delgarcon Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 It looks like the guy that died had a heart attack. I can relate to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 I have been on some hairy flights in my time, especially when I was in the Army... Only a couple of times on big civilian airliners, though, it certainly isn't a pleasant experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maitdjai Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 41 minutes ago, Ralf001 said: looks like a wild ride, Love me some turbulance. 8 minutes ago, Ralf001 said: how many people are un-buckled to go to the loo at any given time ? The “Expert”, and master of negotiating, is throwing out groundbreaking, scientific analyses again. Lol. 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Ralf001 said: how many people are un-buckled to go to the loo at any given time ? I understand your trying to be facetious because that's what you do but on a 777-300ER there are 9 toilets. If each is occupied and there are other people waiting it can be quite a few. Of course then you have people walking to and from toilets and others who are simply not buckled up. Added to this you have the cabin crew. Due to the large number of injuries and one or more fatalities I would assume that this turbulence was not detected by the onboard equipment, no turbulence warnings given by the pilot and the buckle-up signs were not on. Edited May 21 by dinsdale 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 2 minutes ago, Maitdjai said: The “Expert”, and master of negotiating, is throwing out groundbreaking, scientific analyses again. Lol. Sorry what ? I asked a question not throwing out a groundbreaking, scientific analyses. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 2 minutes ago, dinsdale said: I understand your trying to be facetious because that's what you do but on a 777-300ER there are 9 toilets. So if each is occupied and there are other people waiting it can be quite a few. Of course then you have people walking to and from toilets and others who are simply not buckled up. Added to this you have the cabin crew. Due to the large amount of injuries and one or more fatalities I would assume that this turbulance was not detected by the onboard equipment, no turbulance warnings given by the pilot and the buckle-up signs were not on. hopefully they learn to stay seated and buckled ! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 49 minutes ago, Georgealbert said: If you look at the picture where the vents are hanging down, you see the passenger below them, has a head wound and blood down his face, I would suggest he never had his seat belt on and when the plane dropped he smashed into the overhead fittings, hence it was the passengers that caused this damage. Today's Sherlock Holmes! Solves all mysteries without ever being at the (crime) scene! Pure conjecture on your part! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 43 minutes ago, Bday Prang said: Act of god ? certainly not a tragedy by any stretch of the imagination It is for the family of the deceased passenger! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgealbert Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Boeing issue a statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 4 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: It is for the family of the deceased passenger! reckon they will get a decent payout.. will help ease the pain/suffering/grief. how ever if seatbelt light was on... and the peep was un-belted,.... Hmm maybe not ! Edited May 21 by Ralf001 3 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgealbert Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 29 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: Today's Sherlock Holmes! Solves all mysteries without ever being at the (crime) scene! Pure conjecture on your part! Sorry, where did I state it was a fact. I said a suggestion that was a lot more likely than the poster I replied to, who said the plane was following apart. “One passenger on board said the plane suffered a "dramatic drop", suggesting people not wearing a seatbelt were "launched immediately into the ceiling".” Here is any suggestion for you, that picture appears to taken on the ground as medical staff are doing triage, as the person on the far left is wearing a shirt that seems to say AOT nurse. By the way it is not a crime scene. https://news.sky.com/story/images-show-inside-of-singapore-airlines-plane-after-one-killed-in-turbulence-13140773 Edited May 21 by Georgealbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 3mZkYauExeqJLQs4.mp4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 22 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: I have been on some hairy flights in my time, especially when I was in the Army... Only a couple of times on big civilian airliners, though, it certainly isn't a pleasant experience. Gets the old sphincter going doesn't it. I had two fly arounds on a DC 10 landing in Mumbai, India on the edge of a cyclone. 1st time in we broke through the low cloud at a very, very disturbing angle of approach. 2nd time wind sheer. 3rd time lucky but it was a bit of a hard landing. Cabin crew looked terrified. I had a very quick word with the co-pilot when disembarking. I asked him if we were lucky. His answer was yes. He looked shaken as did the crew and the passengers. Never forget that one that's for sure. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Woof999 Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, KhunBENQ said: I would not be surprised if the whole plane has to be written off due to structural damage? Possible but I would guess not. It's going to need some new interior panels that's for sure. Aircraft like that can take one hell of a beating before getting permanently bent, but this incident would have included quite a bit of -ve G, which commercial airframes are less tolerant to. I'm guessing it will have something akin to a hard landing check, or even have a heavier C or D check brought forward if the loads were that great. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglekott Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) https://www.facebook.com/share/v/7WE2vG29XkWPLJYp/ Worked a bit now it seams to have stop work again, am I doing something wrong? Edited May 21 by Eaglekott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, roo860 said: Was on the Thai news tonight, Bangkok Hospital ambulances lined up to ferry the injured, they'll be well taken care of for sure. Video of the departing ambulances: video_509119225546932579-SSUY1pNG.mov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgealbert Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 6 minutes ago, Eaglekott said: https://www.facebook.com/share/v/7WE2vG29XkWPLJYp/ Link seams to work this time, seams like a pretty bad drop. Sorry that video is not this flight. The video was posted on Sky News in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lordgrinz Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 Turbulence, and it won't make the plane fall apart, far from it......unbuckled passengers is the real issue. 1 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dmaxdan said: It would appear that the plane was close to falling apart. I know that the oxygen masks are supposed to deploy in an emergency but should the air vents be falling down and injuring passengers? The turbulence must have been off the scale! Is the photo of the damaged interior of a passenger cabin of the plane that did the emergency landing at BKK? The photo legend "File photo for reference only. Courtesy of Google" suggests that it is not. Edited May 21 by Puccini 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgealbert Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 4 minutes ago, george said: Video of the departing ambulances: video_509119225546932579-SSUY1pNG.mov 10.22 MB · 7 downloads Believe that is the ambulances leaving the emergency RVP (rendezvous point) and being allowed air side, to access the aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgealbert Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 5 minutes ago, Puccini said: Is the photo of the damaged interior of a passenger cabin of the plane that did the emergency landing at BKK? The photo legend "File photo for reference only. Courtesy of Google" suggests that it is not. Yes that is this flight, and is being used by many news sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgealbert Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Latest update from Singapore Airlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 37 minutes ago, Woof999 said: I'm guessing it will have something akin to You have no knowledge of the incident and are just guessing! So why post such cr@p? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglekott Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 16 minutes ago, Georgealbert said: Sorry that video is not this flight. The video was posted on Sky News in 2019. Oh really thank for the correction, maybe that's why it get removed from FB every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 6 minutes ago, Georgealbert said: Yes that is this flight, and is being used by many news sites. The photos in this news article are labelled as being from the flight SQ321 that did the emergency landing at BKK: https://news.sky.com/story/images-show-inside-of-singapore-airlines-plane-after-one-killed-in-turbulence-13140773 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Woof999 Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 1 minute ago, scottiejohn said: You have no knowledge of the incident and are just guessing! So why post such cr@p? Yes, I'm guessing, which is exactly what I wrote in my post. My guess is also based on a fair amount of knowledge of the aviation industry. If you have more, state it and give us some expert opinion. Add to to discussion rather slagging off others. Additionally, this is a forum. We post opinions, ideas and, yes, sometimes a load of "cr@p". If you've got a problem with that, I really don't care. 1 1 2 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 3 minutes ago, Woof999 said: 7 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: You have no knowledge of the incident and are just guessing! So why post such cr@p? Yes, I'm guessing, which is exactly what I wrote in my post. My guess is also based on a fair amount of knowledge of the aviation industry. If you have more, state it and give us some expert opinion. Add to to discussion rather slagging off others. Additionally, this is a forum. We post opinions, ideas and, yes, sometimes a load of "cr@p". If you've got a problem with that, I really don't care. Lots of interesting comments on here, with good opinions from some... ... I completely agree with your comment in response to scottiejohn... forums are designed for discussion and debate, which is the very thing he seems to be criticising.... ... Perhaps he'd be better off reading a news webpage instead of this forum - then he wont have to read discussions and opinion. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgealbert Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) Replacement Singapore Airlines aircraft due to land in a few hours, it is carrying some passengers from SQ321 who are unhurt and wished to continue with their journey to Singapore. When landing passengers and relatives will be moved to a special waiting area away from the media. Edited May 21 by Georgealbert 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgealbert Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Puccini said: The photos in this news article are labelled as being from the flight SQ321 that did the emergency landing at BKK: https://news.sky.com/story/images-show-inside-of-singapore-airlines-plane-after-one-killed-in-turbulence-13140773 The picture is being used by many Thai emergency responders sites and aviation sites, and it appears to show the aircraft on the ground at BKK, as thhe medics are doing triage on the passengers. The person standing on the lift appears to be wearing a AOT nurse shirt, which would confirm this. https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/singapore-airlines-flight-hit-by-turbulence-dropped-6-000-feet-in-just-5-minutes-5713833 Edited May 21 by Georgealbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paris333 Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 (edited) Accident: Singapore B773 near Bangkok on May 21st 2024, severe turbulence kills one and injures 37 A Singapore Airlines Boeing 777-300, registration 9V-SWM performing flight SQ-321 from London Heathrow,EN (UK) to Singapore (Singapore) with 211 passengers and 18 crew, was enroute at FL370 about 210nm westnorthwest of Bangkok (Thailand) when the aircraft suffered severe turbulence causing injuries to a number of passengers. The crew descended the aircraft to FL310 and decided to divert to Bangkok where the aircraft landed on runway 19R about 30 minutes later. One passenger was pronounced dead upon arrival, 30 passengers and 7 crew were taken to hospitals. The airline confirmed there had been severe turbulence causing one fatality and injuries on board of flight SQ-321. The airline later reported: "As of 1950hrs Singapore time on 21 May 2024, 18 individuals have been hospitalised. Another 12 are being treated in hospitals." Authorities in Bangkok reported a British citizen (73) on board died as result of a heart attack. Seven people are in critical conditions. 23 other passengers and 7 crew received injuries of varying degrees. According to ADS-B data the speed over ground of the aircraft dropped rapidly by about 20 knots prior to starting the (controlled) descent from FL370 to FL310. The data also reveal the aircraft had experienced an altitude deviation of -100/+300 feet about 350nm westnorthwest of Bangkok while enroute at FL370 over Myanmar about 15 minutes earlier. Source: https://avherald.com/h?article=518e5d47&opt=6144 British man killed by turbulence on London to Singapore flight When the aircraft has high speed and falls into an air gap the Captain reduces the speed of the aircraft in order to reduce the turbulence. The Captain of the aircraft considered whether to increase the speed of the aircraft in order to leave the air gaps quickly while alternatively maintaining the existing flight speed and all of these happens between the Gulf of Thailand and Myanmar region. Another point to take account is that the plane fell 6m/second while landing is 4m/second........and it took 5 minutes to descend around 1800 meters. Incidentally, most injuries occure to those not wearing seatbelt during sudden downward movements of the plane do not occur when they hit the ceiling of the cabin, but rather when they subsequently "land" on armrests and backrests, other passengers or trolleys (serving carts). My inquiry is that: Why don't I have to fasten my seatbelt on the train? Edited May 21 by Paris333 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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