, combined with the presence of known individuals on campus in the lead-up to what happened in Hamilton Hall, is why we had a real elevated concern around public safety."

 

The New York Daily News had the article Pro-Palestinian CUNY students shattered glass doors, vandalized offices before City College NYPD raid. The article had this quote;  “Students have a right to demonstrate peacefully and exercise their First Amendment rights,” the CUNY spokesperson said. “Actions were taken in response to specific and repeated acts of violence and vandalism, not in response to peaceful protest.” 

 

I think what we have here is not a n issue of civil peaceful protest. rather it is a series of  civil disturbances initiated, funded and supported by third party agitators. Yes, for sure, some students are genuinely motivated and who do not wish to see anyone injured, but the clear message from the civil disturbances is that there is an intent to do harm and the  protests are now being manipulated by these people.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Your pants are on fire.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/may/01/middle-east-crisis-israel-hamas-gaza-war-rafah-iran-lebanon?page=with:block-66323dee8f084fb5cf82ab27

Middle East crisis: Jordan says some Israeli settlers attacked aid convoys on way to Gaza – as it happened

Yes a small number of israeli protestors attempted to disrupt an aid convoy yesterday. They are motivated by Hamas refusal to accept a ceasefire request from israel and release of the  hostages. It was a wrongful act, but understandable as their concerns are ignored. Israel has held off on a Rafah visit as it attempts to get a ceasefire with Hamas.

 

Enough aid has been entering Gaza to prevent a famine and hardship. The reality is that it was and is being diverted by Hamas, or is being looted by Gazans who then sell the goods for a profit.

The sad reality is that convoys are more likely to be attacked by Gazans than Israelis. This is never mentioned by Al Jazeera, and rarely mentioned by western media.  One in awhile there will be a mention in passing as was the case with the NYT     https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/21/world/middleeast/gaza-aid-convoys-ambush.html 

 Often the aid is taken by Hamas and distributed exclusively to Hamas personnel and families. There is a robust open market where food aid is sold with money going to the criminal gangs and who are holding some Israeli hostages for ransom and to Hamas.  And when a convoy is attacked, Hamas sympathetic media attempt to blame Israel for  it, even though it is Gazans attacking and looting

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/06/food-aid-convoy-bound-for-northern-gaza-looted-after-being-stopped-at-israeli-checkpoint 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/28/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-palestine/

 

Do you deny the above? Do you deny that one of the biggest problems of getting aid to Gaza is finding drivers for the convoys. Few Israeli Arabs want to do it. There are a few videos of some of the drivers venting their anger after an attack and vowing never to return to gaza again. So many westerners assume that there is great integrity and honesty with the Gazans, a noble resistance. Well there isn't.

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Do you deny the above?

Yes.

34 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Yes.

Ok so according to you Gazans are not attacking and looting aid convoys despite the overwhelming evidence that they are.

A quick search will  show some of the Arab drivers complaining about the Gazans attacking aid convoys.  I found this one from an Egyptian driver.  

 

Biden, the world is watching you very carefully. You continue to be complicit in Genocide and are breaking your own amendments by not allowing free speech demonstrations. Shame on you and all who voted for you. 

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Your pants are on fire.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/may/01/middle-east-crisis-israel-hamas-gaza-war-rafah-iran-lebanon?page=with:block-66323dee8f084fb5cf82ab27

Middle East crisis: Jordan says some Israeli settlers attacked aid convoys on way to Gaza – as it happened

 

   We are talking bout Israel , Israel as a country . 

The Government or the IDF .

We aren't talking about some individual Israelis and what they may and may not have done .

So you claim that I am a "liar liar  and my pants are on fire" is wrong , nur nur na nur nuuurrrr

19 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Ok so according to you Gazans are not attacking and looting aid convoys despite the overwhelming evidence that they are.

A quick search will  show some of the Arab drivers complaining about the Gazans attacking aid convoys.  I found this one from an Egyptian driver.  

 

You do know that Gazans are not only being slaughtered but they are also starving due to what Israel are doing?

Do you deny the Israeli Defence Minister said the following?

“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant says following an assessment at the IDF Southern Command in Beersheba.

“We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly,” he adds.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/defense-minister-announces-complete-siege-of-gaza-no-power-food-or-fuel/

 

4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

You do know that Gazans are not only being slaughtered but they are also starving due to what Israel are doing?

Do you deny the Israeli Defence Minister said the following?

“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant says following an assessment at the IDF Southern Command in Beersheba.

“We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly,” he adds.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/defense-minister-announces-complete-siege-of-gaza-no-power-food-or-fuel/

 

 

    That was said a few days after the terror attack on 7 th October .

It was discussed at the time and its been posted numerous times since .

Do try to keep up 

30 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Biden, the world is watching you very carefully. You continue to be complicit in Genocide and are breaking your own amendments by not allowing free speech demonstrations. Shame on you and all who voted for you. 

What genocide would that be? Since when has free speech included breaking into buildings and laying siege to them?

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

What genocide would that be? Since when has free speech included breaking into buildings and laying siege to them?

Good question.

 

"Free speech" is NOT the issue at universities. Students can demonstrate, wave signs, and protest to their hearts' content. They can NOT block buildings, block roads, prevent the normal operations of the university (classes etc) from happening. They most certainly cannot commit break and enter, burglary, vandalism, property destruction.  This is what caused the Columbia president to finally take action.

21 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Good question.

 

"Free speech" is NOT the issue at universities. Students can demonstrate, wave signs, and protest to their hearts' content. They can NOT block buildings, block roads, prevent the normal operations of the university (classes etc) from happening. They most certainly cannot commit break and enter, burglary, vandalism, property destruction.  This is what caused the Columbia president to finally take action.

A list of their demands include,

Anti-Israel UCLA protesters request shields, helmets, vegan and gluten-free donations after violent campus clash.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/01/us-news/anti-israel-ucla-protesters-request-donations-after-violent-clash/

 

Free speech is cooll but when the lefts

useful idiots cross the line , its time for the parents to be held accountable ,

Fines & jail time for Mr & Mrs parents.

18 minutes ago, riclag said:

A list of their demands include,

Anti-Israel UCLA protesters request shields, helmets, vegan and gluten-free donations after violent campus clash.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/01/us-news/anti-israel-ucla-protesters-request-donations-after-violent-clash/

 

Free speech is cooll but when the lefts

useful idiots cross the line , its time for the parents to be held accountable ,

Fines & jail time for Mr & Mrs parents.

You can tell they are a bunch of losers when they specify 'no coffee'.

 

How about just close the entire campus. Block all roads in and out. Put a barrier around their 'camp' and let them stew in their own juice for a few days. No supplies allowed in. No vegan snacks. And worst of all, no attention. Just let them sit until they get over their tantrum. Then arrest them as they leave.

10 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

You can tell they are a bunch of losers when they specify 'no coffee'.

 

How about just close the entire campus. Block all roads in and out. Put a barrier around their 'camp' and let them stew in their own juice for a few days. No supplies allowed in. No vegan snacks. And worst of all, no attention. Just let them sit until they get over their tantrum. Then arrest them as they leave.

If they were demonstrating against anything else than your beloved Israel, you'd not be saying this. Look at the reasons you don't like freedom for Gaza, although pretty obvious why to others.

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

If they were demonstrating against anything else than your beloved Israel, you'd not be saying this. Look at the reasons you don't like freedom for Gaza, although pretty obvious why to others.

I would LOVE Gaza to be free. Free from Hamas, free from 7th century religious fanaticism, free for LGBT people to live as who they are, free for women to take their place in society as the equals of men, free from terrorist indoctrination of children...

1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

I would LOVE Gaza to be free.

I don't believe you. 

Are you willing to give back the stolen land? 

11 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Biden, the world is watching you very carefully. You continue to be complicit in Genocide and are breaking your own amendments by not allowing free speech demonstrations. Shame on you and all who voted for you. 

 

free speech does not include taking over campus buildings etc. 

 

 

On 5/1/2024 at 4:00 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

The British and the French certainly  believed that Arab countries existed as they divided them up between them, even as they lied to the Arabs that if they helped defeat the Turks they'd get independence. See the Balfour Declaration.

 

   You do like to erroneously accuse people of lying .

The Arabs did indeed get independence as promised . The British and French withdrew from Arabia as promised 

An off topic post has been removed, Yellowstone has nothing to do with the topic

49 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I don't believe you. 

Are you willing to give back the stolen land? 

Which land would that be? AFAIK Gaza has been Jew-free for nearly 20 years.

58 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I don't believe you. 

Are you willing to give back the stolen land? 

 

   That option has gone .

Israel needs to take all the land .

Sharing the land is no longer possible 

47 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Which land would that be? AFAIK Gaza has been Jew-free for nearly 20 years.

He means "river to the sea"