Whats the legal age of consent in Thailand. Its confusing.

[BangkokReady]

11 minutes ago, Phat Dawg said:

Different food, different religion, different language, different levels of education, different levels of intellectuality, different family values, different agendas, different generations, etc. No, never mind, your totally right, two people of similar age and background would surely pose a much lower chance of success. 

 

There are a lot of miserable men who have/had all of these "sameness" boxes ticked.  Some are miserable because it all fell apart.  Some are miserable because they're still with the woman in question.

 

At the same time, there are foreign men who are very happily married to Thai women 10, 20 or 30 years younger than them.

 

I think you're overestimating the importance of those things in a relationship and underestimating the importance of money, in both cultures.  (The Thai girl is only with him for his money, sure, but do Western women marry or stay with broke Western men?)

[Liverpool Lou]

5 minutes ago, susanlea said:

The topic has nothing to do with marriage and your advice to a 40yo guy is 15yo is ok which will send him to jail in 1 or 2 countries.

I am not advising him that "having sex with a 15-year old is ok" as you claim (neither do I condone it), I am saying that the age of consent for sexual activities in Thailand, not other countries, is 15, which it is.

[Liverpool Lou]

11 minutes ago, susanlea said:

It is illegal for adults to have sex with 15yos. Your advice is terrible.

 

https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/thailand

It is not illegal, as the link that you provided, ironically and clearly, confirms.  I am not giving advice, as you falsely claim, I am answering the OP's question, nothing more.  From your own link...

"What is the Thailand Age of Consent?

The Age of Consent in Thailand is 15 years old".

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I am not advising him that "having sex with a 15-year old is ok" as you claim (neither do I condone it), I am saying that the age of consent for sexual activities in Thailand, not other countries, is 15, which it is.

 

   It isn't though .

Parental consent is needed for under 18's and even if consent is gained , the Parents can change their mind after you've banged her .

   The girl can change her mind after the event as well , she can give consent one day and change her mind the next day and then press charges .

   If any payment is involved , that would be classified as child prostitution , with or without consent 

[Liverpool Lou]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It isn't though .

Parental consent is needed for under 18's and even if consent is gained , the Parents can change their mind after you've banged her .

   The girl can change her mind after the event as well , she can give consent one day and change her mind the next day and then press charges .

   If any payment is involved , that would be classified as child prostitution , with or without consent 

The OP did not ask about consent, i.e. whether it was given or not, he asked specifically about the legal age to give consent for sexual activities, which is 15. 

If you have something that states just that the legal age to provide consent for sex specifically is other than 15, please provide it, without throwing in qualifiers such as parents, consent (apart from the age for) and child prostitution, aspects that I have not commented on. 

You also need to read the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act 1996, as to what aspects of prostitution are illegal in relation to the OP's question.  The OP's friend, for example, would not be committing a child prostitution offence simply by giving her money. 

[Phat Dawg]

12 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

There are a lot of miserable men who have/had all of these "sameness" boxes ticked.  Some are miserable because it all fell apart.  Some are miserable because they're still with the woman in question.

 

At the same time, there are foreign men who are very happily married to Thai women 10, 20 or 30 years younger than them.

 

I think you're overestimating the importance of those things in a relationship and underestimating the importance of money, in both cultures.  (The Thai girl is only with him for his money, sure, but do Western women marry or stay with broke Western men?)

Fair enough and I don't disagree. But statistically the chance for success with someone less than half your age, with less than half of your life experiences, with little knowledge about the world and most likely very little education or English skills is statistically low. 
 

As for the financial arrangement, yes, there are plenty of both Thai and Western women with broke diick guys from their own country because some women need different things.
 

But in this particular arrangement it can only be one reason the girl is interested in him. It's fine if that pure business exchange works for him, but it also means if he ever loses his wallet, or she finds a bigger better deal, he's gonna lose the girl too. So things are already off on a dodgy footing. But he's obviously not anywhere near the first to take the red pill and by far has no chance of ever being the last. 

[QuantumQuandry]

12 minutes ago, Phat Dawg said:

But statistically the chance for success with someone less than half your age, with less than half of your life experiences, with little knowledge about the world and most likely very little education or English skills is statistically low. 

 

Source for these statistics?

[FritsSikkink]

2 hours ago, advancebooking said:

A mate of mine is aged in 40s. He told me an 18 year old is interested in him. In western countries I think this is not a problem. But here I wasn't sure. I told him I thought it was 20 years old. 

 

If he got involved with this girl and it went pear shaped is he in a spot of bother? He has checked her id card. She is 100% 18 yrs old. 

 

Not interested in moral opinions, only legal. 

Don't get involved with sexual activities with girls who could be you daughter or grandchild. Nothing to worry about then.

[FritsSikkink]

2 hours ago, advancebooking said:

duh. read above. He saw the id card. Cant get better evidence than that. 

 

2 hours ago, susanlea said:

For sex 18yo is legal with other adults.

Prostitution isn't.

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

...but not the age for sexual consent, which is 15. And it is very easy to confirm that.

That depends how old the other person is. Other things come in the equation too.

Try it with my daughter and you won't be able to tell your friends about it.

[Puccini]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Prostitution, i.e. paying for sex, is not illegal, certain specifics of the activity are, though.  

 

The OP did not ask about proof of consent, did he?

[Puccini]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That wasn't the OP's question. 

 

Bit it is an answer to the OP's question.

[cdnvic]

This is a very sensitive topic, legally and otherwise. Please limit discussion to legal matters. Name calling and shaming will be deleted without further comment.

[Lorry]

LiverpoolLou is quite misleading,  and his utterances are dangerous, as has been noted by several posters.

 

Yes, the age of consent is 15. But that only means that sleeping with a 15-year-old is not automatically statutory rape.

It is still considered illegal by all Thais I know. 

Technically, you maybe would not be accused of statutory rape, but of indecent acts, obscenity, seduction, abduction of a minor - any law protecting decency and protecting parents' power over their children (that's why it's a compoundable offence, and that's why consent of a 16-year old can be withdrawn after the fact)

The case of Big Ass is explained in Wikipedia: 

 

A high-profile example of this application of the law was a statutory rape charge filed against the lead singer of the Thai band Big Ass for allegedly having had sex with a (then) 16-year-old girl. The charge was filed by the girl after the singer refused to take responsibility for her baby. The singer has since been cleared of being the baby's father due to the results of a paternity test and he received 2 years suspended sentence

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Asia

 

For all practical purposes,  consider 18 the age of consent. 

I have heard of 19-year-olds who tried the same as Big Ass' girl,  but they were too old and nothing came of it.

 

 

[JeffersLos]

50 year old Thais aren't adults.

[Hummin]

3 hours ago, advancebooking said:

But we all heard about the american teacher pedo and the german guy who flew back to germany. Both with 16 yr olds and in trouble. 

I believe most teachers in any civilized country would be in trouble for  fouling around with their students. 

[Simon1287]

3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It is not illegal, as the link that you provided, ironically and clearly, confirms.  I am not giving advice, as you falsely claim, I am answering the OP's question, nothing more.  From your own link...

"What is the Thailand Age of Consent?

The Age of Consent in Thailand is 15 years old".

 

Despite what anyone might decide is or isn't the legal age for sex the plain fact is that having sex with an under 18 year old in modern day Thailand, paid or unpaid, opens you up to the possibility of huge expense, imprisonment or both. 

 

If the girl happened to be the daughter of a Thai with “standing” and money who did not approve it might even be sensible to shy away if she was 19, though 18 is fine 99.999% of the time. (Of course, I am only referring to possible “legal” repercussions).

 

It's a fact. Bear it in mind.

 

 

[susanlea]

5 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

The OP did not ask about consent, i.e. whether it was given or not, he asked specifically about the legal age to give consent for sexual activities, which is 15. 

If you have something that states just that the legal age to provide consent for sex specifically is other than 15, please provide it, without throwing in qualifiers such as parents, consent (apart from the age for) and child prostitution, aspects that I have not commented on. 

You also need to read the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act 1996, as to what aspects of prostitution are illegal in relation to the OP's question.  The OP's friend, for example, would not be committing a child prostitution offence simply by giving her money. 

More bad advice. You are condoning illegal underage sex. The only legal age for adults is 18. The 15 to 17 category has no revelance to a 40yo. 

[susanlea]

6 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It is not illegal, as the link that you provided, ironically and clearly, confirms.  I am not giving advice, as you falsely claim, I am answering the OP's question, nothing more.  From your own link...

"What is the Thailand Age of Consent?

The Age of Consent in Thailand is 15 years old".

You left out the important bit

 

"However, sex with a minor under age 18 is a compoundable offense, regardless of consent."

 

That means it is illegal for a 40yo which the OP is talking about. You gave terrible advice. 

 

It really is simple to understand

1 to 14 illegal for everyone

15 to 17 legal for 15 to 17 only

18+ legal for 18+ only

 

That's what all the websites say and what Thai law says.

 

 

[Skipalongcassidy]

6 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

The OP did not ask about consent, i.e. whether it was given or not, he asked specifically about the legal age to give consent for sexual activities, which is 15. 

If you have something that states just that the legal age to provide consent for sex specifically is other than 15, please provide it, without throwing in qualifiers such as parents, consent (apart from the age for) and child prostitution, aspects that I have not commented on. 

You also need to read the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act 1996, as to what aspects of prostitution are illegal in relation to the OP's question.  The OP's friend, for example, would not be committing a child prostitution offence simply by giving her money. 

It is not as cut and dried as you want everyone to believe... there are qualifiers in place that alter your black and white perspective... yes... the legal age of consent is 15... HOWEVER there are legal risks involved for having sex with a person 15/16/17 even if they have given consent... think of it as "QUALIFIED CONSENT" not total consent... 

Is it Allowed to Have Sex with Someone who is Under 18 Years Old?

It depends. Thai laws state that any sexual relationship with minors aged 15, 16, and 17 is a compoundable offense.

In other words, the authorities will not pursue the guilty party of their own accord, but the underage participant can still press charges.

In short, it is possible to date someone who is aged between 15 and 17 years old. It’s even possible to have sex with them.

However, by doing so, you’re exposing yourself to the risk of being reported to the local authorities by her or her parents because she is still considered a minor.

 

[BritManToo]

9 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

In Thailand the age of consent is set at 15 years old.

The term "age of consent" specifically refers to the minimum age at which a person is considered legally competent to provide consent for engaging in sexual acts. Individuals below this age do not possess the legal capacity to consent to sexual activities.

 

Unless they're married ...........

[OneMoreFarang]

8 hours ago, Phat Dawg said:

Different food, different religion, different language, different levels of education, different levels of intellectuality, different family values, different agendas, different generations, etc. No, never mind, your totally right, two people of similar age and background would surely pose a much lower chance of success. 

I come from Europe, when I met my Thai gf she was a teenager and 15 years younger than me. After many years, we are still together, mostly happy.

One of the reasons why I am in Thailand is because back home I didn't find a girl/woman who I wanted to stay together with for a long time. Back then I was what some would call the prime for guys to find a suitable wife. I had a good job, money, slim and tall, and in general I am a nice guy (maybe that's a problem). I just didn't find a match over there, and that included women my own age.

In Thailand it didn't take long to find girls who I liked and who liked to stay with me. I pay the bills, but I never had any arrangement with a girl that I give her x amount per month or something like that.

 

IMHO Farangs and Thai girls who are many years younger than the guys are often a good match. She makes him happy, he makes her happy. Everybody is happy.

Not always, but often it works just fine.

 

[BangkokReady]

7 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Don't get involved with sexual activities with girls who could be you daughter or grandchild. Nothing to worry about then.

 

What is there to "worry about" if you get involved with someone over 18 but who is old enough yo be your daughter or granddaughter?

[BangkokReady]

40 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

IMHO Farangs and Thai girls who are many years younger than the guys are often a good match. She makes him happy, he makes her happy. Everybody is happy.

Not always, but often it works just fine.

 

People clearly get very upset about older men being with younger women. I assume its a little bit social conditioning and a little bit jealousy.

 

It's one of those situations where people convince themselves that something is bad, likely because they want it but can't have it. Cognitive dissonance means they cannot accept reality, even where people bring up their real life experiences.

 

The fact is, Thailand is very different to back home, and relationships are a lot more about what each partner can provide (and older guys seem to be a good prospect in Thailand). You only have to look at how many very unattractive men have nice looking girlfriends in Thailand. Also, women are very different to men and find different things attractive. If Western societies didn't control men so strictly, there would probably be a lot more older guys with younger girls.

[cdemundo]

9 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Good that nothing could go wrong if she would be 30 or 40 or 50, correct?

And obviously they would certainly be happy after if they both would be from the same country and culture, correct?

Think again! 

I was trying to think of a way to say this but you pretty much said it perfectly.

 

[BangkokReady]

6 hours ago, Hummin said:

I believe most teachers in any civilized country would be in trouble for  fouling around with their students. 

 

I'm pretty sure that in high schools in the UK, even where the student is over 16 (age of consent in the UK), a teacher will be in big trouble if they have any sort of relationship with a student.

[spidermike007]

18 to be on the safe side, anything under that and you're just looking for problems. If you're an American citizen and you are found with someone 16 or under by the police, you can and will be tried for statutory rape in the US. An assistant district attorney will fly here on an overnight flight, put you in handcuffs, take you back to Washington, try you on a federal case and they will get an conviction unless you have 5 million dollars to spend on legal fees. In which case you might be able to get the sentence reduced, if not you're going to be spending 10 years in a federal pen. So think about that the next time you don't check the ID of a very very young looking gal. It is not a joke. 

 

And then the next question is why the need for underage when 18 to 25 is as hot as most men are going to need? 

[impulse]

As spidermike points out, the OP's buddy also has to consider his home country's laws, in addition to Thai laws on the topic.

 

And I'd be real careful about an ID "proving" anything.  A week after the deed, there may be a knock on the door and a very different ID presented, along with a demand for a big chunk of change to stay out of prison.

 

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

10 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

The Thai girl is only with him for his money, sure

No

Living with a girl who is 15 years younger makes it 100% sure that they are not same. It's not that both work and both do the homework and both this and that. That is a western feminist concept which obviously doesn't work.

When he is considerably older then she is his young princess. He does lots of things which makes the young princess happy.

And she is in the situation that she lives in (relative) luxury - most likely in very much better condition as if she would be together with a boy of her own age. Probably she doesn't have to work, gets many things which she wants (and he can afford), etc. And when the girl visits her parents, she is seen as the successful girl who was/is able to get and keep a farang husband who provides.

Money, and the luxury money can buy, is part of it, but certainly not all of it.

[OneMoreFarang]

9 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

   It isn't though .

Parental consent is needed for under 18's and even if consent is gained , the Parents can change their mind after you've banged her .

   The girl can change her mind after the event as well , she can give consent one day and change her mind the next day and then press charges .

   If any payment is involved , that would be classified as child prostitution , with or without consent 

When I started the relationship with my Thai gf she was under 18. She didn't ask her parents, and I didn't ask her parents.

Her mother died early, and she walked away from her father when she was 14 or about that age.

As far as I know her father didn't know about her living with me until she was maybe 20 years old. He didn't complain.

 

And about girls or women changing their mind: I don't know if that is really an issue in Thailand. I never heard about a case that a guy had a relationship and sex and later she complained that x weeks or months or years ago she didn't really consent.

On the other hand, in "the west" there are cases like with Julian Assange, where a woman had at least 3 times sex with him. According to her the 1st and 3rd time was consensual but the 2nd time it wasn't. Crazy!

 

My personal advice: Don't run into a trap. Think twice what you do. But don't overthink all the things which possibly could go wrong. There are enough old women out there who accuse men of rape decades ago. The only way to avoid that is to have no sex at all or even better never meet a female alone.