1 hour ago, impulse said:

I had such good luck with Ergonomic (Vertical) mice (?) that I bought enough for my entire group at the office.  Some of them loved them, some didn't notice a difference.  They were all young pups, so maybe they didn't need them like old fart me.   

 

I bought them from Lazada.  The wireless ones that cost less than 300 baht didn't seem to last as long.

 

Edit:  I had also bought an adjustable height office chair that helped, by getting my entire forearm at the same height as the desktop.  It was a little spendy, but well worth it.  I think about 5500 baht.  But there are cheaper models with height adjustment, and you can spend a lot more if you choose.

 

 

I use Microsoft or Logitech ergonomic mouse or trackball since years. They cost roughly between 1000B to 3000B and I used them all for years.

I think everybody should make sure they have comfortable input devices for their computer which they use every day.

Even if the 3000B mouse would only last one year, that less than 10B per day. I think that is a good investment in our health. 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, bubblegum said:

That's because only my neck hurts. Because my nerv system is compromised my muscles will act up and (don't know how to say in English) it looks like I do heavy work all the time so then I get the muscle pains going from shoulder blades up to my ear (left side only.

It seems to me you look at the wrong place to solve your neck problems.

I.e. the height of the monitor compared to your head makes a big difference to your neck. Do you look straight or up or down? Or maybe at an angle?

And do you sit comfortably? Or do you sit in a position which is comfortable enough for your body but then you have to told your head in a way that hurts your neck?

 

Maybe look up some article or videos about body position and sitting at a desk and positioning of monitor, keyboard, etc.

And maybe let someone else look at you when you sit on your PC. Do you sit in the way the experts recommend?

And maybe let that other person look at you not only after you sit there 5 min. Try an hour later or maybe several hours later.

Maybe you sink into your chair when you get tired.

 

 

 

 

 

Here is my setup and my neck xray. As you can see my pc is my tv and my tv is my monitor. If that makes sense at all.

 

I thank everybody for the advice except the porn man 😉

 

I'll keep the mouse closer and will go back to trackball  mouse. I do exercises but not really works. The elbow thing is also a option.

 

Thanks again guys and girls

3 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Here is my setup and my neck xray. As you can see my pc is my tv and my tv is my monitor. If that makes sense at all.

 

I thank everybody for the advice except the porn man 😉

 

I'll keep the mouse closer and will go back to trackball  mouse. I do exercises but not really works. The elbow thing is also a option.

 

Thanks again guys and girls

 

 

It seems you are looking down to your monitor. Not good!

 

 

 

 

It's because you are ' sloushed '  over ....   you need to remind yourself every 10 minutes to sit up straight.

Your pain in the shoulders and neck is from the spine being curved while sitting for long periods.

 

learn to sit up straight and the pain will go away. 

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

learn to sit up straight and the pain will go away. 

 

YES!  I am shocked to see 90% of answers being about the mouse, or trackball, etc., when it is glaringly obvious that neck and shoulder pain is caused by bad posture!!!

 

Sit up straight!!!

Your underpants are too tight.

See post about getting XL underware

😆

1 hour ago, CanadaSam said:

 

YES!  I am shocked to see 90% of answers being about the mouse, or trackball, etc., when it is glaringly obvious that neck and shoulder pain is caused by bad posture!!!

 

Sit up straight!!!

Agree. Elevate that TV screen to eye level.

 

And add a lumbar support pillow. 

Go for a walk. Seriously.

I would also recommend a foot rest, it is very beneficial for posture and circulation.

14 hours ago, blazes said:

er, yes, but the last time i looked, Apples don't need  mice!

Shouldn't that be mouse's?

58 minutes ago, Kinok Farang said:

15 hours ago, blazes said:

er, yes, but the last time i looked, Apples don't need  mice!

Shouldn't that be mouse's?

 

The fact that there exists no special "techie" word to signify the plural of "mouse" (certainly not "mouses") indicates the limitations of the product.....

I think this only applies to laptops:

 

I twist the laptop at angle to the edge of the table, when using the mouse in the right hand, and rest my right elbow and lower arm on the table.

 

Less aching issues with the lower arm supported by the table and not the shoulder.

Using trackball at the moment and keeping it in my lap, see how that fares.