October 26, 20241 yr Popular Post Michelle Obama perfectly articulates the case in favor of Kamala Harris and against Donald Trump in this speech delivered today in Kalamazoo, MI. Given that Kalamazoo is located in a pretty rural part of Michigan, the enthusiasm levels of the rally crowd should give Trump supporters pause, i.e., send a chill up their spines.
October 27, 20241 yr Popular Post I certainly hope these polls do not predict the real outcomes. I can't imagine how horrible it would be to have Trump become president again. I just can't understand how so many of my fellow US citizens could consider backing a man like that. Even if Trump loses, it will probably be that 45% or more of registered voters voted for him. Despicable!
October 27, 20241 yr Popular Post 3 hours ago, Talon said: But fascism and socialism are both alike in that they are both immoral, authoritarian, oppressive and totalitarian -- both Left. Nonsense , authoritarian does not equate to left or right. You people are not doing the folks on the right any favors with your ignorance
October 27, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, Yagoda said: The world is going to hell and all she cares about is killing babies. That's all she has. No economic plan, no plan to solve the border, no plan to solve any problems in the Middle East no plan to ensure energy Independence no plan to fix the military no plan no plan no plan but let's kill babies! Rip them fetuses out of the womb celebrate your abortions! Oh wait no it's not an abortion it's not infanticide it's Reproductive Rights. The last politicians to rename murder were the national socialists with their final solution You seem detached from reality. https://x.com/Acyn/status/1850233018935554405 Are you worried about the cows?
October 27, 20241 yr https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=20&q=socialism+vs+fascism&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5#d=gs_qabs&t=1729993339510&u=%23p%3DIn7xcnlEyok
October 27, 20241 yr 46 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: You seem detached from reality. https://x.com/Acyn/status/1850233018935554405 Are you worried about the cows? So do folks who think infanticide is OK
October 27, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, WDSmart said: I certainly hope these polls do not predict the real outcomes. I can't imagine how horrible it would be to have Trump become president again. I just can't understand how so many of my fellow US citizens could consider backing a man like that. Even if Trump loses, it will probably be that 45% or more of registered voters voted for him. Despicable! Folks who dont vote for Trump support genital mutilation of children, segregation, racial preferences, anti americanism and anti semitism. Looks like the despicability is on your side
October 27, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, morrobay said: Nonsense , authoritarian does not equate to left or right. You people are not doing the folks on the right any favors with your ignorance Im ready to debate any time. Here is a proposition for you to chew on: You cant have Socialism without authoritarianism. Deal with it.
October 27, 20241 yr 54 minutes ago, still kicking said: And people vote for him? People dont like babykilling and genital mutilation so, yes.
October 27, 20241 yr Popular Post 2 hours ago, WDSmart said: I certainly hope these polls do not predict the real outcomes. I can't imagine how horrible it would be to have Trump become president again. I just can't understand how so many of my fellow US citizens could consider backing a man like that. Even if Trump loses, it will probably be that 45% or more of registered voters voted for him. Despicable! What I find even more astounding is the number of European forum members who so vocally support Trump. Obviously the attraction is to Trump's nativist and anti-immigrant rhetoric. But that they can so blithely ignore his autocratic tendencies, his ambivalent attitude towards NATO, and his admiration for Putin is simply unbelievable. Have they ever stopped to consider who would come to Europe's rescue were Putin to continue his westward incursions beyond Ukraine? Do they not realize that had it not been for America's efforts during WWII, most of them would probably be speaking either German or Russian today? The sad lack of historical perspective is both shocking and saddening.
October 27, 20241 yr Popular Post 1 minute ago, Yagoda said: Folks who dont vote for Trump support genital mutilation of children, segregation, racial preferences, anti americanism and anti semitism. Looks like the despicability is on your side I'm a far-left liberal, and I didn't vote for Trump. I am not, however, in support of genital mutilation of children (circumcision?), segregation, racial preferences, and anti-Semitism. I am in favor of anti-Americanism if that means being against most of the features that Trump and his supporters consider "American values," like Christian nationalism, capitalism, anti-immigrant, and White supremacy.
October 27, 20241 yr Popular Post 3 minutes ago, Yagoda said: People dont like babykilling and genital mutilation so, yes. 3 minutes ago, Yagoda said: People dont like babykilling and genital mutilation so, yes. The world will be dust with Kamala. But what does anybody care about that if we can have abortions right?
October 27, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Yagoda said: Im ready to debate any time. Here is a proposition for you to chew on: You cant have Socialism without authoritarianism. Deal with it. No, you can have a socialist economy with several different kinds of government. Authoritarianism would be possible but the least likely. The most likely would be a democracy.
October 27, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, WDSmart said: I'm a far-left liberal, and I didn't vote for Trump. I am not, however, in support of genital mutilation of children (circumcision?), segregation, racial preferences, and anti-Semitism. I am in favor of anti-Americanism if that means being against most of the features that Trump and his supporters consider "American values," like Christian nationalism, capitalism, anti-immigrant, and White supremacy. Oh a far left anti capitalist? Cool. At least you admit your adherence to the most murderous ideology of all time. Power in the hands of folks likes you leads to ditches full of bodies.
October 27, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, WDSmart said: No, you can have a socialist economy with several different kinds of government. Authoritarianism would be possible but the least likely. The most likely would be a democracy. The least likely. China Venezuela Cambodia Russia National Socialist Germany Great track record
October 27, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, Yagoda said: Oh a far left anti capitalist? Cool. At least you admit your adherence to the most murderous ideology of all time. Power in the hands of folks likes you leads to ditches full of bodies. Yes, I am a far-left anti-capitalist. I prefer a socialist economy. I don't want power in my hands. I want to live in a democracy. If there are ditches full of bodies, they were probably put there by right-wing fascists.
October 27, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, morrobay said: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=20&q=socialism+vs+fascism&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5#d=gs_qabs&t=1729993339510&u=%23p%3DIn7xcnlEyok Decent article, none of the anti Trumpers will read it. Watch someone attack the author though. Thats a typical left tactic, attack the author because of his class, education, ethnicity.
October 27, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, WDSmart said: Yes, I am a far-left anti-capitalist. I prefer a socialist economy. I don't want power in my hands. I want to live in a democracy. If there are ditches full of bodies, they were probably put there by right-wing fascists. You may not want power but your leaders do. And when they hand you a rifle and push you towards the line of class enemies waiting for their bullets, what are you going to do?. Odds are, based on research, that you will shoot because you are either brainwashed or? Right wingers and conservatives dont have a history of murder.
October 27, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, Yagoda said: 11 minutes ago, WDSmart said: No, you can have a socialist economy with several different kinds of government. Authoritarianism would be possible but the least likely. The most likely would be a democracy. The least likely. China Venezuela Cambodia Russia National Socialist Germany Great track record No, none of these have a socialist or communist economy. They all practice capitalism. Some, like the USA, do have a mix of capitalism and socialism, but none has true socialism. But yes, all on the list do have, IMO, an authoritarian government. We in the USA have what I would call a plutocracy disguised as a democratic republic.
October 27, 20241 yr Popular Post Just now, Yagoda said: You may not want power but your leaders do. And when they hand you a rifle and push you towards the line of class enemies waiting for their bullets, what are you going to do?. Odds are, based on research, that you will shoot because you are either brainwashed or? Right wingers and conservatives dont have a history of murder. No, I will live here in Thailand in the mountains and let my fellow citizens in the USA sort things out by themselves. Right-wingers do have a long history of murder, from Ghengis Khan to Hitler and now Putin and Netanyahu.
October 27, 20241 yr Popular Post 24 minutes ago, Yagoda said: Im ready to debate any time. Here is a proposition for you to chew on: You cant have Socialism without authoritarianism. Deal with it. But who is advocating socialism beyond the economic idea of maybe tax the very rich a bit more - something that won't affect most voters including I assume yourself - and providing a few more services to the rest. Maybe the odd social policy that are mostly non controversial. So how does that require authoritarianism. If your talking about a more formal definition of socialism than it's irrelevant as neither party is advocating for it.
October 27, 20241 yr Popular Post 50 minutes ago, Yagoda said: So do folks who think infanticide is OK Nobody in this election thinks infanticide is okay. Unless you back up your claim with a link, I am going to start posting unverified claims, and that will give you a sad. Please try to control yourself. Yes, I know you are worried, but acting out like a child and posting lies won't help you.
October 27, 20241 yr Popular Post 10 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said: But who is advocating socialism beyond the economic idea of maybe tax the very rich a bit more - something that won't affect most voters including I assume yourself - and providing a few more services to the rest. Maybe the odd social policy that are mostly non controversial. So how does that require authoritarianism. If your talking about a more formal definition of socialism than it's irrelevant as neither party is advocating for it. Taxing the rich their fair share is "socialism" for the MAGA types. Why do the Trumpers love billionaires? Because they think some of that money will trickle down to them. But they can't admit that. So, if you ask them why they don't want billionaires taxed more, they will change the subject.
October 27, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, Yagoda said: You may not want power but your leaders do. And when they hand you a rifle and push you towards the line of class enemies waiting for their bullets, what are you going to do?. Odds are, based on research, that you will shoot because you are either brainwashed or? Right wingers and conservatives dont have a history of murder. What are you talking about?
October 27, 20241 yr Popular Post 30 minutes ago, Yagoda said: The least likely. China Venezuela Cambodia Russia National Socialist Germany Great track record Nazi Germany imprisoned their socialists. China is the world's leading capitalist power. Russia is neo communist.
October 27, 20241 yr https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/wisconsin-results Wisconsin early voting is slipping away from Trump. If the current trend continues, Trump is toast.
October 27, 20241 yr 49 minutes ago, WDSmart said: No, I will live here in Thailand in the mountains and let my fellow citizens in the USA sort things out by themselves. Right-wingers do have a long history of murder, from Ghengis Khan to Hitler and now Putin and Netanyahu. Ghengis Khan was a right winger? Where did you learn that one lol. Hitler was a Socialist, Putin is barely a player in the realm of murder and Netanyahu? You must be an anti semite, socialists usually are.
October 27, 20241 yr 47 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said: But who is advocating socialism beyond the economic idea of maybe tax the very rich a bit more - something that won't affect most voters including I assume yourself - and providing a few more services to the rest. Maybe the odd social policy that are mostly non controversial. So how does that require authoritarianism. If your talking about a more formal definition of socialism than it's irrelevant as neither party is advocating for it. The Democrats are allied with the Democrats Socialists, supported by the Communist party and several members of their leadership are avowed socialists.
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