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Michael Cohen Takes Center Stage in Trump's Hush Money Trial

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1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Your memory is terrible. How many times do you have to be told it was entered as legal expenses? 

 

Do you still no know the difference? 

 

Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal.

 

Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal.

 

Stormy violates the contract.

 

The state claims it was an illegal campaign contribution.

 

Trump is indicted.

 

 

 

 


He only sees what he WANTS to see in all of his posts.

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yup there’s that pesky evidence big time in black and white on tape ya da ya da ya da your trump is in deep trouble the only thing that will let him get away with it is a hung jury that’s it they have

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It’s been a busy day in trump world lol 😂 I was personally delighted when the prosecutor was reading trump tweets praising cohen then when cohen turned states evidence of course trumps tweets changed

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15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Odd that you mention Obama.

 

I tuned into FOX News for both his Presidential Election wins. 
 

Unmissable TV.

 

 

Did you get to keep your doctor? I didn't. 

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Danderman123 Star Member

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1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Not a crime

False

Legal

False claim

Trump did not deduct the payments, or lest them on any tax forms. 

 

But yes, he will be convicted, because of people like you. 

 

 

You know what Trump did to get himself indicted, but you choose to try to confuse people about it, because you perceive that's your mission.

 

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1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Your memory is terrible. How many times do you have to be told it was entered as legal expenses? 

 

Do you still no know the difference? 

 

Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal.

 

Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal.

 

Stormy violates the contract.

 

The state claims it was an illegal campaign contribution.

 

Trump is indicted.

 

 

 

 

Cohen billed Trump the $130,000 paid to Stormy Daniels as a passthrough, but Trump claimed the payment was for legal services, not for Stormy Daniels to shut up.

 

Everyone knows that, but you insist on trying to confuse people. Perhaps you feel better about yourself for doing that, but I think it's whacked.

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Danderman123 Star Member

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2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

The part where Trump has committed an actual crime, much less a felony. 

Trump committed business fraud, and faces 34 charges.

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Yellowtail Star Member

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7 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You know what Trump did to get himself indicted, but you choose to try to confuse people about it, because you perceive that's your mission.

 

You go with the hyperbole because you know I am right, and because you, as a leftist, do not care about the truth. 

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candide Star Member

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4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

A convicted liar (to Congress) ready to take the stand.   Think OJ trial  ...  should be a short deliberation as well.

 

Some quality testimony, Daniels & her convicted lawyer (if testifying)  ... 

... they're joking right.

Of course, he's a liar! He used to work for Trump! 😀

However, it seems his testimony is corroborating the other testimonies!

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Just now, Yellowtail said:

You go with the hyperbole because you know I am right, and because you, as a leftist, do not care about the truth. 

Trump is indicted because he committed business fraud.

 

You don't understand it, that's all.

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1 minute ago, candide said:

Of course, he's a liar! He used to work for Trump! 😀

However, it seems his testimony is corroborating the other testimonies!

And vice versa, the other witnesses corroborate Michael Cohen's testimony.

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5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Cohen billed Trump the $130,000 paid to Stormy Daniels as a passthrough, but Trump claimed the payment was for legal services, not for Stormy Daniels to shut up.

 

It's your memory again. He called it legal expenses, not legal services, how many times have we gone over this? 

 

Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal.

 

Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal.

 

Stormy violates the contract.

 

The FEC looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

Bragg looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

The Biden DOJ sends one of their top guys to New York to make up a campaign finance violation. 

 

Trump is indicted.

 

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

 

Everyone knows that, but you insist on trying to confuse people. Perhaps you feel better about yourself for doing that, but I think it's whacked.

Indeed

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G_Money Platinum Member

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7 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Trump is indicted because he committed business fraud.

 

You don't understand it, that's all.


Jury has not made their judgement yet.  Don’t get ahead of yourself.

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2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

It's your memory again. He called it legal expenses, not legal services, how many times have we gone over this? 

 

Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal.

 

Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal.

 

Stormy violates the contract.

 

The FEC looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

Bragg looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

The Biden DOJ sends one of their top guys to New York to make up a campaign finance violation. 

 

Trump is indicted.

 

Indeed

Trump arranged for Michael Cohen to provide fake invoices, and paid them as if they were for attorney services, when, in fact, the payment was for the Stormy Daniels hush money.

 

Business fraud. To cover up the initial illicit campaign donation.

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39 minutes ago, G_Money said:


Still upset you didn’t make my shortlist for Danderman to refer to for clarification?

 

Don't hate.  It doesn’t fit in with the core values of liberalism.

 

You just weren’t qualified!  I don’t do DEI, EEO or any of that other WOKE BS.

More gibberish!

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Danderman123 Star Member

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4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

It's your memory again. He called it legal expenses, not legal services, how many times have we gone over this? 

 

Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal.

 

Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal.

 

Stormy violates the contract.

 

The FEC looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

Bragg looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

The Biden DOJ sends one of their top guys to New York to make up a campaign finance violation. 

 

Trump is indicted.

 

Indeed

FEC clearly stated that they declined to prosecute the illegal campaign donation because they knew that DOJ was already working the case.

 

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Yellowtail Star Member

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16 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Trump arranged for Michael Cohen to provide fake invoices, and paid them as if they were for attorney services, when, in fact, the payment was for the Stormy Daniels hush money.

 

Business fraud. To cover up the initial illicit campaign donation.

 

How was it a complain donation it Trump paid Cohen back? 

 

t's your memory again. He called it legal expenses, not legal services, how many times have we gone over this? 

 

Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal.

 

Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal.

 

Stormy violates the contract.

 

The FEC looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

Bragg looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

The Biden DOJ sends one of their top guys to New York to make up a campaign finance violation. 

 

Trump is indicted.

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Yellowtail Star Member

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15 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

FEC clearly stated that they declined to prosecute the illegal campaign donation because they knew that DOJ was already working the case.

 

Bidens DOJ was working on a state case, we agree. 

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4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

How was it a complain donation it Trump paid Cohen back? 

 

t's your memory again. He called it legal expenses, not legal services, how many times have we gone over this? 

 

Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal.

 

Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal.

 

Stormy violates the contract.

 

The FEC looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

Bragg looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

The Biden DOJ sends one of their top guys to New York to make up a campaign finance violation. 

 

Trump is indicted.

You're doing the crazy breakdown of a crime into it's discrete parts.

 

Let me help you: Cohen paid Stormy Daniels to assist the Trump campaign, which was an illegal campaign donation.

 

Trump reimbursed Cohen, but claimed the payment was for attorney services, not for the hush money payment.

 

The initial campaign finance violation was covered up by Trump not listing the expense as being for hush money, which was fraud.

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8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Bidens DOJ was working on a state case, we agree. 

Trump's DOJ prosecuted Cohen for his campaign finance violation and he went to jail.

 

FEC declined to prosecute Cohen because he already pled guilty.

 

Do you think Trump's DOJ was lying about the payment being a campaign finance violation?

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Yellowtail Star Member

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18 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You're doing the crazy breakdown of a crime into it's discrete parts.

 

Let me help you: Cohen paid Stormy Daniels to assist the Trump campaign, which was an illegal campaign donation.

 

Trump reimbursed Cohen, but claimed the payment was for attorney services, not for the hush money payment.

 

The initial campaign finance violation was covered up by Trump not listing the expense as being for hush money, which was fraud.

t's your memory again. He called it legal expenses, not legal services, how many times have we gone over this? 

 

Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal.

 

Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal.

 

Stormy violates the contract.

 

The FEC looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

Bragg looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

The Biden DOJ sends one of their top guys to New York to make up a campaign finance violation. 

 

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1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

You mean the way you keep lying and saying Trump recorded the payments as attorney services?

What did he say? 

 

Trump recorded the transactions as "legal services", which is how invoices from attorneys are normally paid.

 

The problem is that the payment to Michael Cohen wasn't for legal services, it was compensation for an illegal campaign finance violation.

 

As for Trump, for the first time, he admitted he knew about the NDA.

 

Oops

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5 hours ago, eisfeld said:

 

Don't bother, Yagoda is a troll. Asking for someone to lay out a case against Trump on a topic about a case being run against Trump...

There is not one person here who is capable of setting forth facts to support each and every element of the case against trump. In other words, facts that were adduced at trial. 

 

I'll make it easy for the Trump deranged to understand, since they are in their own fantasy world. But here it is, Read It and Weep:

 

The reason that no one here can set forth facts to support each and every element of the crime charged against Trump it's because they do not exist, nor does the crime, and again, not one person here can do it. Sure, the truly trump deranged set forth all the conclusory allegations, but no facts.

 

Here's another one, not one person here can provide me with the crime that Trump allegedly committed that raises these bookkeeping misdemeanors to a felony. Not one. And not one of you can provide the statute that underlies that crime. You know why, because fat Alvin can't either.

 

But hey, who's the troll. The one who points out the flaws in the argument, or the ones who keep making the same stupid arguments over and over again.

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5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Odd that you mention Obama.

 

I tuned into FOX News for both his Presidential Election wins. 
 

Unmissable TV.

 

 

The only time you ever watched TV and got facts. 

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22 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

There is not one person here who is capable of setting forth facts to support each and every element of the case against trump. In other words, facts that were adduced at trial. 

 

I'll make it easy for the Trump deranged to understand, since they are in their own fantasy world. But here it is, Read It and Weep:

 

The reason that no one here can set forth facts to support each and every element of the crime charged against Trump it's because they do not exist, nor does the crime, and again, not one person here can do it. Sure, the truly trump deranged set forth all the conclusory allegations, but no facts.

 

Here's another one, not one person here can provide me with the crime that Trump allegedly committed that raises these bookkeeping misdemeanors to a felony. Not one. And not one of you can provide the statute that underlies that crime. You know why, because fat Alvin can't either.

 

But hey, who's the troll. The one who points out the flaws in the argument, or the ones who keep making the same stupid arguments over and over again.

Borrowing Yellowtail's trolling tactics now? 😃

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1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

There is not one person here who is capable of setting forth facts to support each and every element of the case against trump. In other words, facts that were adduced at trial. 

 

I'll make it easy for the Trump deranged to understand, since they are in their own fantasy world. But here it is, Read It and Weep:

 

The reason that no one here can set forth facts to support each and every element of the crime charged against Trump it's because they do not exist, nor does the crime, and again, not one person here can do it. Sure, the truly trump deranged set forth all the conclusory allegations, but no facts.

 

Here's another one, not one person here can provide me with the crime that Trump allegedly committed that raises these bookkeeping misdemeanors to a felony. Not one. And not one of you can provide the statute that underlies that crime. You know why, because fat Alvin can't either.

 

But hey, who's the troll. The one who points out the flaws in the argument, or the ones who keep making the same stupid arguments over and over again.

 

The one who asks people on a forum to lay out each and every fact of the trial. The one who asks for statutes. The one who hasn't bothered to read the indictment or charges but asks others to present them. The one using "Trump deranged". And the one who calls people names. You.

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53 minutes ago, candide said:

Borrowing Yellowtail's trolling tactics now? 😃

You mean pointing out uncomfortable truths. That's called trolling or misinformation by the Trump crowd. And I bet you couldn't provide us with any facts either.

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1 minute ago, eisfeld said:

 

The one who asks people on a forum to lay out each and every fact of the trial. The one who asks for statutes. The one who hasn't bothered to read the indictment or charges but asks others to present them. The one using "Trump deranged". And the one who calls people names. You.

I'm not the one claiming he is guilty. In america, in case you did not know, it's the burden of the government to prove guilt behind a reasonable doubt. But if you ask the screeching mob trumpophobics, they can't give you any facts all. Not one. They can't even tell you what the crime is.

 

I bet you haven't read the indictment. Just another guy without facts, only insults.

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1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

You mean pointing out uncomfortable truths. That's called trolling or misinformation by the Trump crowd. And I bet you couldn't provide us with any facts either.

Come on! You could at least troll in an original way! 😁

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