6 hours ago, mstevens said:

When there are so many wonderful, relationship-minded women in Thailand, why would you even consider dating or, God forbid, marrying a hooker?

What is the difference between a hooker with 100 different men and a non hooker with 100 different men, other than the hooker did it for money the non hooker because she likes a man between her legs

IMHO

5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And then there is the big question of what is the big difference between bar girls and "normal" girls.

Big difference between bar girls and women of previous generations maybe.

But not that much of a difference with most modern women.

Most modern women do not have the DNA of good wife / good mother. 

Swiping on dating apps for the guy with the fattest wallet. Modern dating is a cesspool. 

 

 

Once a wh0re, always a wh0re.

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13 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

Maybe there aren't always physical "mileage" issues and I agree that "morality" issues are very subjective and relative, but character issues do give me pause.  Especially if the process of extracting money from clients goes beyond a quid pro quo exchange of sexual favors for money and gets into the realm of manipulating sometimes multiple guys at a time to fork over monthly stipends, feigning compatibility (up to you), making empty happily-ever-after promises in order to get them to build homes and buy land registered in her name, or fabricating hard-luck stories, etc., etc. Then you're talking about whether they can be trusted, and in some cases, an almost sociopathic lack of empathy is required on her part to successfully pull off the charade.

Yes, you are right. But...

 

I think with most bargirls it is a straightforward transaction. You pay x, she does y. And after some time, you realize if you also want z, you better ask her before you make a deal.

 

And then there are the guys who fall in love with a girl. Or maybe they think they want to rescue her. Maybe a guy comes for holiday to Thailand, and he spends two weeks with one girl. All is fine. And then it's time for him to go home and then he thinks about what she will do tomorrow, and next week. And he doesn't like that. So, he suggests to her that maybe he could help her out so that she does not have to work in the bar. The girl likes that. He is happy that he rescued her. And she is happy that she gets extra money. And maybe she actually does not go with another guy for a week. And then she gets bored. And she meets the guy again who saw her 6 months ago. So why not, just a little, nobody knows. And then maybe that guy also wants to pay her not to work...

I am pretty sure in many cases the guys are the initiators of those regular payment agreements. Do you really expect from the girls to tell them: No, keep your money, I will anyhow f around. He doesn't want to hear that, and she doesn't want to tell him. So, she just says thank you, you are such a good guy, I only think about you...

Win/win - until he discovers that his dream didn't match reality. 

 

 

7 hours ago, AventurasEnMadrid said:

I know this topic is somewhat cliché but I am wondering if there are success stories of men who have married or had serious relationships with bar girls or prostitutes. Has anyone been able to feel like their former prostitute girlfriend/ wife truly left this life behind if they were only doing it out of necessity and make a good and honest girlfriend/wife? I am sure some responses will be horror stories and that is understandable but I am especially interested in hearing about success stories. Thank you.

Let me tell you in short my experience, it starts more than 25 years ago, yes I met a hooker from Thailand in Europe, and stays a few years with her In the longer term in Thailand, I felt cheated, and after several times on/off, definitely drew a line under it, yes with sadness.
There after again met a hooker in Phuket whom I now live with for more than 15 years, to the great satisfaction of both sides.
So it can go right, it can go wrong.

But I should mention the cultural differences remain and are sometimes difficult.

2 hours ago, bob smith said:

care to share?

 

bob.

dear bob.  you'd just make me go back and dredge up some cherry 'bobism' quotes from the past.  those of us here know you well.  you are.....entertaining.  💗

22 minutes ago, Almer said:

What is the difference between a hooker with 100 different men and a non hooker with 100 different men, other than the hooker did it for money the non hooker because she likes a man between her legs

IMHO

 

Some time ago I saw an interview with an Arab guy. They talked about women and the Arab guy said they had a word for prostitute and another word for a slut (a woman who goes with many guys without payment).

Both words were swearwords if you wanted to insult someone.

The funny part is that prostitute was the milder version of a swearwords, slut was a very strong swearwords.

And the explanation was/is: If she has to go with many men to make money to live, then she does that because she has no other choice. But if she doesn't have to do it and still goes with many men, then she is obviously someone really undesirable.

I found that very interesting. 

 

1 hour ago, Kinnock said:

Would be interesting to know how many men who regularly use prostitutes make good husbands.

 

Asking for a friend.

Excellent - thank you.  You just nailed it! 

40 minutes ago, Almer said:

When there are so many wonderful, relationship-minded women in Thailand, why would you even consider dating or, God forbid, marrying a hooker?

For Farang gals:

When there are so many wonderful, relationship-minded men in Thailand, why would you even consider dating or, God forbid, marrying a - "John"?

Btw - most Thai men, i.e. in Western vernacular - Johns - frequent Pay4Play establishments or have gigs/mai-nois.  Especially the ones higher up on the social ladders.  Oh, and then the farang guys who visit Thailand as tourists?  Do you get an STD test before you go back to your Western girlfriends and wives?  How about you fellas living here in Thailand who love that word, "Whore," and yet have indulged in the P4P scene while living with your Thai or farang wife here in Thailand.  'eh Johns? 

Again - we're literally knee-deep in Western male hypocrisy.  🤮   John's your uncle, 'eh boys?

who wants to be sloppy 3000th man....

19 minutes ago, john donson said:

who wants to be sloppy 3000th man....

 

 

 

Thai women do not have morals so be on alert if they found you "nice" and they want to date with you!

You are a "golden fish" as a foreigner for Thais and they are searching for "usufull idiots".

19 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

 

 

Stop on by and we'll make it 23! 

26 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

 

 

I bet dad is proud. 

This is the result of poor parenting. 

 

I'm happy for the boyfriend who escaped this whore. 

 

These western females, sex is just a bodily function. 

 

Thai woman have sex for money to support their families, nothing wrong with that, they have a commodity I need, I have money they want, it's a win, win. 

 

22 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

 

 

I'm sure if Reverend Simon Sideways makes it to Bangkok he'll be out trolling Soi Cowboy until his Johnson is close to falling off.  How do I know this?  He's a man.  Men are promiscuous. 

"But this woman is - a whore!!!"

I'm a man too.  Back in the day if I could have banged 22 gals in 10 days?  Sure - sign me up.  Most men who admit to being men probably would.  As I said, men are promiscuous.  It's genetically baked in.

"I'd never do it.  Grrrr!  And I'd never have sex with the gal on Youtube either."

Of course you wouldn't.  I bet you don't choke your chicken either.  <laughs>

4 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I bet dad is proud. 

This is the result of poor parenting. 

 

I'm happy for the boyfriend who escaped this whore. 

 

These western females, sex is just a bodily function. 

 

Thai woman have sex for money to support their families, nothing wrong with that, they have a commodity I need, I have money they want, it's a win, win. 

 

How many "whores" have you banged in Thailand.  Be honest now! 

36 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

 

 

Can't say it really bothers me, I don't tell them about my past, and I don't ask them about their past.

You gotta move with the times, we aren't living in Victorian Britain!

9 hours ago, mstevens said:

When there are so many wonderful, relationship-minded women in Thailand, why would you even consider dating or, God forbid, marrying a hooker?

 

Just spit-balling here, but it could be some of these: easy to find, they're happy to make the first move, presumably they're perceived as being good at sex and always willing, misplaced feelings of "saving" her, maybe younger and hotter than the guy could get through normal channels too.

16 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I bet dad is proud. 

I bet Dad is jealous.

Met on a Tuesday, married that Friday....18 years ago.....hardly spent a day apart.

7 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

with most Thai women doing some sort of sex work at some point of their lives.

Well, the women you have come into contact with, maybe.  Your spurious, defamatory claim about Thai women is nonsense (unless you have some evidence) and contravenes the forum rules. 

7 hours ago, JoseThailand said:

 

 

How was she able to get to London, as a poor single 19yo mother from Thailand?

She was doing cashier work 🤣

2 hours ago, connda said:

in Western vernacular - Johns -

US vernacular.

1 hour ago, Paris333 said:

they are searching for "usufull idiots".

"usufull idiots".

I'm guessing that at least one of them found you, then.

5 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Every time I go to Thailand I date bargirls or prostitutes but I havent found the right one to marry. Ive been doing it for 30 plus years so I guess IM not very sucessful

Practice makes perfect

and

try try again.

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Well, the women you have come into contact with, maybe.  Your spurious, defamatory claim about Thai women is nonsense (unless you have some evidence) and contravenes the forum rules. 

 

This guy appears to be wearing 3 inch thick rose tinted spectacles.  He made another comment about how lovely Thai people are and how bad foreigners are.  He's very much in the honeymoon phase and is probably experiencing a lot of cognitive dissonance on this topic, due to his wife to be apparently being a prostitute.  Of course he needs to believe that most women in Thailand are prostitutes and that people respect women who do it.  How could he cope with anything different?

 

Some real "creative writing" here:

 

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The culture is different here than in the west and she is highly respected for “taking care” of her family. And sex work is not frowned upon like in the West, with most Thai women doing some sort of sex work at some point of their lives. A lot of them are good girls who don’t even drink alcohol. My girl doesn’t have tattoos and thinks they are “dirty”.

 

9 hours ago, JoseThailand said:

 

Even 7-11 girls do that occasionally

 

Even 7-11 girls?  Wow.  If even they do it, then everyone must, huh?  🙄

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

contravenes the forum rules. 

Oh no. Another one. Are you friends with young Richard?

This thread is about dating and marrying Thai prostitutes right?

 

Have you ever done it Lou? And how many on this forum haven’t ever been with a Thai female?
They are famous around the world.

Dont be so woke. 

 

34 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Even 7-11 girls?  Wow.  If even they do it, then everyone must, huh?  🙄

Low salary girls all need a bit of extra cash to get through the month.