Hong Kong policeman’s fatal fall from baht bus sparks safety outcry

[Shocked farang]

48 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

The fact that the driver did not notice someone falling of the baht bus steps onto the pavement - seem plausible (especially since he did not notify the driver that he was leaving 🤣).  When you see people getting on and off all the time, you don't register if they are there or not... you only register if someone rings to leave... you stop... and wait for payment.  Seems like a freak accident to me, and a bit of the passenger not being responsible for his own safety.  I don't know why he would be standing on the stairs - since the vehicle was empty, and I don't see how he would have been ejected from the seat.   Sorry, but you can not protect people from their own stupidity without making the experience worse for everyone else.

Only someone familiar with the Baht bus in Pattaya would understand your reply, yes I agree 100%, if you are going to ride on the stairs, you'd better have enough strength, he probably overestimated his strength to be able to hold on when the centrifuge forces happen. It's so easy to condemn the poor driver as reckless but probably the rider was responsible for his own demise. 

[2baht]

7 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Again the lack of safety is a subject in Thailand causing this fatal accident.

In other areas we have a working public transport system with regular buses. But here we have mafia like structures who rule many levels in public life.

Now this accident will create some attention and after a few days...business as usual.

Best left alone, right, nb! Let them figure it out themselves, it has'nt bothered them for generations, why start now???

 

 

Edited July 26 by 2baht

[tandor]

1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Darwin rules the world... let's make all riders put on helmets before boarding a baht bus that might keep the idiots safer.

and seat belts..  PS. how is it possible for a Baht Bus to 'speed away' !

[2baht]

2 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Do you really believe that... especially after reading one of tug's posts???  The Literacy Crisis in the U.S. is Deeply Concerning—and Totally Preventable - The Education Trust (edtrust.org)

Ahhh, there is a world beyond the USA you know!........yes........really!

[cookie1974]

The way they pack people in like sardines on the jomtien to pattaya route has always been an accident waiting to happen, people hanging out the back and squeezed into the seats is not my idea of a safe journey,i refuse to get on them and wait for a less packed one,sometimes common sense is al you need ( although in pattaya that seems to be the exception not the rule)

[Lenthai]

I not like to use this kind of transportation too dangerous, uncomfortable, and unfriendly service.

Happy there are much better options now available here in Pattaya.

[stoner]

15 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Get real, how can the chicks see how handsome Kh Daeng is he has to cover up with a helmet!

 

you're right. terrible idea. 

[cncltd1973]

he should have known about Thailand's 4 D's:

Desperate

Dysfunctional 

Dangerous 

Delusional 

 

this is the part of the Thai culture that visitors are attracted to, the TAT should lean into and not apologize for it.

[Skipalongcassidy]

10 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Ahhh, there is a world beyond the USA you know!........yes........really!

Ahhh... yes, I know... pick your favorite... How does England's literacy compare with other countries? | National Literacy Trust

[Shocked farang]

4 minutes ago, Lenthai said:

I not like to use this kind of transportation too dangerous, uncomfortable, and unfriendly service.

Happy there are much better options now available here in Pattaya.

For 10 Baht? 😂

[CFCol]

23 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Before you leave the driver wants his 20 baht 🤔

Your'e being overcharged.

[2baht]

1 minute ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

How does England's literacy compare with other countries?

Has worked for 70+ years for me with no problem!

[mfd101]

I find it hard to believe that a grown man, standing at the back and HANGING ON, would be unable to withstand the centrifugal forces as the vehicle 'sped away'.

[bkkcanuck8]

11 minutes ago, Lenthai said:

I not like to use this kind of transportation too dangerous, uncomfortable, and unfriendly service.

Happy there are much better options now available here in Pattaya.

This type of transit for me is preferable to the large buses that stop at every stop and take time waiting for people to board and leave.  I find the Songthaews to be better actually, they have good flow of air - so I don't feel I am overheating.  I can stand along the route and board by putting out my hand, boarding quickly - when I see my exit coming I hit a buzzer and it stops where I want and I deboard... quick and efficient... especially for low volume routes.  I don't know how you can tell if it is friendly service or not (not that you get friendly service in most western buses - the only time they communicate is when you mess up or don't pay).  Your normal interaction is stop - walk up to passengers side and give them a coin or two or a 20 baht note and get change (change is not an option in the west).   Are you expecting them to get out and wai to you and say - great to see you again... etc.? 

 

We have 24 routes of Songthaew in Khon Kaen, and a couple of really nice buses that do one or two routes...  buses are normally empty, and I find the wait too long and not as quick or easy to board and leave... I prefer the songthaew..

[bkkcanuck8]

5 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

I find it hard to believe that a grown man, standing at the back and HANGING ON, would be unable to withstand the centrifugal forces as the vehicle 'sped away'.

Not to mention, I doubt he was facing forward... and there was no centrifugal force according to the photo... it was a straight section... and he was not spun - so he must have been facing away from the truck and that would not give you the same sort of grip against the flow of vehicle.

[RichardColeman]

Maybe Thailand should instigate a 50 million baht compensation payment for all foreigners dying whilst on hoiiday in accidents !

[bkkcanuck8]

6 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Maybe Thailand should instigate a 50 million baht compensation payment for all foreigners dying whilst on hoiiday in accidents !

Most foreigners cannot afford paying the Thai government 50 million baht... please don't suggest it... 🤪

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, pattjock said:

I'm not sure if he was standing on the step behind the bahtbus when he fell off, but that is very likely. It has been illegal for passengers to use these steps while the bahtbus is moving for a long time now, but as with most Thai laws this has never been enforced.

 

The copper is at fault.

He needs to compensate the driver.

The cops in HK are the worst.

Mostly, they are sent down by the CPC to HK to occupy the British Colony.

They should march back to the Mainland.

Xi needs to go.

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

50 minutes ago, Shocked farang said:

It's so easy to condemn the poor driver as reckless but probably the rider was responsible for his own demise. 

 

100-percent correct.

The copper should be sent back.

The driver was operating the vehicle in a reasonable and safe way.

This is obvious from the video.

Watch the video before passing judgement.

 

[marin]

4 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

The copper is at fault.

He needs to compensate the driver.

The cops in HK are the worst.

Mostly, they are sent down by the CPC to HK to occupy the British Colony.

They should march back to the Mainland.

Xi needs to go.

You are going out further into looney land each day. 

[steven100]

1 hour ago, 2baht said:

Geniuses. as a rule, don't ride or drive baht busses on Beach Road! If you know one, let me know!

i'm surprised he didn't stop to get the fare ...

[GammaGlobulin]

47 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

I find it hard to believe that a grown man, standing at the back and HANGING ON, would be unable to withstand the centrifugal forces as the vehicle 'sped away'.

 

Exactly.

 

Also, it's fortunate that he chose to be a Policeman instead of a Fireman...

If he had been a fireman, he might have been falling off the truck...

All the time.

 

These guys are not geniuses.

But, also, they are not so stupid that they ride standing on the back of the truck....without a safety harness holding them securely to the truck.

 

Wear a safety harness...like the pros!

Before you do stupid things.

 

The driver is NOT at fault.

 

Note:  These firemen also wear non-skid foot gear.  They are pros.  They are not HK cops.

 

 

Note2:  These guys are from New Jersey. They don't fall off the back of trucks or busses.

 

 

 

Edited July 26 by GammaGlobulin

[5davidhen1]

26 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

100-percent correct.

The copper should be sent back.

The driver was operating the vehicle in a reasonable and safe way.

This is obvious from the video.

Watch the video before passing judgement.

 

How does one view the video, where is it please?

[jacko45k]

2 hours ago, hotchilli said:

That's what foreigners who die mean to Thailand...

Heaven forbid they have to get real insurance cover rather than some cheap-ass compulsory. 

[GammaGlobulin]

20 minutes ago, 5davidhen1 said:

How does one view the video, where is it please?

 

The link is posted in the other Topic dealing with this on TV.

Or, just google it.

It is on several Thai websites....and on TV, too.

 

[5davidhen1]

4 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

The link is posted in the other Topic dealing with this on TV.

Or, just google it.

It is on several Thai websites....and on TV, too.

 

Thank you. It certainly appears that the passenger was at fault?

[GammaGlobulin]

2 minutes ago, 5davidhen1 said:

Thank you. It certainly appears that the passenger was at fault?

 

Yes.

In fact, it does.

 

[ignore it]

1 hour ago, sammieuk1 said:

Before you leave the driver wants his 20 baht 🤔

Yeah,

 

The driver obviously unaware the guy left the bus.

 

 

[Surasak]

2 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Shouldn't that be nationwide, why just Pattaya.

 

My thoughts also. I can remember when it was made law to wear a crash helmet while riding a motorcycle. But ONLY IN BANGKOK. Stupid is as stupid does.

[DPKANKAN]

3 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Darwin rules the world... let's make all riders put on helmets before boarding a baht bus that might keep the idiots safer.

As I have said before, all Songtao and Saleng taxis should have a drop down safety bar/gate after people enter. No brainer!!!!