Just now, susanlea said:

So much mudslinging. No policy talk.

That's kinda the GOPs thang, isn't it? 

1 minute ago, mikebike said:

That's kinda the GOPs thang, isn't it? 

Not for those watching. 

Just now, susanlea said:

Not for those watching. 

Hmmm... Policy. How effective has the current, GOP, Congress been? 

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/12/21/1221040449/118th-congress-to-be-the-most-unproductive-in-decades#:~:text=118th Congress to be the most unproductive in decades %3A NPR&text=118th Congress to be the most unproductive in decades The,the least productive in decades.

Tough to be productive when u r chasing X likes. 😓

2 minutes ago, mikebike said:

Hmmm... Policy. How effective has the current, GOP, Congress been? 

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/12/21/1221040449/118th-congress-to-be-the-most-unproductive-in-decades#:~:text=118th Congress to be the most unproductive in decades %3A NPR&text=118th Congress to be the most unproductive in decades The,the least productive in decades.

They are waiting for decent policies. Joe has none.

I'm going to give it a pass.  Essentially it's a circus: entertainment with little substance.  If this was a serious debate then the third-party candidates would have a voice.  But they don't.  So two over-the-hill geriatrics (one a basketcase, the other an ass) get to have a go at each other in a highly staged and controlled setting.

No thanks.  I'd rather watch this:

15 hours ago, SoCal1990 said:

Here are the unpleasant spewings we can expect from the sweaty <removed> based on past debates from 2016 and 2020: 

 

- Aggressive and confrontational

- Unintellectual speech patterns

- Childish use of inappropriate insults

- Focus only on soundbites and avoid providing and substantive data

- Evade giving any direct answers

- Try to appeal to people’s emotions and populism rather than facts and figures

- Ridiculous questioning of opponents legitimacy 

 

Did I leave anything out? 

Other than that. All very civilised and honest.😉

3 minutes ago, susanlea said:

They are waiting for decent policies. Joe has none.

You DO understand that it is Congress which directs legislation, not the prez, right? 

C-I-V-I-C-S. 

 

E-D-U-C-A-T-I-O-N

 

What the heck people... 

48 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Joe can't walk 100m unassisted. That is fact. Sad to see him stumble so much. He can barely walk.

FDR was in a wheelchair. 

 

Next

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1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

FDR was in a wheelchair. 

 

Next

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Did he use giant teleprompters as well? No

Did he forget lots of things? No

 

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What puzzles me is the Biden haters.

 

Anyone who actually took the time to listen to his State of the Union address would know he was articulate, with clear facts and messages. Except perhaps the dyed in the wool MAGA supporters.

 

It hurts my ears to listen to Trump. The slurs, non-sequiturs and downright nonsense that spews forth during his speeches and posts on Truth Social - perhaps the ultimate oxymoron - is an offence against rationality.

 

IMO Biden wiped the floor with Trump in 2020. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump squibbed it, just like he did taking the witness stand in NY.

9 minutes ago, mikebike said:

You DO understand that it is Congress which directs legislation, not the prez, right? 

So when will the Democrats come up with something good? 

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

time to listen to his State of the Union address would know he was articulate,

A speech read off a giant teleprompter and written by other people. Nobody should be impressed by that.

8 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Did he use giant teleprompters as well? No

Did he forget lots of things? No

 

Next

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Why does the size of the teleprompter concern you so much? 

 

Otherwise, yes, he forgot his own surgeons name. 

15 hours ago, RSD1 said:

I prefer presidential candidates who are not convicted rapists and criminal felons.  

Same here and let's not forget...liar, cheater, con-man, thief❗🤮

3 minutes ago, susanlea said:

So when will the Democrats come up with something good? 

You also understand that Johnson is Speaker of the House because the GOP control the HoR, right?

1 minute ago, mikebike said:

Why does the size of the teleprompter concern you so much? 

Why have a President if they can't think for themselves and need a giant teleprompter to read speeches written by others? A robot could do that.

15 hours ago, SoCal1990 said:

Here are the unpleasant spewings we can expect from the sweaty <removed> based on past debates from 2016 and 2020: 

 

- Aggressive and confrontational

- Unintellectual speech patterns

- Childish use of inappropriate insults

- Focus only on soundbites and avoid providing and substantive data

- Evade giving any direct answers

- Try to appeal to people’s emotions and populism rather than facts and figures

- Ridiculous questioning of opponents legitimacy 

 

Did I leave anything out? 

Does this refer to Biden or Trump ?

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

What puzzles me is the Biden haters.

 

Anyone who actually took the time to listen to his State of the Union address would know he was articulate, with clear facts and messages. Except perhaps the dyed in the wool MAGA supporters.

 

It hurts my ears to listen to Trump. The slurs, non-sequiturs and downright nonsense that spews forth during his speeches and posts on Truth Social - perhaps the ultimate oxymoron - is an offence against rationality.

 

IMO Biden wiped the floor with Trump in 2020. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump squibbed it, just like he did taking the witness stand in NY.

Agree 💯 %❗

Just now, mikebike said:

You also understand that Johnson is Speaker of the House because the GOP control the HoR, right?

So it's his fault the Democrats have no worthwhile policies? Right

2 minutes ago, susanlea said:

So it's his fault the Democrats have no worthwhile policies? Right

No. It's his job to introduce those policies. Civics. Education. 

2 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Does this refer to Biden or Trump ?

If you truly don't know immediately...then you are beyond ever knowing anything. 

 

8 hours ago, save the frogs said:

to be fair, every single presidential debate in history gets like that.

but that's one of many reasons I never watch them anymore.

maybe trump is worse and more over the top than others though.

Maybe❗❓🤣

12 minutes ago, mikebike said:

Why does the size of the teleprompter concern you so much? 

 

Otherwise, yes, he forgot his own surgeons name. 

Yes Joe has had no issues with memory 

Just now, susanlea said:

Yes Joe has had no issues with memory 

They both do. Grandad v Peepaw. 

1 hour ago, susanlea said:

Are you aware Joe is unfit for office? Mentally, physically not up to it. Obama had to walk him off the stage recently. 

Have you ever heard of president Roosevelt?

So you are saying people who can not walk are useless?

You are really making an impression here!

27 minutes ago, susanlea said:

They are waiting for decent policies. Joe has none.

Except for having ACTUAL record unemployment, record high stock market results, return of jobs from overseas, passed a border control bill which the Trumpeteers promptly quashed, etc. ad nauseum.

Just a wonder how so many can apparently survive while living under a self imposed rock.

1 minute ago, Kwaibill said:

Except for having ACTUAL record unemployment, record high stock market results, return of jobs from overseas, passed a border control bill which the Trumpeteers promptly quashed, etc. ad nauseum.

Just a wonder how so many can apparently survive while living under a self imposed rock.

None of which is true though.