Nick Carter icp Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 7 minutes ago, vinny41 said: In addition there are a number of legal experts 5 British and 1 American-Israeli that support this application Who is that American -Israeli person ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Who is that American -Israeli person ? its in the FT link also he was former judge and former president of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expat Tom Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 There is good reason that the USA is not a member of the ICC. There are many good reasons why the US should pull out of the UN. Clearly, that won't happen but many Americans would like like to see the USA to pay no more than its fair share of the funding of the UN based on its GDP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDSmart Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Absolutely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: How does that sound racist, you cannot even explain what you have said yourself. I simply mentioned that he was born in Edinburgh and that his father is Pakistani … these are simply facts. I also note that he had his sidekicks endorse the applications for arrest warrants. The main one being the wife of George Clooney Amal Clooney Publishes Expert Report Supporting ICC Arrest Warrant Applications for Crimes in Israel and Palestine https://cfj.org/news/amal-clooney-publishes-expert-report-supporting-icc-arrest-warrant-applications-for-crimes-in-israel-and-palestine/ She was born in Beirut (Lebanon) and called Amal Alamuddin before marriage. I think Hamas has a permanent and established presence in Lebanon where Israel is having rockets fired from Hezbollah. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobU Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 IDF? Hamas? Both are terrorist organisations that commit war crimes, murder civilians, want the extinction of all citizens associated with the other and to wipe the territory of the other off the map but one has the backing of the United States 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 26 minutes ago, RobU said: IDF? Hamas? Both are terrorist organisations that commit war crimes, murder civilians, want the extinction of all citizens associated with the other and to wipe the territory of the other off the map but one has the backing of the United States Israel are happy and content to live alongside Palestinians , its the Palestinians who refuse to live alongside Israel peacefully 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie999 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 18 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Please also include the people who sent all those weapons to Israel. The war wouldn't happen without the unconditional support from the USA and others. That's not illegal... good try 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 2 hours ago, Neeranam said: No need to get personal. Do you deny the charges from the ICC? Do you deny denying those charges on this forum? Go away troll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Go away troll. Your usual response to questions you find difficult or can't answer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 It's quite obvious regarding the deliberate starvation of Gazans. As one of the war criminals, the worst IMHO, said “I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant says following an assessment at the IDF Southern Command in Beersheba. “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly,” he adds. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 minute ago, Neeranam said: Your usual response to questions you find difficult or can't answer. Stop your obnoxious baiting. Why would anyone answer troll questions? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 2 hours ago, Neeranam said: Do you deny the charges from the ICC? This is absolutely typical of your appalling bias; there are no charges from the ICC, just an application to make charges; you did not even read the article, but are so blinded by hatred that you simply read the headline and went on another anti-Israel rampage; and you expect to taken seriously on this forum … 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 4 minutes ago, Neeranam said: You have been continually denying that Israel have done any wrong. I detect now that you know you were wrong. Have Hamas done anything wrong? Yes or No! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodysfriend Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said: We are talking about Netanyahu. Not Milosevic. https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-05-21-24/index.htmlFrance’s support for court’s decision to seek arrest warrants for Hamas and Israeli leaders marks a split between its position and that of allies including US, UK and Italy Edited May 21 by nobodysfriend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 3 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said: https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-05-21-24/index.htmlFrance’s support for court’s decision to seek arrest warrants for Hamas and Israeli leaders marks a split between its position and that of allies including US, UK and Italy I was surprised Milosevic was put on trial. If he can, so can Netanyahu. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 24 minutes ago, Neeranam said: It's quite obvious regarding the deliberate starvation of Gazans. As one of the war criminals, the worst IMHO, said “I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant says following an assessment at the IDF Southern Command in Beersheba. “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly,” he adds. You do keep posting that . That was said on the day after the Hamas terror attack . Although that was what he said , that wasn't what happened, because food and supplies were let into Gaza . He spoke the day after the terror attack , so he was speaking from emotion rather than suggesting a long term strategy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 33 minutes ago, Neeranam said: It's quite obvious regarding the deliberate starvation of Gazans. I would think that it would be a simply case of a defence of *no one has starved to death* and Israel has allowed food into Gaza , so it would be a not guilty . Why are they also not seeking arrest warrants for Egyptians for not allowing food into Gaza ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Summerinsiam Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 Israel has a right to defend itself proportionately. It does not have a right to do what it is doing now and is finally being held belatedly to account. The Hamas attack on Israel does not justify genocide and a war on women and children. You can argue about the semantics of genocide ad infinitum but that is what it is. The Hamas attack on Israel, on the watch of 'Mr security Netanyahu' has left Israel in serious trouble, with Iran being the geopolitical winner. Firstly, they are stuck in an uninhabitable Gaza with no exit strategy. Ariel Sharon withdrew in 2004 because he recognized that the occupation was militarily unsustainable. They will never achieve total victory against an ideology. Secondly, since the incident with Iran their central strategy of escalation deterrence no longer holds true. Hezbollah have forced tens of thousands of Israelis in the north to leave their homes. Israel is surrounded by hostile states and non-state actors who can now hit Israel with cheap technologically advanced drones and rockets. Hezbollah alone has one hundred and fifty thousand at their disposal. As the carefully telegraphed Iranian missile attack proved Iron Dome is insufficient. Thirdly, the Israelis have trashed their reputation and global standing, notably with the global south and the younger generation in the western world. They have the blood of tens of thousands of innocents on their hands and have created a famine. Bibi refuses to stop, because his government, which is dominated by religious zealots would collapse and he would be prosecuted for corruption. And still, flying in the face of global opinion and doing irreparable damage to his re-election chances the hapless Biden stands by his man. Pathetic. 2 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 3 minutes ago, Summerinsiam said: Pathetic. As is 90% of your post! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 6 minutes ago, Summerinsiam said: Thirdly, the Israelis have trashed their reputation and global standing, notably with the global south and the younger generation in the western world. They have the blood of tens of thousands of innocents on their hands and have created a famine. Bibi refuses to stop, because his government, which is dominated by religious zealots would collapse and he would be prosecuted for corruption. And still, flying in the face of global opinion and doing irreparable damage to his re-election chances the hapless Biden stands by his man. Pathetic. Well explained, thanks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summerinsiam Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 4 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: As is 90% of your post! Why don't you enlighten me as to why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 14 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said: If I’m not funding them with my tax dollars I could not care less what they do. If I am however I prefer they not be genocidal maniac baby mass murderers My question was NOT addressed to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 6 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Well explained, thanks. You have NOT answered my question yet! Have Hamas done anything wrong? Yes or No! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 8 minutes ago, Summerinsiam said: You can argue about the semantics of genocide ad infinitum but that is what it is. No it is not, and if you don't understand that then you either have a very poor grasp of the English language, or you have a blatant anti-Israeli bias; the genocide of all jews both in Israel and worldwide is written in the founding charter of Hamas. There is no such policy or dictum in Israeli charters or government legislation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 7 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Well explained, thanks. You call that an explanation? I call it an illogical rant! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, Aussie999 said: That's not illegal... good try As far as I know it is illegal to export weapons if there is a chance that these weapons will be used illegally like in war crimes. That information was in the news in the last couple of weeks. But obviously the Americans don't care. Support Israel no matter what. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summerinsiam Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 8 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: No it is not, and if you don't understand that then you either have a very poor grasp of the English language, or you have a blatant anti-Israeli bias; the genocide of all jews both in Israel and worldwide is written in the founding charter of Hamas. There is no such policy or dictum in Israeli charters or government legislation More deflection and totally off base. But, but Hamas........... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 minute ago, Summerinsiam said: More deflection and totally off base. But, but Hamas........... But but but Hamas are the subject of this thread . How can it be deflection when the topic is about Hamas ? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 18 minutes ago, Summerinsiam said: More deflection and totally off base. But, but Hamas........... Deflection ? ... seriously ? How is directly addressing something you said deflection ? You can hold strong, controversial, offensive, anti-Israel, or even antisemitic views if you so choose; what you cannot do however, is change the meaning of words in the English language in order to give try and give credence to such views. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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