Trump's pick of JD Vance a hopefully fatal mistake for his maga fascist movement

[Jingthing]

Trump still in a state of shock from the flesh wound on his ear foolishly listened to his epically obnoxious blowhard son Don Jr. and went with J.D. Vance over a more sensible choice who would have actually helped him.

 

OOPS!

Trump made a BOO BOO.

 

Vance brings nothing to the ticket electorally.

Vance has almost no political experience.

Vance has the speaking charisma of damp rag.

Vance did a full 180 degree turn from Trump is Hitler to Trump is God.

The people smell a total opportunist phony and the people are right. 

Vance was bought by billionaires Theil and Musk to further their radical extremist anti democracy agenda.

Vance got a job in tech with zero qualifications based on Theil getting him in.

Vance in his wretched venture capital "career" backed just one company.

That one company went bankrupt.

Batting average -- 000

Vance was an ideological choice with the idea of having a Trump mini me who could project maga fascism well into the future after Trump fulfilling the idea of a fascist maga REICH as referenced in their propaganda literature.

Vance has even more unpopular extremist views than Trump on issues like abortion. 

The horrible for Trump mistake of the Vance pick was done when he arrogantly thought he was running against Biden with the expectation of a historic landslide sweeping in maga fascism without any resistance left in congress and certainly not SCOTUS.

Well, folks, happily, he messed up BIGLY!

Turns out Trump isn't quite the teflon God many of you thought he was.

No I am not saying 100 percent that Harris will beat Trump.

But it's starting to look pretty pretty good as far as her chances especially considering there is no chance she will be as stupid as Trump with her VP pick. 

 

 

 

 

 

[brewsterbudgen]

Surely Trump will have to dump him and go for Nicky Haley instead?  Either way, things are looking up for November.  

[Jingthing]

9 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Surely Trump will have to dump him and go for Nicky Haley instead?  Either way, things are looking up for November.  

I don't see how he can dump him now.

Has that ever happened in American history after a convention before the election?

I don't think so.

Perhaps he can be persuaded to exit in order to spend more time with this family 

...

in India.

[Jingthing]

Childless cat ladies!

I reckon its no coincidence that both maga fascists and Putin are both attacking childless people now.

 

 

 

[TedG]

@Jingthing Why do you call the movement fascist?  Let’s talk about this. 

[Danderman123]

12 minutes ago, TedG said:

@Jingthing Why do you call the movement fascist?  Let’s talk about this. 

Ever heard of Project 2025?

[Danderman123]

Getting back on topic, the choice of JD Vance seems to be fairly disasterous. Notably, the Trumpers here are very quiet about him.

[TedG]

34 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Ever heard of Project 2025?

Yes I have.  This is your chance to tell me why it’s fascist. 

[Captain Monday]

He called father of twins Pete Buttigieg “childless”. This was said on purpose. Deliberately to demean and dismiss the existence and validity of his family. Vance is  a very nasty person. Not a stupid person. 

[alanrchase]

Impossible. Trump only picks the best people. How do I know that? Trump said so.

[nobodysfriend]

Many posters on this forum were against Kamala Harris , ( the laughing Hyena ) , where are they now ?

She can beat Trump , and even Trump will know this .

Now , they ( Trump team ) are all busy to find her weak spots to be able to attack her ... but what if she has none ...?

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/24/media/right-wing-media-kamala-harris-dei-race-attacks/index.html

 

Right-wing media figures target Kamala Harris with race and gender-based attacks

. " Over the last 48 hours, Harris has been derided as a radical California liberal; she has been smeared as a “DEI” candidate; she has been denigrated as a “mistress” for her previous relationship with former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown, even though it occurred after Brown was separated from his wife and was not a secret; she has been ridiculed for her laugh and described as unlikeable; she has been characterized as having been too tough on crime as a prosecutor, but also pro-illegal immigration; she has had her candidacy labeled a “coup”; and she has been subjected to commentators mocking even the pronunciation of her name, among other things. "

 

The possible outcome of the November elections has shifted dramatically since her nomination .

Now it is young against old , experienced state prosecutor against experienced felon .

MAFA - make america fair again .

[Danderman123]

6 hours ago, TedG said:

Yes I have.  This is your chance to tell me why it’s fascist. 

Do you support Project 2025?

 

 

[Danderman123]

1 minute ago, nobodysfriend said:

Many posters on this forum were against Kamala Harris , ( the laughing Hyena ) , where are they now ?

She can beat Trump , and even Trump will know this .

Now , they ( Trump team ) are all busy to find her weak spots to be able to attack her ... but what if she has none ...?

The possible outcome of the November elections has shifted dramatically since her nomination .

Now it is young against old , experienced state prosecutor against experienced felon .

MAFA - make america fair again .

The nature of the contest has changed, but it's too early to know overall support for Kamala Harris. Give it another month.

 

My guess is she will be 2 points down after the Dem convention.

[Danderman123]

6 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

He called father of twins Pete Buttigieg “childless”. This was said on purpose. Deliberately to demean and dismiss the existence and validity of his family. Vance is  a very nasty person. Not a stupid person. 

Is Vance still on the ticket? I haven't checked yet today.

[nobodysfriend]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

but it's too early to know overall support for Kamala Harris.

 

The fact that after her nomination , 81 million bucks have been donated to the dems within just a few hours , is a good indicator ...?

[mfd101]

Either one can make a big mistake.

 

Would Trump ditching Vance help? Mmmm, maybe but not a good look all round. Makes Trump look vulnerable. And Trump not good with women ... will struggle to get the tone right in a debate.

 

Can La Harris get thru the next few weeks without a big boo-boo? (A cackle in the wrong place, crumbling before a policy onslaught from a hostile interviewer, doesn't perform well in the grand debate if there is one ... ). So far she's looking really good and ticking all the boxes - younger, energetic, coloured, female etc. She now needs a state governor (younger white male) to balance out the platform and I think she's looking good for a win in November.

[Skipalongcassidy]

3 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

Either one can make a big mistake.

 

Would Trump ditching Vance help? Mmmm, maybe but not a good look all round. Makes Trump look vulnerable. And Trump not good with women ... will struggle to get the tone right in a debate.

 

"I was wrong about him," Vance told CNN in May. "I didn't think he was going to be a good president. And I was very, very proud to be proven wrong. It's one of the reasons why I'm working so hard to get him elected."

[Thai Visa Member 999999]

6 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

He called father of twins Pete Buttigieg “childless”. This was said on purpose. Deliberately to demean and dismiss the existence and validity of his family. Vance is  a very nasty person. Not a stupid person. 

I think he said it before he had kids. Given Thiel's homosexuality, I don't think JD has a problem if the check clears.

[sqwakvfr]

Way too early. Harris has not even picked a running mate. The polls show Harris leading by 2%.  Margin of error for polls can be as high as 4%.  The DNC is not until August. Was having Pence as his running mate  moved the needle for Trump in 2016.  Right now it's Harris and Trump until the nation sees who her running mate will be. The attack ads will really ramp after the DNC.  As the saying goes "you ain't seen nothing yet".  The PAC (R and D) are probably working in overdrive to plan and air attack ads during the fall. 

 

There are two truths about any politician (old or new): 1) They are opportunists 2) Their acoomplishments are embellished and their failures are dowmplayed or even denied.   The truth is usually buried somewhere in the middle.  

 

 

[Thai Visa Member 999999]

11 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

Either one can make a big mistake.

 

Would Trump ditching Vance help? Mmmm, maybe but not a good look all round. Makes Trump look vulnerable. And Trump not good with women ... will struggle to get the tone right in a debate.

 

Can La Harris get thru the next few weeks without a big boo-boo? (A cackle in the wrong place, crumbling before a policy onslaught from a hostile interviewer, doesn't perform well in the grand debate if there is one ... ). So far she's looking really good and ticking all the boxes - younger, energetic, coloured, female etc. She now needs a state governor (younger white male) to balance out the platform and I think she's looking good for a win in November.

I'd rather see a Hispanic. Trump was stealing Hispanic and Black men from Biden and hopefully this will reverse that and shore it up. Percentage-wise, very few white guys are gonna vote D.

[Thai Visa Member 999999]

1 minute ago, sqwakvfr said:

Way too early. Harris has not even picked a running mate. The polls show Harris leading by 2%.  Margin of error for polls can be as high as 4%.  The DNC is not until August. Was having Pence as his running mate  moved the needle for Trump in 2016.  Right now it's Harris and Trump until the nation sees who her running mate will be. The attack ads will really ramp after the DNC.  As the saying goes "you ain't seen nothing yet".  The PAC (R and D) are probably working in overdrive to plan and air attack ads during the fall. 

 

There are two truths about any politician (old or new): 1) They are opportunists 2) Their acoomplishments are embellished and their failures are dowmplayed or even denied.   The truth is usually buried somewhere in the middle.  

 

 

People lie about voting for Black people. Harris is gonna have to have a 5 point lead in swing states I worry. 

[sqwakvfr]

10 minutes ago, Thai Visa Member 999999 said:

People lie about voting for Black people. Harris is gonna have to have a 5 point lead in swing states I worry. 

Another question could be does she get the vote of Indian American or even Asian American voters? 

[john smith]

Well, I guess Jingthings analysis of Vance could be described as balanced and analytical ( yep, irony)

[Dave5710]

You are a complete idiot.  Vance is a military veteran that graduated from Yale with a flawless record.  Harris is a complete disaster that was not even born in America but in Canada. She failed the Bar exam as well!  Go look at the polls dumb dumb.  Trump is destroying her!  As a Democratic nominee, she bowed out of the race early with a 1% approval rating!  She’s a radical leftist that held blacks who committed minor crimes past their release dates.  This makes her a racist as well.  She started her political career by means of an affair with a married man!  Demo-rats lost already!  Biden was a liar and she lied for him, calling him the most competent president she’s ever seen!  The media will push their lies about margin of error polling that has her within striking distance of Trump.  This is bull<deleted>.  She also received 100 million in donations for her campaign illegally.  She’s not qualified to even hold the position she’s in. A border czar whose claim to fame was keeping our borders open!  Let’s see if her Ven diagrams help her when she debates Trump… if she even shows up!  The Demonrats last chance after failing to impeach Trump, falsely accusing him of crimes Biden actually committed, weaponizing a justice system against him, fabricating a Russian collusion hoax, and last but not least a failed assassination attempt will not deter Trump from becoming our 47th U.S. President!  You can count on it!

[Hanaguma]

JD will be fine. He will appeal to the voters in the Rust Belt and the swing states there especially.  They will NOT be impressed with a California liberal whatsoever.  JD speaks their language and has lived in their world. He is also more conservative than Trump, especially on abortion. That will shore up the social conservatives, while Trump can still seem moderate.

[HappyExpat57]

7 hours ago, TedG said:

Yes I have.  This is your chance to tell me why it’s fascist. 

In simple terms:

Fascism is a far-right form of government in which most of the country's power is held by one ruler or a small group, under a single party.

This is the Project 2025 agenda.

[HappyExpat57]

Vance has not moved the needle even the slightest bit, he brought nothing to the table as far as convincing voters to cross over to the dark side. And if people can ever openly discuss how Vance publicly wrote about masturbating into a glove between two couch cushions as a youth, then I believe we could call game set match. I have a strong suspicion he was not vetted properly.

 

 

[HappyExpat57]

15 minutes ago, Dave5710 said:

You are a complete idiot.  Vance is a military veteran that graduated from Yale with a flawless record.  Harris is a complete disaster that was not even born in America but in Canada. She failed the Bar exam as well!  Go look at the polls dumb dumb.  Trump is destroying her!  As a Democratic nominee, she bowed out of the race early with a 1% approval rating!  She’s a radical leftist that held blacks who committed minor crimes past their release dates.  This makes her a racist as well.  She started her political career by means of an affair with a married man!  Demo-rats lost already!  Biden was a liar and she lied for him, calling him the most competent president she’s ever seen!  The media will push their lies about margin of error polling that has her within striking distance of Trump.  This is bull<deleted>.  She also received 100 million in donations for her campaign illegally.  She’s not qualified to even hold the position she’s in. A border czar whose claim to fame was keeping our borders open!  Let’s see if her Ven diagrams help her when she debates Trump… if she even shows up!  The Demonrats last chance after failing to impeach Trump, falsely accusing him of crimes Biden actually committed, weaponizing a justice system against him, fabricating a Russian collusion hoax, and last but not least a failed assassination attempt will not deter Trump from becoming our 47th U.S. President!  You can count on it!

Wow! I don't think I've EVER seen a post, either here or another forum, that has so many things incorrect.  Well done!

[Rimmer]

A personal attack and reply to it has been removed

[Celsius]

Well, well, if this title is allowed on AN then surely, I can post that demoncrat party is a nonce party.