Noisy Unlicensed Pattaya Villa Shut Down, Peace Restored for Locals

[webfact]

 

Pattaya authorities conducted a raid of a noisy, unlicensed pool villa following residents’ complaints about continual loud music and parties. The raid, which took place yesterday evening, signified a return to peace for the local community.

 

Weekit Manarojkit, the Banglamung District Chief, ordered his deputy, Pornchai Sang-iad, to lead official action against the villa, situated within the Banglamung district's Nongprue sub-district, Soi Thappraya 15.

 

The raid was carried out covertly with Sang-iad posing as a tourist who booked accommodation for 10 people inside the villa for a nightly rate of 4,999 baht. He used marked banknotes to pay the housekeeper; once payment was accepted, he revealed his true identity.

 

The shocked housekeeper was taken to the Banglamung District Office, facing accusations of violating the Hotel Act B.E. 2547. This law prohibits the operation of any hotel without a license.

 

Penalties include a fine of up to 20,000 baht, a one-year jail sentence or both. An additional daily fine of up to 10,000 baht may be applied if the violation continues.

 

Authorities are persistently trying to identify the villa's owner to initiate further legal proceedings.

 

A local resident anonymously revealed the villa's constant noisy disturbances.

 

Sang-iad confirmed that the villa operation without a license led to its shutdown. He stated, "We are now working to identify the owner," emphasizing the need for law enforcement in such scenarios.

 

The quick actions by the authorities display their dedication to maintaining law and order, responding to local disturbances, and enforcing consequences for businesses operating without the necessary legal permits.

 

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-- 2024-05-01

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[JoePai]

 ....display their dedication to maintaining law and order    

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

"We are now working to identify the owner," emphasizing the need for law enforcement in such scenarios.

 

It seems that is not so easy in Thailand.

I spoke with a guy who lives in a condominium. Next to him is always a lot of noise from the people who rented that unit.

He told the building management and they told him they can't do much.

He asked them to contact the owner. The condominium management told them they don't know the owner and they don't have any contact information.

 

Maybe someone here knows how to handle noisy neighbors who are not the owners. 

[Korat Kiwi]

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

It seems that is not so easy in Thailand.

I spoke with a guy who lives in a condominium. Next to him is always a lot of noise from the people who rented that unit.

He told the building management and they told him they can't do much.

He asked them to contact the owner. The condominium management told them they don't know the owner and they don't have any contact information.

 

Maybe someone here knows how to handle noisy neighbors who are not the owners. 

Management don't have a record of owners or contact details huh??? 

 

I'm sure that they would find these details pretty darn quickly should money be owed to the body corporate. 

 

More like they just don't give a stuff. Unless there's money to be made. 

[NanLaew]

Oh no, not....

 

[OneMoreFarang]

18 minutes ago, Korat Kiwi said:

Management don't have a record of owners or contact details huh??? 

 

I'm sure that they would find these details pretty darn quickly should money be owed to the body corporate. 

 

More like they just don't give a stuff. Unless there's money to be made. 

 

I don't know if the management has the owner's names. But I am pretty sure sometimes the management does not have any contact details from owners. Bad management, bad records, new management, records get lost, people don't communicate, ...

[Henk Langeweg]

High placed person within hearing distance?

[Tony M]

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I don't know if the management has the owner's names. But I am pretty sure sometimes the management does not have any contact details from owners. Bad management, bad records, new management, records get lost, people don't communicate, ...

Someone must know who the owner is. The owner, or the owner's agent, must pay fees to the condo each year, etc.  Who does City Hall send the bill for annual condo tax to ? Who pays the tax ?  The condo can pressure the owner or the agent, or take legal action, to get the owner to take action for payment, for noise under the Wrongful Acts legislation, or whatever.

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Maybe someone here knows how to handle noisy neighbors who are not the owners. 

With care... 

[john donson]

I thought illegal airbnb was for condo's only.... 

[Bangkok Barry]

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Maybe someone here knows how to handle noisy neighbors who are not the owners. 

 

If you were Thai, you'd just go round and shoot them. That isn't really an option for foreigners, though.

[newbee2022]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

 

Pattaya authorities conducted a raid of a noisy, unlicensed pool villa following residents’ complaints about continual loud music and parties. The raid, which took place yesterday evening, signified a return to peace for the local community.

 

Weekit Manarojkit, the Banglamung District Chief, ordered his deputy, Pornchai Sang-iad, to lead official action against the villa, situated within the Banglamung district's Nongprue sub-district, Soi Thappraya 15.

 

The raid was carried out covertly with Sang-iad posing as a tourist who booked accommodation for 10 people inside the villa for a nightly rate of 4,999 baht. He used marked banknotes to pay the housekeeper; once payment was accepted, he revealed his true identity.

 

The shocked housekeeper was taken to the Banglamung District Office, facing accusations of violating the Hotel Act B.E. 2547. This law prohibits the operation of any hotel without a license.

 

Penalties include a fine of up to 20,000 baht, a one-year jail sentence or both. An additional daily fine of up to 10,000 baht may be applied if the violation continues.

 

Authorities are persistently trying to identify the villa's owner to initiate further legal proceedings.

 

A local resident anonymously revealed the villa's constant noisy disturbances.

 

Sang-iad confirmed that the villa operation without a license led to its shutdown. He stated, "We are now working to identify the owner," emphasizing the need for law enforcement in such scenarios.

 

The quick actions by the authorities display their dedication to maintaining law and order, responding to local disturbances, and enforcing consequences for businesses operating without the necessary legal permits.

 

File photo for reference only.

 

-- 2024-05-01

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What caused the noise btw? If I invite my friends it's not a business, not even if they'll give a small donation, isn't it?😳

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, Tony M said:

Someone must know who the owner is. The owner, or the owner's agent, must pay fees to the condo each year, etc.  Who does City Hall send the bill for annual condo tax to ? Who pays the tax ?  The condo can pressure the owner or the agent, or take legal action, to get the owner to take action for payment, for noise under the Wrongful Acts legislation, or whatever.

 

Independent of the noise maker, I know from "my" condominium that some people don't pay what they should pay. And as far as I know they can get away with such behavior until they try to sell their unit. It seems they can't sell it before all the bills from the building are paid.

And it seems some people let out their units through agents. The people who rent only know the agent. And when the condominium management asks the agent about the owners, they don't give that information.

Can the agent be made responsible for paying money which the owner much pay?

Can the (probably rent paying) people who live there be fined or thrown out?

It seems legally that situation is not so easy in Thailand.

 

 

 

[SAFETY FIRST]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Banglamung district's Nongprue sub-district, Soi Thappraya 15.

There's a nudist resort on the left ¾ way down. 

 

May  have been those pesky nudist. 

 

Edited May 1 by SAFETY FIRST

[Tony M]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

Independent of the noise maker, I know from "my" condominium that some people don't pay what they should pay. And as far as I know they can get away with such behavior until they try to sell their unit. It seems they can't sell it before all the bills from the building are paid.

And it seems some people let out their units through agents. The people who rent only know the agent. And when the condominium management asks the agent about the owners, they don't give that information.

Can the agent be made responsible for paying money which the owner much pay?

Can the (probably rent paying) people who live there be fined or thrown out?

It seems legally that situation is not so easy in Thailand.

 

 

 

The condo has a form of lawyers, on contract, for sure, to do all of their legal work.

[natway09]

Unbelievable how Thailand with all these official Departments have allowed people to operate businesses without correct licences, planning approvals or even having correct contact details on file.

It does demonstrate just how inefficient these departments have become along with no checking by them.

Be honest, you can't hide a resort unless the paper bag has blindfolds inside

[OneMoreFarang]

18 minutes ago, natway09 said:

Unbelievable how Thailand with all these official Departments have allowed people to operate businesses without correct licences, planning approvals or even having correct contact details on file.

It does demonstrate just how inefficient these departments have become along with no checking by them.

Be honest, you can't hide a resort unless the paper bag has blindfolds inside

It's almost like those pubs where suddenly, years later, someone discovers they don't have a license. TiT. 

[moe666]

9 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I don't know if the management has the owner's names. But I am pretty sure sometimes the management does not have any contact details from owners. Bad management, bad records, new management, records get lost, people don't communicate, ...

Sometimes the owners live overseas or the property is in Pats the owner is in Bangkok

[Scouse123]

16 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

It seems that is not so easy in Thailand.

I spoke with a guy who lives in a condominium. Next to him is always a lot of noise from the people who rented that unit.

He told the building management and they told him they can't do much.

He asked them to contact the owner. The condominium management told them they don't know the owner and they don't have any contact information.

 

Maybe someone here knows how to handle noisy neighbors who are not the owners. 

 

 

The person collecting the rent will know who the owner is and where they are.

[OneMoreFarang]

4 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

The person collecting the rent will know who the owner is and where they are.

Maybe, but that doesn't mean he will give that information to anybody.

[newnative]

On 5/1/2024 at 12:49 PM, Tony M said:

Someone must know who the owner is. The owner, or the owner's agent, must pay fees to the condo each year, etc.  Who does City Hall send the bill for annual condo tax to ? Who pays the tax ?  The condo can pressure the owner or the agent, or take legal action, to get the owner to take action for payment, for noise under the Wrongful Acts legislation, or whatever.

Agree.  Management is taking the easy way out.

[newnative]

On 5/1/2024 at 1:42 PM, john donson said:

I thought illegal airbnb was for condo's only.... 

Me, too.  Good to know it applies to houses also.

[Liverpool Lou]

On 5/1/2024 at 1:42 PM, john donson said:

I thought illegal airbnb was for condo's only.... 

Where did it report that this was an Airbnb rental?

[Liverpool Lou]

On 5/1/2024 at 1:54 PM, newbee2022 said:

What caused the noise btw? If I invite my friends it's not a business, not even if they'll give a small donation, isn't it?

The raid followed a paid-for "hotel" booking for 10 people, not drinks with someone's mates.

[Rimmer]

An off topic post has been removed

[newnative]

13 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Where did it report that this was an Airbnb rental?

I think 'airbnb' is becoming a generic term for referring to short-term rentals, much like kleenex is for facial tissues.

[snowgard]

On 5/1/2024 at 9:46 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

 

It seems that is not so easy in Thailand.

I spoke with a guy who lives in a condominium. Next to him is always a lot of noise from the people who rented that unit.

He told the building management and they told him they can't do much.

He asked them to contact the owner. The condominium management told them they don't know the owner and they don't have any contact information.

 

Maybe someone here knows how to handle noisy neighbors who are not the owners. 

Call the police!!! If they not react, call newspapers and report it!!!
 

noiseproblems.pdf

[Alldar]

Does anyone know what are the regulations in Thailand regarding noise?

 

I also have problem with my neighbour who is complaining that my music is 'too loud'. I am never listening the music during the night time and I never have any kind of parties. I just like to listen music on my soundbar. And I never put it too loud in my opinion - 80% max volume.

 

Can I have some problems? I am really annoyed by him telling me I cannot use my property as I would like.

[OneMoreFarang]

7 minutes ago, Alldar said:

Does anyone know what are the regulations in Thailand regarding noise?

 

I also have problem with my neighbour who is complaining that my music is 'too loud'. I am never listening the music during the night time and I never have any kind of parties. I just like to listen music on my soundbar. And I never put it too loud in my opinion - 80% max volume.

 

Can I have some problems? I am really annoyed by him telling me I cannot use my property as I would like.

I suggest play your music as usual and then leave you apartment and close the front door. And then listen how much you still hear from that music.

Personally, I think if you hear a little that some music is playing, then it's not too loud.

If you still hear the music in the hallway, even if you are 10m away from your door, then probably it is too loud.

 

80% max volume is meaningless. 

I am sure 25% of my (1000W) speakers is more than enough to entertain the floor.

 

[Alldar]

10 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I suggest play your music as usual and then leave you apartment and close the front door. And then listen how much you still hear from that music.

Personally, I think if you hear a little that some music is playing, then it's not too loud.

If you still hear the music in the hallway, even if you are 10m away from your door, then probably it is too loud.

 

80% max volume is meaningless. 

I am sure 25% of my (1000W) speakers is more than enough to entertain the floor.

 

Well I have very good door and they are isolating the music quite well, but the neighbour is from the next room and he is complaining that he hears it through the wall.

 

I have just regular Samsung soundbar with 360W. But my question is can I have some problems if I listen the music too loud during the day?

Edited May 5 by Alldar
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