Trump found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records

[HappyExpat57]

Just now, Will B Good said:

Wow....huge win for the Don......every single person with a vote, voted for him....100% turnout as well.

First AND last time he'll win the popular vote, and this will put to rest whether he'll win in 2024.

 

(For those in the cult, that means he's going to lose.)

[BangkokReady]

13 hours ago, webfact said:

Donald Trump was convicted of falsifying business records to influence the 2016 presidential campaign

 

Was that what he was legally found guilty of?  Influencing the outcome of the election?

[Will B Good]

Just now, BangkokReady said:

 

Was that what he was legally found guilty of?  Influencing the outcome of the election?

Yep...tried to steal it....555

[Will B Good]

4 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

First AND last time he'll win the popular vote, and this will put to rest whether he'll win in 2024.

 

(For those in the cult, that means he's going to lose.)

Well he's never won it before....so keep trying I guess.

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, paddypower said:

Pathetic come-back. '' at the Supreme Court'', (which he owns).. ? of course he will be found innocent, just like one of Trumps famous wins at his one-man golf tournaments (which he owns).

as opposed the the dem owned court/jury  that just found him guilty now! 

[Roo Island]

50 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Facts aren't your friends, either...

Two impeachment acquittals...

Thirty four convictions that will be overturned...

No "rape" conviction...

No fraud conviction.

So you are ok with all the bs he's done? Classified documents. Election interference. Still to come. Potentially...

 

No matter how you cut it, he's dodgy. More lawsuits against him than almost any other individual. Stunning anyone supports such a liar and con man

[transam]

Just now, Roo Island said:

So you are ok with all the bs he's done? Classified documents. Election interference. Still to come. Potentially...

 

No matter how you cut it, he's dodgy. More lawsuits against him than almost any other individual. Stunning anyone supports such a liar and con man

100% correct........

[BangkokReady]

12 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

C'mon, you know better than that. You're not stupid.

 

It's hard to know.  I'm not familiar with the American penal code, and I know the left lies like crazy about Trump.  🤷‍♂️

[tgw]

1 minute ago, Roo Island said:

So you are ok with all the bs he's done? Classified documents. Election interference. Still to come. Potentially...

 

No matter how you cut it, he's dodgy. More lawsuits against him than almost any other individual. Stunning anyone supports such a liar and con man

 

it also says a lot about the people who continue to support him.

[Roo Island]

4 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

It's hard to know.  I'm not familiar with the American penal code, and I know the left lies like crazy about Trump.  🤷‍♂️

Name the lies...or bs

[Walker88]

55 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Facts aren't your friends, either...

Two impeachment acquittals...

Thirty four convictions that will be overturned...

No "rape" conviction...

No fraud conviction.

Wrong.

 

First, it's pure speculation on your part his felony convictions (34) will be overturned.

 

Elsewhere, he is a convicted sex offender (civil case)

He is a convicted charity fraudster and is barred from starting a charity, as are his children

He is a convicted bank fraudster (civil)

He is a convicted insurance fraudster (civil)

Yesterday's felony convictions involved fraud, too, so he is owner of lots of fraud convictions, civil and now criminal.

[Presto]

1 minute ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Trump tax cuts for the wealthy grows the debt, fool. Try google if you really want to list the accomplishments.

But MAGA only believe his lies

You might want to have a look at some statistics. Trump added 7.8 trillion during his four years, Biden will add c. 7.6 trillion. Biden had a budget deficit every single year. Just look it up, it's not hard.

[Walker88]

10 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

as opposed the the dem owned court/jury  that just found him guilty now! 

Dem owned?

 

Can I see the copy of the sales receipt, maybe the deed?

 

LOL...trumpers!

[Walker88]

1 minute ago, Presto said:

You might want to have a look at some statistics. Trump added 7.8 trillion during his four years, Biden will add c. 7.6 trillion. Biden had a budget deficit every single year. Just look it up, it's not hard.

The convicted felon added $8,400,000,000,000 in new National Debt.

 

In Biden's first year he dropped $350 billion off the convicted felon's last year of debt, and $1.3 trillion in FY 2022.

 

Because of the convicted felon's profligacy, inflation sprang up and required the Fed to raise rates ~380 pips. On the convicted felon's debt alone, that adds nearly $1 billion per year in servicing costs, and thus the yearly deficit.

[charleskerins]

3 hours ago, Presto said:

The Garland DOJ handles these cases very differently. In 2021 Ms Lavarello was sentenced to three months in jail pretty quickly and efficiently, Trump was approached with hat in hand, please Mr President, give us those classified documents, essential to national security, back? Please?

That took a year and a half. And still DOJ doesn't know that is has everything back, and certainly doesn't know what has been done with those documents in all those years. Apparently national security is less important than they would make us believe.

I would have scanned them, put them on a microSD as big as a fingernail, and sold them to whoever is willing to pay a big price.

But I'm not American.

I did not know about her -thanks.  Garland was a huge mistake   he's not up to the task.  My choice was Sally Yates  but I'm not the President.

[Hanaguma]

2 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

I do not agree.  Biden IMO has achieved many accomplishments. True, his age has him facing strong concerns.

The bottom line is he alone can beat Trump. I put my pants on one leg at a time.

I disagree. If Biden had not saddled himself with Harris as VP, he would have been gone. I think that was the assumption anyway in 2020- he was the steady hand needed during the pandemic. Then he would gracefully hand over power to the next generation. Too late now though. 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

16 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

i hope you are not talking about me. please tell me you aren't. when talking about people making themselves look stupid you might want to use correct spelling.

 

just saying. 

LOL - what a dope - who has had too much dope - you know why they call it dope? 

[gravity101]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

They will be, that is a fact.

Wow you should be on Trumps legal team with a conviction like that. Pun intended.

[stoner]

5 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

LOL - what a dope - who has had too much dope - you know why they call it dope? 

 

ok strange guy.

[Bangkok Barry]

 

So, so many posts in this thread that have absolutely no relevance to his court conviction.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

Just now, Bangkok Barry said:

 

So, so many posts in this thread that have absolutely no relevance to his court conviction.

But they mostly stem from that occurance. 

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Sentencing is going to be very interesting. Trump has hardly endeared himself by accusing the judge of being corrupt, calling his trial rigged and a witch hunt, refusing to accept the verdict of the jury who agreed his guilt so quickly it caught everyone by surprise, continuing to refuse to acknowledge that he did anything wrong at all. No humility, no apology, only ranting against the American legal system and the judge that will sentence him. He just can't keep his ignorant mouth shut, and he is going to pay for that.

I'm not as certain as some he will not be given a prison sentence. I believe it's up to the convicted felon and how he behaves between now and the sentencing date.

 

If he mouths off, continues to violate the gag order (in effect until the sentencing date, I believe), doxxes jurors, or other nasty things of which he is not only capable, but prone to do, I think a prison sentence is possible.

 

On his side he has 'no previous record' of criminal, though not civil, convictions, and the victims of his crime are somewhat amorphous (the entire United States of America). Working against him is his continual violation of the gag order, a total absence of remorse, and the fact an underling served time for doing his bidding in the carrying out of the crime for which he was convicted. If Michael Cohen had to serve 13 months and 51 days in solitary for the crime, it seems only fair the ringleader should also have to pay the price.

 

As a side note, the old geezer looks to have aged 10 years in the last year. I don't think he's been hitting the gym and the salad bar. He looks like death warmed over. It would come as no surprise if he passed between now and November. Of course that would lead to another conspiracy theory about "Biden operatives" taking him out. Then again, maybe the Supreme Court will rule before November that Presidents are totally immune from prosecution, which means Biden would be free to do the needful.

[G_Money]

 

You think it’s over?  Think again.

Trump getting a fair trial in lower Manhattan is like Joe getting a fair trial in Eagle Pass , Texas.

 

 

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[0ffshore360]

2 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Really interesting interview:

Kaitlan Collins asked Todd Blanche if he regrets not having Trump take the stand. Hear his response.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5dHFcyRG94

 

Blanche seemed to get uncomfortable with that question. Almost as if he was avoiding saying that the legal team advice was "OMG ! Please please  nooooooo! "

[Walker88]

19 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

I disagree. If Biden had not saddled himself with Harris as VP, he would have been gone. I think that was the assumption anyway in 2020- he was the steady hand needed during the pandemic. Then he would gracefully hand over power to the next generation. Too late now though. 

The Dems have no bench, while the Repubs lack both a bench and starters.

[0ffshore360]

I have to admit that Trump may have found a legal rep that although has failed to achieve acquittal or even a reduction in findings over charges  at least comes across as a genuine legal defender as opposed to a mafioso styled complicit  like Jeweliani or Hurling Barbi or even Cohan when he was on the perp's team.

He's  doing his task as prescribed, insists  he is  getting paid  ( up front? ) but not overly demonstrating devotion to "The Man" but commitment to the task.

I doubt he realistically believes Trump possesses any genuine innocence in the numerous charges he is faced with but as a professional legal rep will present best defense in capability.

If nowt else it will  save him from any obvious need to become "turncoat" as is being suggested  Rudy W. Giuliani

is doing . Or "flipping" in US terminology.

[JonnyF]

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump was removed from office by a fair and democratic election.

 

Trump was indicted by a Grand Jury,

Trump has been convicted by a jury of his pears in open court.

 

If you have evidence that the Jury did not give right and proper consideration to the evidence and testimony presented in court, let’s be having it.

 

 

 

This conviction will be the biggest own goal since Hillarys deplorables speech 

 

Mark my words.

 

 

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[Chomper Higgot]

16 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

This conviction will be the biggest own goal since Hillarys deplorables speech 

 

Mark my words.

 

And don't forget to "pin it" for an extra post on your account and similar embarrassment following your UK election date prediction. 

 

I see yet another username in your future..

I’ll ’pin that’ along with your hard earned record of misinformed nonsense.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

as opposed the the dem owned court/jury  that just found him guilty now! 

You made that up.

 

Provide a link that the Democrats own the court and jury.

 

Or delete your post.

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

"The order does not restrict Trump's statements about Merchan and Bragg."

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/what-does-gag-order-mean-trumps-hush-money-case-2024-04-12/

Insulting the judge who has the power to sentence Trump to prison may not violate the gag order, but it sure is stupid.