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Tourists behaving badly: Locals protest for better respect
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If you are retired, does it bother you that you will never be a Thai Permanent Resident?
50,000 baht for the LTR visa. Ten year stamp in your passport. Have to go visit them at the 5 year mark to ensure you still meet the requirements for the program. Took me about a month from application to stamp in my passport. Was on the elite easy access before that. -
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Aside from your GF’s opinion: What makes you think you’re the last of the great lovers?
I'm dreadful at sex and don't care. I can't remember when I did it last. It's wonderful not having a sex drive. I like looking at pretty girls, but that's all I want or need. -
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Road Safety in Thailand – a summary of Perceptions and Reality
What this thread has shown is that people don't know much about road safety, can't assess their own driving skills and don't understand how to put forward an argument of present reasoned evidence because they don't know what it comprises of. Here are some of the challenges for foreign drivers in Thailand: Road Safety, Perception, and the Pitfalls and flaws of Anecdotal Experience Driving in a foreign country presents unique challenges, particularly when discussing road safety. Many foreign drivers in Thailand attempt to assess the country’s road safety using anecdotal experiences rather than empirical evidence. This leads to misconceptions, exaggerated fears, and resistance to statistical reasoning. Discussions on Thai road safety often descend into personal stories about "reckless" drivers, typically focused on four-wheeled vehicles, rather than considering broader patterns and statistical data. However, there are problems with anecdotal reasoning in road safety discussions and how human error and perception affect accident analysis. I would also consider the difficulties foreign drivers face when adapting to Thai road culture. First of all the flaws of anecdotal reasoning in road safety - Foreigners discussing Thai road safety often rely on personal observations rather than comprehensive data. A few common misconceptions include the use of anecdotes vs. data. Many foreigners assume four-wheeled vehicles are the primary source of danger. However, statistical analysis contradicts this. In Thailand, a person is actually less likely to die in a four-wheeled vehicle than in the USA. 80% of road deaths in Thailand involve vulnerable road users—motorcyclists, pedestrians, and cyclists, and 75% of all road deaths involve motorcycles, not cars or trucks. Then there is the misinterpretation of near-misses. Many anecdotes focus on "almost" accidents—stories full of "nearly," "almost," and "should have.". These do not actually reflect accident rates; they are subjective fears, not concrete data. A driver feeling unsafe does not necessarily indicate a statistically dangerous environment. When comparing Thailand’s roads to other countries, foreigners perceive them as uniquely chaotic, yet all countries have reckless drivers. Even nations with the lowest accident rates can provide videos of reckless driving. Measuring road safety requires comparative statistical analysis, not just individual experience. A big misunderstanding of crashes is the role played by human error. Most road crashes occur due to human error, yet many people misunderstand what this actually means. Many assume "reckless driving" is the main cause of accidents, but this is not the case, in reality, most crashes result from everyday mistakes like: o Distraction (e.g., adjusting the radio, checking a phone). o Fatigue or momentary lapses in attention. o Misjudging distances or speeds. o Microsleeps and delayed reaction times. o Misinterpretation of road conditions. Anecdotal evidence and when people actually see a crash occur leads to all sorts of problems, most notably rooted in the unreliability of eyewitness testimony. Many accident reports rely on eyewitness accounts, but human perception is highly flawed. Why? Because witnesses often: o Experience stress, which distorts memory. o Focus on selective details, missing the full context. o Have hindsight bias, where they remember events differently after knowing the outcome. This is why serious accident investigations use physical evidence and sometimes dashcam footage (but even this is subject to major distortions), not just personal testimonies. There are many challenges foreign drivers face in Thailand. Many foreign drivers struggle due to cognitive overload, misinterpretation of road culture, and unfamiliar infrastructure. This manifests as perceptual distortions and stress. Foreign drivers often get the illusion that traffic is moving faster than it really is. Thai roads often seem "chaotic" because lane discipline differs from Western norms. Informal signalling (horns, flashing lights) is has different subtexts and uses, largely influenced by th unwillingness to confront and the concept of Kreng Jai. Pedestrians and motorbikes move in ways that may seem unpredictable. However, Thai road users anticipate these behaviours, meaning they are in less dangerous than they appear. Road Signs and Subliminal Reactions Road signs in general work by Subliminal reactions (automatic responses to road signs), but may not work the same way for foreigners, leading to hesitation. Some foreigners misinterpret road signs even when they are in English. Traffic signals and road markings in Thailand are frankly appalling, they are inconsistent poorly located and often not fully visible. Traffic light rules are vague and different - Thailand uses countdown timers on traffic lights, which many foreigners are unfamiliar with. The occasional "turn left on red" rule confuses those used to stricter regulations. And no-one understands the priority on the left rule or what happens at roundabouts. It can be seen how many foreigners end up misjudging Thai driving behaviour, the result being they often mistakenly assume Thai drivers are rude or don't give way. In reality, things like vehicle positioning and road behaviour send different signals than in Western countries. Thai drivers avoid obstacles instinctively—swerving is common and anticipated, not reckless. The cultural value of "Kreng Jai" (avoiding confrontation) also influences driving behaviour, making open aggression rare. Another problem foreigner need to ovecome is the challenges of Thai Infrastructure, Unfamiliar road layouts like U-turns, new roundabouts, and complex interchanges cause confusion. Poor road markings (faded lines, inconsistent signage) add to navigation difficulties. Road engineering varies, making conditions unpredictable and inconsistent. All this leads to foreigners suffering from cognitive overload and fatigue.Processing new road rules, unfamiliar layouts, and unpredictable traffic causes mental exhaustion. Many foreign drivers don’t recognize their own fatigue, instead they resort to blaming other drivers for stress. So to truly understand road safety in Thailand one has to forget all those preconceptions brought from home and bring all one’s analytical skills to bear on a radically different driving environment; it requires a rational approach to road safety. We can see on this thread that foreigners often misjudge Thai road safety due to biases, anecdotal reasoning, and unfamiliarity. The personal experience they rely on is misleading—only statistics and data provide an accurate picture. Human error is the biggest factor in crashes, but it is often misunderstood. Perception, stress, and cognitive overload make adapting to Thai roads challenging, distorting foreign drivers’ judgments. Rather than relying on fear and anecdotes, a rational discussion on road safety must be based on evidence, comparative data, and an understanding of local driving culture. -
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If you are retired, does it bother you that you will never be a Thai Permanent Resident?
Bob, we've thought deeply about it. You’ve been banging on with this anti 90-day report crusade of yours like an old minger ever since you discovered you could rent two ladyboys for the price of one minge. You reckon it’s some massive infringement on your sovereignty? Mate, what about when they fingerprint you at the airport? Or when you hand over your home address to renew your driving license, get a pink ID card, or register a house book? You think the powers that be are sitting there scratching their arses, wondering where to find Bum-Burglar-Bob if they fancy popping by for a cuppa and a listen to your latest moan-fest? FFS, get a grip, bruv. If Thailand’s bureaucracy is that much of a burden on you then you could always do what you keep threatening to do and finally sod off to Spain. Oh wait… -
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Road Safety in Thailand – a summary of Perceptions and Reality
what book would that be? -
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Trump’s Proposal for Gazan Relocation makes perfect sense
Need to move on with what will happen in the future , rather than constantly repeating nonsense conspiracy theories (Which have all been discussed before numerous times)
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