Brewster67 Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 (edited) Those who seem to think the USA is militarily invincible have not studied the history of US performance in the art of war.... Fricken embarrassing and about to lose their proxy war in Ukraine. tut tut.... They don't even have hypersonic missiles and never will have them and those are the war winners. Russia, China, Iran and now even N Korea have hypersonics... 100% successm US HIMARS, ATACMS, British Storm Shadow and French Scalp, all being shot down by Russian air defences at least at a rate of 95%... That is an utter humiliation. Abrams tanks, Leopard 2 tanks, Challenger 2 tanks, Bradley IFVs all burning on the battlefield. All were called 'game changing wonder weapons'... They all turned out to be a complete joke. If the US launched a nuclear attack on any of the 4 above, most of those missiles will likely be shot out of the sky, but the same can't be said with a hypersonic missile.... For example the Avangard warhead in Russia's possession can hit speeds of up to Mach 30 and that's 37000 KPH... Good luck shooting those down. Edited May 23 by Brewster67 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 16 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said: A nuclear war is always possible as long as mad leaders like Putin , Kim Yong Un are in power and control of their autocratic regimes , Can happen anytime that one ignores the deadly consequences and decides to press the button .... for whatever reason ... But , I think that , after the Coronavirus , Scientists in isolated underground laboratories somewhere are busy creating a more lethal version of it that will be released when they think the time has come . The vaccine against that only available for the ' chosen few ' . It would be a cruel , but relatively clean way to get rid of the human overpopulation without destroying too much of the biosphere and keep the planet in a livable condition . Only that would mean that the present capitalistic , profit based system can be replaced by a system where robotic workforce and AI take care for the wellbeing of the survivors ... But , in the moment , a nuclear war is more probable . Thailand won't have a choice , just as any other country .. I do not think Putin is a madman, but a calculated smart intelligent patient dictator. The madman stuff is a label used for propaganda purposes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nobodysfriend Posted May 23 Popular Post Share Posted May 23 1 minute ago, Hummin said: I do not think Putin is a madman, but a calculated smart intelligent patient dictator. The madman stuff is a label used for propaganda purposes. Right , he is not mad , but he is evil . (Ukraine ) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, theblether said: Dropping the bombs was the best thing that ever happened to Japan. It saved millions of Japanese lives. As for the OP, get a grip on yourself. We're nowhere near nuclear war and even Putin has said it won't happen. The only way a nuke will be used is by a minor state, the major players have far too much to lose. Nixon was one of the first to mention the minor player risk. As for China. China cannot win any type of war against the USA and allies and they know it. They developed a gigantic Achilles Heel with the Three Gorges Dam, and a single cruise missile would wipe out around 80% of China's military capability. It would also kill 50 million Chinese and render around 400 million homeless. Some of your need to get off Twitter and actually read history and genuine world political analysis. China have time and being patient, thats not something we can label Usa with! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Just now, nobodysfriend said: Right , he is not mad , but he is evil . (Ukraine ) The world is an evil place, you forget evil is not only one sided. Even doing good for some, can be evil against others. The history is full of evil actions, also done by the west, it is just to many have short time memory. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brewster67 Posted May 23 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 23 5 minutes ago, Hummin said: I do not think Putin is a madman, but a calculated smart intelligent patient dictator. The madman stuff is a label used for propaganda purposes. The Americans are the mad ones, also Putin is no dictator... He won an election with 87% of the vote, those who came second got less than 5% with a record voter turnout and observed by representitives of over 80 countries worldwide to witness they were free and fair. In fact the US threatened some of the observers with sanctions if they attended, meaning the US did not want the elections to look legitimate. Meanwhile in the free and democratic USA, one side is trying to jail their opponent while students are being clubbed with batons for protesting the US involvement in genocide. While threatening to sanction everyuone in the International Court of Justice and the International Criminal Court. 3 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brewster67 Posted May 23 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 23 The USA will walk away from Ukraine in utter failure and leave Europe holding the bag. Like they did in Afghanistan leaving $90 billion of weapons for the Taliban and not even bothering to tell the Brits..... Lol 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 minute ago, Brewster67 said: The Americans are the mad ones, also Putin is no dictator... He won an election with 87% of the vote, those who came second got less than 5% with a record voter turnout and observed by representitives of over 80 countries worldwide to witness they were free and fair. In fact the US threatened some of the observers with sanctions if they attended, meaning the US did not want the elections to look legitimate. Meanwhile in the free and democratic USA, one side is trying to jail their opponent while students are being clubbed with batons for protesting the US involvement in genocide. While threatening to sanction everyuone in the International Court of Justice and the International Criminal Court. Can we agree Putin eliminated effectively any other candidate, and also with police, army, security made sure they voted on him? Thats a fact and not just western propaganda. It was a rigged election, therefor I can with right call him a dictator. I know the majority of russians believe Kremls propaganda, but we are also an victim of easy propaganda even we have socalled free press. But seriously, do you see any news with russians perspective being published? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hummin Posted May 23 Popular Post Share Posted May 23 2 minutes ago, Brewster67 said: The USA will walk away from Ukraine in utter failure and leave Europe holding the bag. Like they did in Afghanistan leaving $90 billion of weapons for the Taliban and not even bothering to tell the Brits..... Lol Remember this is the Russians who is the invaders, not Usa! Ukraine most likely will have to give up some land and new boarders will be settled, but Ukraine will not fall in hands of Russia, not tactical possible to hold. Ukraine will never be part of Nato, since the boarder conflicts will most likely never end, unless a new regime in Moscow. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewster67 Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 3 minutes ago, Hummin said: Can we agree Putin eliminated effectively any other candidate, and also with police, army, security made sure they voted on him? Thats a fact and not just western propaganda. It was a rigged election, therefor I can with right call him a dictator. I know the majority of russians believe Kremls propaganda, but we are also an victim of easy propaganda even we have socalled free press. But seriously, do you see any news with russians perspective being published? Can you please name who he eliminated?.... Don't say Navalny, even the west has now admitted that he died of a strokem also Navalny has already ran againstn Putin and got less than 1% of the vote... In fact his biggest electoral success was for Moscow mayor and he got about 7%.... He was political nobody and so never a threat to Putin. As for anyone else expelled from running all have close ties and therefore funding from the west usually through the New Endowment for Democracy, the funding wing of US regime change all around the world. They even do it here in Thailand. Also all these stupid rumours that he was a ruthless KGB agent responsible for assassinations... Hahaha.... He was a lawyer in the KGB, that's it... A pen pushing lawyer. Not exactly the person you send out on hits. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewster67 Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Hummin said: Remember this is the Russians who is the invaders, not Usa! Ukraine most likely will have to give up some land and new boarders will be settled, but Ukraine will not fall in hands of Russia, not tactical possible to hold. Ukraine will never be part of Nato, since the boarder conflicts will most likely never end, unless a new regime in Moscow. Putin was pushed to invade... In fact when he eventually did the west were rubbing their hands in glee... Then their proxy war totally fell to pieces. When they showed you the satellite images of Russian troop buildups on the border, they didn't show you the 160,000 NATO trained and armed Ukrainian troops assembled and ready to invade the Donbass and slaughter the ethnic Russians there and all on the orders of their western masters. NATO and EU membership was never on offer.... It was the carrot and the stick and whatever they have on Zelensky who is by the way a billionaire all of a sudden.... Not bad work for a second rate comedian. Oh and it also didn't help when Zelensky was running around the Munich Security Forum in December 2021 telling all the European leaders 'We are getting into NATO and we are getting nukes'.... Edited May 23 by Brewster67 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hummin Posted May 23 Popular Post Share Posted May 23 3 minutes ago, Brewster67 said: Can you please name who he eliminated?.... Don't say Navalny, even the west has now admitted that he died of a strokem also Navalny has already ran againstn Putin and got less than 1% of the vote... In fact his biggest electoral success was for Moscow mayor and he got about 7%.... He was political nobody and so never a threat to Putin. As for anyone else expelled from running all have close ties and therefore funding from the west usually through the New Endowment for Democracy, the funding wing of US regime change all around the world. They even do it here in Thailand. Also all these stupid rumours that he was a ruthless KGB agent responsible for assassinations... Hahaha.... He was a lawyer in the KGB, that's it... A pen pushing lawyer. Not exactly the person you send out on hits. oh man, where to begin, Do you really believe any president will have 87%? Is it technical possible? So where is the free press and oppossion? Every democrazy have oppossion who want to serve people and those who feel unjustified by government, something else is just no possible! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hummin Posted May 23 Popular Post Share Posted May 23 5 minutes ago, Brewster67 said: Putin was pushed to invade... In fact when he eventually did the west were rubbing their hands in glee... Then their proxy war totally fell to pieces. When they showed you the satellite images of Russian troop buildups on the border, they didn't show you the 160,000 NATO trained and armed Ukrainian troops assembled and ready to invade the Donbass and slaughter the ethnic Russians there and all on the orders of their western masters. NATO and EU membership was never on offer.... It was the carrot and the stick and whatever they have on Zelensky who is by the way a billionaire all of a sudden.... Not bad work for a second rate comedian. wow, wow, I dont think I will waste more time on you. Have a good evening. BTW, where are you located now? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scottiejohn Posted May 23 Popular Post Share Posted May 23 13 minutes ago, Hummin said: wow, wow, I dont think I will waste more time on you. Have a good evening. BTW, where are you located now? In a Russian asylum being told what to type I assume! 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven100 Posted May 23 Popular Post Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, Brewster67 said: It's over for the USA and that is why they are trying to start fires all over the place, oh Brewster, did you forget to take your medication today ... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 3 minutes ago, steven100 said: oh Brewster, did you forget to take your medication today ... Putin was a lawyer 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theblether Posted May 23 Popular Post Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, Brewster67 said: The American exceptionalist has spoken. I'm Scottish. My uncle was FEPOW and a famed founder member of the Burma Star organisation. I'll not take lessons on WW2 Japan from some inconsequential troll on the Internet. You've just been told straight why China will not launch a war against the USA. If you don't have the intellect to work that out what let me suggest a google search for you: "What would happen if the Three Gorges Dam burst" Here's the difference between me and you. I know what I am talking about. Many of you have lived long lives and never knew that an estimated 1 million Japanese soldiers died of malnutrition and disease related malnutrition. Many of you have lived long lives and never knew that 11 million Japanese were close to death through starvation. Many of you did not have a clue that the Three Gorges Dam is the biggest single geostrategic error in world history. Truman saved untold numbers of lives by dropping those bombs - and to paraphrase your witless attack - that made him an exceptional human for the right reasons. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, Brewster67 said: The USA will walk away from Ukraine in utter failure and leave Europe holding the bag. Like they did in Afghanistan leaving $90 billion of weapons for the Taliban and not even bothering to tell the Brits..... Lol Trump will. Gotta stop him. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Interesting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Monday Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) What side will India choose? No need to. Whatever happens, by straddling the fence Thailand will prove to have been a strong ally to whatever "side" prevails. Edited May 23 by Captain Monday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagoda Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, steven100 said: oh Brewster, did you forget to take your medication today ... I sort of figured there was an issue involved 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagoda Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 45 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Trump will. Gotta stop him. He will be reelected. Then what ya gonna do 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted May 23 Popular Post Share Posted May 23 14 minutes ago, Yagoda said: He will be reelected. Then what ya gonna do Resign myself to the USA becoming a fascist dictatorship like Russia. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 20 minutes ago, Yagoda said: He will be reelected. Then what ya gonna do Are you really sure you want that? He is coming for revenge. He is clear about what he want to do! He got private armies to support him! Just watched Against all enemies! Any comment of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kinnock Posted May 23 Popular Post Share Posted May 23 Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Belarus and Scotland will declare war on the rest of the world. Thailand will stay on the fence - trying to be a Tropical Switzerland. Then in all the chaos of war, China will invade Thailand through Myanmar and use the opportunity to complete the high speed railroad and the Rama II motorway. The mothballed aircraft carrier and engine-less sub will not even leave port, and the army will not resist on the condition they can take over all the police casinos. About 3 days into the war the French will surrender and Hungary will join with Russia. Around one week in - the West will run out of money and anti-war protesters will be used as an excuse for peace talks. The West will give up Ukraine and Taiwan .... and Thailand, Myanmar and Lao will remain under Chinese rule. The Chinese will relocate millions of Han Chinese into SE Asia to make it like the rest of China. Did I miss anything? 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin71 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 6 minutes ago, Kinnock said: Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Belarus and Scotland will declare war on the rest of the world. Thailand will stay on the fence - trying to be a Tropical Switzerland. Then in all the chaos of war, China will invade Thailand through Myanmar and use the opportunity to complete the high speed railroad and the Rama II motorway. The mothballed aircraft carrier and engine-less sub will not even leave port, and the army will not resist on the condition they can take over all the police casinos. About 3 days into the war the French will surrender and Hungary will join with Russia. Around one week in - the West will run out of money and anti-war protesters will be used as an excuse for peace talks. The West will give up Ukraine and Taiwan .... and Thailand, Myanmar and Lao will remain under Chinese rule. The Chinese will relocate millions of Han Chinese into SE Asia to make it like the rest of China. Did I miss anything? At last.. a well written intelligent and concise factual post... very refreshing... there are quite a few other posters on AN that could learn a thing or two.... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
save the frogs Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 57 minutes ago, Hummin said: Just watched Against all enemies! Any comment of it? Yeah, I do, even though you didn't ask me. Westerners cant detect propaganda and mind control fake docs like this one. Watch out for mind control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 50 minutes ago, save the frogs said: Yeah, I do, even though you didn't ask me. Westerners cant detect propaganda and mind control fake docs like this one. Watch out for mind control. Okay, so you know, obviously you do, and you are not western are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
save the frogs Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, Hummin said: Okay, so you know, obviously you do, and you are not western are you? sorry, about that video you linked, i was too hasty to judge it. just watched a clip. he says if there is a civil war in the us, it wont be 2 groups fighting, but certain groups causing chaos. he could be right about that. i am western. i just dont believe that most of the news is reliable to really understand whats going on. some people think they have the entire geopolitical globe figured out. good luck with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeRan Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Being someone that has travelled the world extensively, I have witnessed and also read that approximately 70% of the world’s population would like to see harm come to the US. The reasons are far and wide. They still believe they are the center of the universe and continue to upset much of the world. So when it comes to choosing sides for most Countries, I believe the answer is clear. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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