Physical Altercation Between Guards and Customers on Soi 6 in Pattaya Goes Viral

[Bangkok Barry]

3 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

You obviously failed to notice that those attempting murder are Thai. So send them back where?

And you failed to notice that the Farangs caused this brawl. Stupidity got it's price. 

No mercy!

And you failed to understand that the reaction for whatever caused it was a massive over-reaction, which as I write might have resulted in murder. But go on - support the thugs.  That says a lot about you, and many others who have blamed the victims of a vicious assault.

[Maitdjai]

10 minutes ago, ujayujay said:

Head kicks should be considered murder and punished with life imprisonment.

 

3 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Manslaughter at best.

The “Negotiator” again...

[jonclark]

1 minute ago, Gottfrid said:

The problem with my response in none at all. You should always have control, and never drink more than you can maintain your control. People that say they can´t have fun without being drunk have no clue about how life works. Ok, you do not have to understand culture and ways after only 14 days. However, you must be as smart as you understand how to not escalate a problem instead of screaming, acting aggressive and asking for a fight. That has actually not anything with culture to do. Just common sense, that these guys seem to have a severe lack of.

I do not need to repeat that I am not condoning what the guards did. I already explained that.

So you in your however many years of life have never got so drunk that you do stupid uncontrolled things?  

 

Not having a dig at you, but drunk or not, the security guards (thugs) are 100% in the wrong as a huge part of their job is to deal with drunk people and de-escalate the situation.  Even if the person being dealt with is screaming and being aggressive. de-escalate not make it worse. Come to Thailand for a good time - that is the message being sent out by TAT around the world. 

[Ctkong]

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

 

Singapore isn't in favor with Brit tourist hooligans, however. Why is that?

Singapore nightlife is so much tamer than Thailand so undesirables aren’t attracted to them. Moreover Singapore policing is so much more proactive ( especially in geylang red light areas) . Pundits or hooligans would get much more value for their money if they go to Thailand instead. Cheap food cheap booze and cheap puxxx . What could go wrong.? 

[Seppius]

I have said often, Thai males should not be anywhere around farang orientated girly bar nightlife scene

[Bday Prang]

2 minutes ago, jonclark said:

So you in your however many years of life have never got so drunk that you do stupid uncontrolled things?  

 

Not having a dig at you, but drunk or not, the security guards (thugs) are 100% in the wrong as a huge part of their job is to deal with drunk people and de-escalate the situation.  Even if the person being dealt with is screaming and being aggressive. de-escalate not make it worse. Come to Thailand for a good time - that is the message being sent out by TAT around the world. 

These thugs are not security guards or bouncers, just wrongun's     trouble makers earning a bit of cash in hand and just waiting for an opportunity to kick off.  The Thais refer to them as Nak Raeng   its not a compliment

[Pattaya57]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Security guards arrested after tourist assault in Pattaya
by Ryan Turner

...

 

The guards have admitted their involvement in the incident. Ball claimed he was initially assaulted by a tourist, which led to injuries requiring medical attention.

Despite this alleged provocation, the guards’ actions have been widely criticised as excessive, particularly since one guard was seen kicking a tourist in the head as he lay on the ground after being beaten.

Surely the author of this article watched the cctv which shows the bolded part to be a complete lie. Cctv clearly shows "Mr Ball" throwing the first punch and to mention he needed medical attention is a joke after his kicking of an unconscious man in the head (whereby no-one seems to know his victims medical condition)

[Bday Prang]

Just now, Pattaya57 said:

Surely the author of this article watched the cctv which shows the bolded part to be a complete lie. Cctv clearly shows "Mr Ball" throwing the first punch and to mention he needed medical attention is a joke after his kicking of an unconscious man in the head (whereby no-one seems to know his victims medical condition)

Mr ball got snotted twice during the melee,  couldn't have happened to a more deserving gentleman

[Gottfrid]

17 minutes ago, jonclark said:

So you in your however many years of life have never got so drunk that you do stupid uncontrolled things?  

 

Not having a dig at you, but drunk or not, the security guards (thugs) are 100% in the wrong as a huge part of their job is to deal with drunk people and de-escalate the situation.  Even if the person being dealt with is screaming and being aggressive. de-escalate not make it worse. Come to Thailand for a good time - that is the message being sent out by TAT around the world. 

Did you read the last line in my post. It agreed with you.

[Bday Prang]

10 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

(whereby no-one seems to know his victims medical condition)

They are keeping very tight lipped about his condition, Had he made a full recovery it would have been mentioned as part of the PR clean up , but the silence is indeed deafening,  I fear the worst and at the very least I expect him to be seriously injured

I just saw it on the lunchtime news  the 3 thugs apologised to Muang Pattaya with a wai as another member posted earlier. The news readers did condemn the attack , moreso than I expected to be honest

Edited May 27 by Bday Prang

[Bday Prang]

2 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

I will disregard this,

I thought you probably would, 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

16 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

well forgive me for not being able to recall anything that sweden can be particularly proud of

 

How about the inviting of hundreds of thousands of young men from an entirely incompatible culture, to (not) integrate into their small population; you know, the ones that have formed armed drugs gangs in every town, and have made Malmo the rape capital of Europe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Edited May 27 by Eloquent pilgrim

[Radar501]

From Khaosod English:

 

Three security guards who assaulted two foreign visitors admitted that their actions were excessive, raised their hands performing the “Wai” gesture, and apologized to Thai society for their actions.

 

Police case closed???   Nothing further to see here folks.

 

 

[Bangkok Barry]

5 minutes ago, Radar501 said:

From Khaosod English:

 

Three security guards who assaulted two foreign visitors admitted that their actions were excessive, raised their hands performing the “Wai” gesture, and apologized to Thai society for their actions.

 

Police case closed???   Nothing further to see here folks.

 

 

 

You forgot to read on to the end, or selectively chose what part of the article to post:

Pol. Lt. Col. Nawin Thirawit, Superintendent of Pattaya Police Station, said the police must proceed with legal action. He also reprimanded the suspects, stating that as security guards, their duty is to ensure the safety of tourists, not to cause trouble

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, Mike Teavee said:

From the video inside the bar & other commentary it looked like the guy in the black shirt (believe it was actually blue ) who looks like he's trying to calm it all down outside was actually the one who didn't pay his bill (Hence White shirt was adamant he'd already paid his & wouldn't pay again) & he was also the guy who shoved the other Farang outside. 

 

 

Yes.

I saw that, too.

Very unfortunate.

Those three Farang did not realize where they were.

They had no idea about Asia, or Thailand, or face, or the fact that Asians never back down once they reach some Tipping-Point, where face is lost.

 

Then, in the street, the guard gets hit in the nose, and damaged, in front of all his friends, when/where he wants to be perceived as the tough guy.

 

Then, some "girl" brings him a tissue to staunch the blood gushing from his nose.

Another major loss of face.

 

Then, it was pay-back time, BIG TIME.....

 

Bars such as those are dangerous.

Anything can happen, suddenly, and it did.

 

 

 

Edited May 27 by GammaGlobulin

[GammaGlobulin]

3 hours ago, steven100 said:

 

well we know for a fact it doesn't happen in Singapore that's for damn sure ....  harsher punishment for disturbing the peace there,  and i haven't ever heard of this trouble in KL.  

 

Doesn't (or didn't) happen in Taiwan, either.

 

[hotchilli]

1 hour ago, Irish star said:

Stay in your Monastery Father Ted 

And you keep your blinkers on.

[Peterphuket]

5 hours ago, Peterphuket said:

Those so-called guards are scum from ledge, may I say? Yes I can say that.
A few years in jail will do them good, what jerks.

Kicking against the head that can never be justified, surely it is natural to wish the head kicker jail time?
And then there are apparently people on this site who are confused. Are they headbangers too?

[Bangkok Barry]

14 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Nobody forced them to go there. It was voluntarily. And so they got voluntarily into this brawl.

Or did I miss something?

 

Go on. Dig your hole a little deeper. You are still supporting murderous thugs over the victims.

[Bday Prang]

37 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

How about the inviting of hundreds of thousands of young men from an entirely incompatible culture, to (not) integrate into their small population; you know, the ones that have formed armed drugs gangs in every town, and have made Malmo the rape capital of Europe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

following the appalling example set by the UK in such matters

[JackGats]

Imagine the police or security guard doing this to a black man in the US. The whole country would be in turmoil for weeks.

[Oliver Holzerfilled]

2 hours ago, bob smith said:

A bit like you then..

 

Bob.

That's a bit rich coming from you, Neil and Bob.

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Despite this alleged provocation, the guards’ actions have been widely criticised as excessive, particularly since one guard was seen kicking a tourist in the head as he lay on the ground after being beaten.

Hired thugs... 

[tubber]

2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

And what chance would those two stand when it all kicks off?  

Not much as we found out in Hua Hin a few years back when a 68 year old husband, his 65 year wife and 43 year old son were all kicked senseless.

[Peterphuket]

Throw them in jail for a few years, especially that headhunter. Scum

[Peterphuket]

2 minutes ago, tubber said:

Not much as we found out in Hua Hin a few years back when a 68 year old husband, his 65 year wife and 43 year old son were all kicked senseless.

We are not talking about playing football now.

[tubber]

1 hour ago, Gottfrid said:

No, absolutely nothing deserves a fatal kick to the head. Nothing can call for the way the gourds were acting, as they should have the training and mentality to handle things without violence or only subdue people if necessary until police arrives. I have never contested that. So, now you can stop with the verbal assault, by calling my out to be an absolute idiot.

But, yes, I knew, but not defending the outcome, that the Brits did not accept the way and culture, as they started to point and one actually wanted to fight with the guards. They walked around showing anger in public and where screaming. Basically doing everything to escalate the problem. They should have asked the bar to call the cops or continued to keep the argument and discussion on a decent level.

Have you seen anywhere that states they are actually British? I have only seen them referred to as tourists or customers.

[soalbundy]

2 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

What in the world are you talking about? Does that mean you consider taking a nice girl on a first date to a clam street filled with hookers?

It's probably where she works anyway.

[Rimmer]

Some troll posts have been removed also a quoted reply to one of them.

 

[Sticky Rice Balls]

6 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

I find it interesting that so many on this thread are blaming the victims

remember where you are friend 🙂