2 hours ago, nattaya09 said:

In New York, he isn't a "convicted felon" until the Judge passes that judgement at sentencing.

He was found guilty of felony crimes. It turns out that it's true that the convicted felon status technically occurs at sentencing so I stand corrected on that detail. However, thar doesn't mean its possible to undo the guilty verdicts at sentencing  Sentencing is about sentencing.

 

I will desist on calling him a convicted felon until he's sentenced.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Joe Biden said lock him up politically….personally I’d prefer to see him in the penitentiary that would accomplish both and he’s earned it in spades!

OMG people... enough already.   President Trump wasn’t that bad, other than when he incited an insurrection against the government, mismanaged a pandemic that killed nearly half a million Americans, separated children from their families, lost those children in the bureaucracy, tear-gassed peaceful protesters on Lafayette Square so he could hold a photo op holding a Bible in front of a church, tried to block all Muslims from entering the country, got impeached, got impeached again, had the worst jobs record of any president in modern history, pressured Ukraine to dig dirt on Joe Biden, fired the FBI director for investigating his ties to Russia, bragged about firing the FBI director on TV, took Vladimir Putin’s word over the US intelligence community, diverted military funding to build his wall, caused the longest government shutdown in US history, called Black Lives Matter a “symbol of hate,” lied nearly 30,000 times, banned transgender people from serving in the military, ejected reporters from the White House briefing room who asked tough questions, vetoed the defense funding bill because it renamed military bases named for Confederate soldiers, refused to release his tax returns, increased the national debt by nearly $8 trillion, had three of the highest annual trade deficits in U.S. history, called veterans and soldiers who died in combat losers and suckers, coddled the leader of Saudi Arabia after he ordered the execution and dismembering of a US-based journalist, refused to concede the 2020 election, hired his unqualified daughter and son-in-law to work in the White House, walked out of an interview with Lesley Stahl, called neo-Nazis “very fine people,” suggested that people should inject bleach into their bodies to fight COVID, abandoned our allies the Kurds to Turkey, pushed through massive tax cuts for the wealthiest but balked at helping working Americans, incited anti-lockdown protestors in several states at the height of the pandemic, withdrew the US from the Paris climate accords, withdrew the US from the Iranian nuclear deal, withdrew the US from the Trans Pacific Partnership which was designed to block China’s advances, insulted his own Cabinet members on Twitter, pushed the leader of Montenegro out of the way during a photo op, failed to reiterate US commitment to defending NATO allies, called Haiti and African nations “<deleted>hole” countries, called the city of Baltimore the “worst in the nation,” claimed that he single handedly brought back the phrase “Merry Christmas” even though it hadn’t gone anywhere, forced his Cabinet members to praise him publicly like some cult leader, believed he should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, berated and belittled his hand-picked Attorney General when he recused himself from the Russia probe, suggested the US should buy Greenland, colluded with Mitch McConnell to push through federal judges and two Supreme Court justices after supporting efforts to prevent his predecessor from appointing judges, repeatedly called the media “enemies of the people,” claimed that if we tested fewer people for COVID we’d have fewer cases, violated the emoluments clause, thought that Nambia was a country, told Bob Woodward in private that the coronavirus was a big deal but then downplayed it in public, called his exceedingly faithful vice president a “p---y” for following the Constitution, nearly got us into a war with Iran after threatening them by tweet, nominated a corrupt head of the EPA, nominated a corrupt head of HHS, nominated a corrupt head of the Interior Department, nominated a corrupt head of the USDA, praised dictators and authoritarians around the world while criticizing allies, refused to allow the presidential transition to begin, insulted war hero John McCain – even after his death, spent an obscene amount of time playing golf after criticizing Barack Obama for playing (far less) golf while president, falsely claimed that he won the 2016 popular vote, called the Muslim mayor of London a “stone cold loser,” falsely claimed that he turned down being Time’s Man of the Year, considered firing special counsel Robert Mueller on several occasions, mocked wearing face masks to guard against transmitting COVID, locked Congress out of its constitutional duty to confirm Cabinet officials by hiring acting ones, used a racist dog whistle by calling COVID the “China virus,” hired and associated with numerous shady figures that were eventually convicted of federal offenses including his campaign manager and national security adviser, pardoned several of his shady associates, gave the Presidential Medal of Freedom to two congressman who amplified his bat<deleted> crazy conspiracy theories, got into telephone fight with the leader of Australia(!), had a Secretary of State who called him a moron, forced his press secretary to claim without merit that his was the largest inauguration crowd in history, botched the COVID vaccine rollout, tweeted so much dangerous propaganda that Twitter eventually banned him, charged the Secret Service jacked-up rates at his properties, constantly interrupted Joe Biden in their first presidential debate, claimed that COVID would “magically” disappear, called a U.S. Senator “Pocahontas,” used his Twitter account to blast Nordstrom when it stopped selling Ivanka’s merchandise, opened up millions of pristine federal lands to development and drilling, got into a losing tariff war with China that forced US taxpayers to bail out farmers, claimed that his losing tariff war was a win for the US, ignored or didn’t even take part in daily intelligence briefings, blew off honoring American war dead in France because it was raining, redesigned Air Force One to look like the Trump Shuttle, got played by Kim Jung Un and his “love letters,” threatened to go after social media companies in clear violation of the Constitution, botched the response to Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico, threw paper towels at Puerto Ricans when he finally visited them, pressured the governor and secretary of state of Georgia to “find” him votes, thought that the Virgin islands had a President, drew on a map with a Sharpie to justify his inaccurate tweet that Alabama was threatened by a hurricane, allowed White House staff to use personal email accounts for official businesses after blasting Hillary Clinton for doing the same thing, rolled back regulations that protected the public from mercury and asbestos, pushed regulators to waste time studying snake-oil remedies for COVID, rolled back regulations that stopped coal companies from dumping waste into rivers, held blatant campaign rallies at the White House, tried to take away millions of Americans’ health insurance because the law was named for a Black man, refused to attend his successors’ inauguration, nominated the worst Education Secretary in history, threatened judges who didn’t do what he wanted, attacked Dr. Anthony Fauci, promised that Mexico would pay for the wall (it didn’t), allowed political hacks to overrule government scientists on major reports on climate change and other issues, struggled navigating a ramp after claiming his opponent was feeble, called an African-American Congresswoman “low IQ,” threatened to withhold federal aid from states and cities with Democratic leaders, went ahead with rallies filled with maskless supporters in the middle of a pandemic, claimed that legitimate investigations of his wrongdoing were “witch hunts,” seemed to demonstrate a belief that there were airports during the American Revolution, demanded “total loyalty” from the FBI director, praised a conspiracy theory that Democrats are Satanic pedophiles, completely gutted the Voice of America, placed a political hack in charge of the Postal Service, claimed without evidence that the Obama administration bugged Trump Tower, suggested that the US should allow more people from places like Norway into the country, suggested that COVID wasn’t that bad because he recovered with the help of top government doctors and treatments not available to the public, overturned energy conservation standards that even industry supported, reduced the number of refugees the US accepts, insulted various members of Congress and the media with infantile nicknames, gave Rush Limbaugh a Presidential medal of Freedom at the State of the Union address, named as head of federal personnel a 29-year old who’d previously been fired from the White House for allegations of financial improprieties, eliminated the White House office of pandemic response, used soldiers as campaign props, fired any advisor who made the mistake of disagreeing with him, demanded the Pentagon throw him a Soviet-style military parade, hired a <deleted> ton of white nationalists, politicized the civil service, did absolutely nothing after Russia hacked the U.S. government, falsely said the Boy Scouts called him to say his bizarre Jamboree speech was the best speech ever given to the Scouts, claimed that Black people would overrun the suburbs if Biden won, insulted reporters of color, insulted women reporters, insulted women reporters of color, suggested he was fine with China’s oppression of the Uighurs, attacked the Supreme Court when it ruled against him, summoned Pennsylvania state legislative leaders to the White House to pressure them to overturn the election, spent countless hours every day watching Fox News, refused to allow his administration to comply with Congressional subpoenas, hired Rudy Giuliani as his lawyer, tried to punish Amazon because the Jeff Bezos-owned Washington Post wrote negative stories about him, acted as if the Attorney General of the United States was his personal attorney, attempted to get the federal government to defend him in a libel lawsuit from a women who accused him of sexual assault, held private meetings with Vladimir Putin without staff present, didn’t disclose his private meetings with Vladimir Putin so that the US had to find out via Russian media, stopped holding press briefings for months at a time, “ordered” US companies to leave China even though he has no such power, led a political party that couldn’t even be bothered to draft a policy platform, claimed preposterously that Article II of the Constitution gave him absolute powers, tried to pressure the U.K. to hold the British Open at his golf course, suggested that the government nuke hurricanes, suggested that wind turbines cause cancer, said that he had a special aptitude for science, fired the head of election cyber security after he said that the 2020 election was secure, blurted out classified information to Russian officials, tried to force the G7 to hold their meeting at his failing golf resort in Florida, fired the acting attorney general when she refused to go along with his unconstitutional Muslim travel ban, hired Stephen Miller, openly discussed national security issues in the dining room at Mar-a-Lago where everyone could hear them, interfered with plans to relocate the FBI because a new development there might compete with his hotel, abandoned Iraqi refugees who’d helped the U.S. during the war, tried to get Russia back into the G7, held a COVID super spreader event in the Rose Garden, seemed to believe that Frederick Douglass is still alive, lost 60 election fraud cases in court including before judges he had nominated, falsely claimed that factories were reopening when they weren’t, shamelessly exploited terror attacks in Europe to justify his anti-immigrant policies, still hasn’t come up with a healthcare plan, still hasn’t come up with an infrastructure plan despite repeated “Infrastructure Weeks,” forced Secret Service agents to drive him around Walter Reed while contagious with COVID, told the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by,” <deleted> up the Census, withdrew the U.S. from the World Health Organization in the middle of a pandemic, did so few of his duties that his press staff were forced to state on his daily schedule “President Trump will work from early in the morning until late in the evening. He will make many calls and have many meetings,” allowed his staff to repeatedly violate the Hatch Act, seemed not to know that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, stood before sacred CIA wall of heroes and bragged about his election win, constantly claimed he was treated worse than any president which presumably includes four that were assassinated and his predecessor whose legitimacy and birthplace were challenged by a racist reality TV show star named Donald Trump, claimed Andrew Jackson could’ve stopped the Civil War even though he died 16 years before it happened, said that any opinion poll showing him behind was fake, claimed that other countries laughed at us before he became president when several world leaders were literally laughing at him, claimed that the military was out of ammunition before he became President, created a commission to whitewash American history, retweeted anti-Islam videos from one of the most racist people in Britain, claimed ludicrously that the Pulse nightclub shooting wouldn’t have happened if someone there had a gun even though there was an armed security guard there, hired a senior staffer who cited the non-existent Bowling Green Massacre as a reason to ban Muslims, had a press secretary who claimed that Nazi Germany never used chemical weapons even though every sane human being knows they used gas to kill millions of Jews and others, bilked the Secret Service for higher than market rates when they had to stay at Trump properties, apparently sold pardons on his way out of the White House, stripped protective status from 59,000 Haitians, falsely claimed Biden wanted to defund the police, said that the head of the CDC didn’t know what he was talking about, tried to rescind protection from DREAMers, gave himself an A+ for his handling of the pandemic, tried to start a boycott of Goodyear tires due to an Internet hoax, said U.S. rates of COVID would be lower if you didn’t count blue states, deported U.S. veterans who served their country but were undocumented, claimed he did more for African Americans than any president since Lincoln, touted a “super-duper” secret “hydrosonic” missile which may or may not be a new “hypersonic” missile or may not exist at all, retweeted a gif calling Biden a pedophile, forced through security clearances for his family, suggested that police officers should rough up suspects, suggested that Biden was on performance-enhancing drugs, tried to stop transgender students from being able to use school bathrooms in line with their gender, suggested the US not accept COVID patients from a cruise ship because it would make US numbers look higher, nominated a climate change sceptic to chair the committee advising the White House on environmental policy, retweeted a video doctored to look like Biden had played a song called “<deleted> tha Police” at a campaign event, hugged a disturbingly large number of U.S. flags, accused Democrats of “treason” for not applauding his State of the Union address, claimed that the FBI failed to capture the Parkland school shooter because they were “spending too much time” on Russia, mocked the testimony of Dr Christine Blasey Ford when she accused Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault, obsessed over low-flow toilets, ordered the rerelease of more COVID vaccines when there weren’t any to release, called for the construction of a bizarre garden of heroes with statutes of famous dead Americans as well as at least one Canadian (Alex Trebek), hijacked Washington’s July 4th celebrations to give a partisan speech, took advice from the MyPillow guy, claimed that migrants seeking a better life in the US were dangerous caravans of drug dealers and rapists, said nothing when Vladimir Putin poisoned a leading opposition figure, never seemed to heed the advice of his wife’s “Be Best” campaign, falsely claimed that mail-in voting is fraudulent, announced a precipitous withdrawal of troops from Syria which not only handed Russia and ISIS a win but also prompted his defense secretary to resign in protest, insulted the leader of Canada, insulted the leader of France, insulted the leader of Britain, insulted the leader of Germany, insulted the leader of Sweden (Sweden!!), falsely claimed credit for getting NATO members to increase their share of dues, blew off two Asia summits even though they were held virtually, continued lying about spending lots of time at Ground Zero with 9/11 responders, said that the Japanese would sit back and watch their “Sony televisions” if the US were ever attacked, left a NATO summit early in a huff, stared directly into an eclipse even though everyone over the age of 5 knows not to do that, called himself a very stable genius despite significant evidence to the contrary, refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power and kept his promise, making an INSUFFERABLE 10+ min speech about the size of Arnold Palmer's PENIS and a whole bunch of other things I can’t remember at the moment.

But other than that.....

 

 

19 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Best economy in the world.

What?

Senile

There is no reason for a delay in handing out punishment once he is denied a victory and declared a two-time loser. Many of us know that's the only reason why he hasn't been sentenced already. This is a man who has spent his entire career defrauding people, making billions off of the bad fortune of people who have worked for him, and a multitude other scams.

 

He richly deserves to be locked up. 

 

 

20 hours ago, riclag said:

“We got to lock him up”

Biden once had to walk back a bullseye comment a few months ago!

 

After a four second pause during which his audience enthusiastically applauded, Biden added in a apparent back track attempt “politically  lock him up— lock him out, thats what we got to do”.

 

Who’s the threat to democracy ?

Its the party of political persecution, the democrats .

 

https://nypost.com/2024/10/22/us-news/biden-calls-for-trump-to-be-jailed-14-days-before-2024-election-we-gotta-lock-him-up/

 

Trump should already be long locked up...or at minimum, in pre-trial detention for violating gag orders, being a threat to and endangering the safety and lives of many, with his ridiculous lies and total BS to his idiotic and dangerous cult members. 

21 hours ago, riclag said:

“We got to lock him up”

Biden once had to walk back a bullseye comment a few months ago!

 

After a four second pause during which his audience enthusiastically applauded, Biden added in a apparent back track attempt “politically  lock him up— lock him out, thats what we got to do”.

 

Who’s the threat to democracy ?

Its the party of political persecution, the democrats .

 

https://nypost.com/2024/10/22/us-news/biden-calls-for-trump-to-be-jailed-14-days-before-2024-election-we-gotta-lock-him-up/

 

So for 4 seconds in the history of the Universe Biden advocated locking the guilty man up before backtracking?  I remember chants of "Lock her Up" joined by you know who,  for months.

 

The most prepared candidate in US history. Hounded for 25 plus years by the "vast right wing conspiracy" Never even charged with a crime, let alone found guilty of anything.  Nothing but conspiracy, false accusations and bald-faced GOP lies.

 

I think we can stop this thread right here.

 

 

 

 

Techno H - brilliant post. Thanks.

 

Elsewhere, just seen a description of DT as a 'walking crime wave' and it's hard to argue with that.

 

To any sincere remaining Trump supporters - FGS wake up.

 

I can't see how ANYONE could still support this dangerous moron Trump.

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I can only assume you are willfully blind

 

I apply the same wording to your acceptance of trump. In fact even more so given his self incriminating words, or rather drivel

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He was impeached but the senate did not convict him, likely because it was a nonsense political event, IMO.

 

No. trump survived impeachment due to the cowardly actions of the Republicans and gross breach of the Oath of Office to support the Constitution.

11 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

No, it did not. It evolved into a shooting safety organization. 

 

 

Safety is the fundamental element of good marksmanship.

Hear they had shooting clubs in NYC public schools in the 1950s. Imagine that.

I have seen me mums Marksmanship certificate from Summer Camp 

 

NRA is no more than a than a partisan mouthpiece of the  death industry money now.

 Nobody is talking about banning all guns

19 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Why aren't you there then?

 

If I was a citizen of the country with the best economy in the world, I'd be living there.

Nonsense response. 

 

19 hours ago, Jingthing said:

My money is there mate. Fully invested. 

Right on. Me too. Cha-ching❗🇺🇸 👍💲🤑💲

Meanwhile, on immigration of illegals entering the country. Biden/Harris have been hiding the illegals entering the country by sending them to other states. Prior to the government doing this, they criticised states for doing this themselves. Harris claims illegal entry is being reduce. But the amount is meager because they are not dumping them in the states they entered anymore. Buses and planeloads daily are sent to take them out of the respective state and then dumped in another state. 

With just two weeks until the presidential election, the Biden-Harris administration is working overtime to hide its illegal migrant problem from the public’s view, furious Border Patrol agents say.

ICE has been ordered to speed up deportations. And Border Patrol agents are busing and flying migrants from San Diego — where arrivals are still double what they were when President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris took office, Homeland Security sources told The Post.

 

San Diego County Border Patrol Supervisor Jim Desmond called the move a “blatant attempt” by the Biden-Harris admin “to protect their image before the election.”

Each week, “numerous buses” are being sent to Yuma, Arizona, and “three to four planes” are being flown to McAllen, Texas, Desmond said.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/biden-harris-admin-shipping-migrants-to-arizona-and-texas-to-hide-border-problem-before-election-day-it-s-about-optics/ar-AA1sMvgh?ocid=nl_article_link&cvid=b640525d8cbf430d8bfac3b023c9e0b0&ei=253

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

However you seem to be implying that it's not correct to say he was impeached twice if he wasn't convicted. 

That is wrong. 

It is totally correct.

 

It's also not correct to make a big deal out of the impeachment of a president that people are willing to do anything to try to discredit, including lying and conspiring.

1 hour ago, Captain Monday said:

So for 4 seconds in the history of the Universe Biden advocated locking the guilty man up before backtracking?  I remember chants of "Lock her Up" joined by you know who,  for months.

 

The most prepared candidate in US history. Hounded for 25 plus years by the "vast right wing conspiracy" Never even charged with a crime, let alone found guilty of anything.  Nothing but conspiracy, false accusations and bald-faced GOP lies.

 

I think we can stop this thread right here.

 

 

 

 

 

This sounds a lot like "whataboutism".

 

The point is that Biden has made calls similar to that which Trump is criticised for making, so pointing out that Trump has done it also is meaningless.

5 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Someone needs to report the troll, all he does is lie.

 

5 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Someone needs to report the troll, all he does is lie.

Don’t look at me to do it! I can’t afford to be banned right now! My country’s 

Swing Voters are dependent on me to report the news.

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

There is no reason for a delay in handing out punishment once he is denied a victory and declared a two-time loser. Many of us know that's the only reason why he hasn't been sentenced already. This is a man who has spent his entire career defrauding people, making billions off of the bad fortune of people who have worked for him, and a multitude other scams.

 

He richly deserves to be locked up. 

 

 

They won't because if they do it to him, the next time there is a GOP POTUS and congress they'll be paid back.

 

I'm so looking forward to Trump winning.

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They won't because if they do it to him, the next time there is a GOP POTUS and congress they'll be paid back.

 

I'm so looking forward to Trump winning.

We know.............................Goes with your Putin support...

1 hour ago, TorquayFan said:

Techno H - brilliant post. Thanks.

 

Elsewhere, just seen a description of DT as a 'walking crime wave' and it's hard to argue with that.

 

To any sincere remaining Trump supporters - FGS wake up.

 

I can't see how ANYONE could still support this dangerous moron Trump.

I can't see how anyone could support Harris. IMO a warmonger with no leadership experience that failed at the only job she was given as VP.

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

No. trump survived impeachment due to the cowardly actions of the Republicans and gross breach of the Oath of Office to support the Constitution.

A laugh emoji on that post isn't enough, so here you go

3 hours ago, TechnoHippie said:

OMG people... enough already.   President Trump wasn’t that bad, other than when he incited an insurrection against the government, mismanaged a pandemic that killed nearly half a million Americans, separated children from their families, lost those children in the bureaucracy, tear-gassed peaceful protesters on Lafayette Square so he could hold a photo op holding a Bible in front of a church, tried to block all Muslims from entering the country, got impeached, got impeached again, had the worst jobs record of any president in modern history, pressured Ukraine to dig dirt on Joe Biden, fired the FBI director for investigating his ties to Russia, bragged about firing the FBI director on TV, took Vladimir Putin’s word over the US intelligence community, diverted military funding to build his wall, caused the longest government shutdown in US history, called Black Lives Matter a “symbol of hate,” lied nearly 30,000 times, banned transgender people from serving in the military, ejected reporters from the White House briefing room who asked tough questions, vetoed the defense funding bill because it renamed military bases named for Confederate soldiers, refused to release his tax returns, increased the national debt by nearly $8 trillion, had three of the highest annual trade deficits in U.S. history, called veterans and soldiers who died in combat losers and suckers, coddled the leader of Saudi Arabia after he ordered the execution and dismembering of a US-based journalist, refused to concede the 2020 election, hired his unqualified daughter and son-in-law to work in the White House, walked out of an interview with Lesley Stahl, called neo-Nazis “very fine people,” suggested that people should inject bleach into their bodies to fight COVID, abandoned our allies the Kurds to Turkey, pushed through massive tax cuts for the wealthiest but balked at helping working Americans, incited anti-lockdown protestors in several states at the height of the pandemic, withdrew the US from the Paris climate accords, withdrew the US from the Iranian nuclear deal, withdrew the US from the Trans Pacific Partnership which was designed to block China’s advances, insulted his own Cabinet members on Twitter, pushed the leader of Montenegro out of the way during a photo op, failed to reiterate US commitment to defending NATO allies, called Haiti and African nations “<deleted>hole” countries, called the city of Baltimore the “worst in the nation,” claimed that he single handedly brought back the phrase “Merry Christmas” even though it hadn’t gone anywhere, forced his Cabinet members to praise him publicly like some cult leader, believed he should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, berated and belittled his hand-picked Attorney General when he recused himself from the Russia probe, suggested the US should buy Greenland, colluded with Mitch McConnell to push through federal judges and two Supreme Court justices after supporting efforts to prevent his predecessor from appointing judges, repeatedly called the media “enemies of the people,” claimed that if we tested fewer people for COVID we’d have fewer cases, violated the emoluments clause, thought that Nambia was a country, told Bob Woodward in private that the coronavirus was a big deal but then downplayed it in public, called his exceedingly faithful vice president a “p---y” for following the Constitution, nearly got us into a war with Iran after threatening them by tweet, nominated a corrupt head of the EPA, nominated a corrupt head of HHS, nominated a corrupt head of the Interior Department, nominated a corrupt head of the USDA, praised dictators and authoritarians around the world while criticizing allies, refused to allow the presidential transition to begin, insulted war hero John McCain – even after his death, spent an obscene amount of time playing golf after criticizing Barack Obama for playing (far less) golf while president, falsely claimed that he won the 2016 popular vote, called the Muslim mayor of London a “stone cold loser,” falsely claimed that he turned down being Time’s Man of the Year, considered firing special counsel Robert Mueller on several occasions, mocked wearing face masks to guard against transmitting COVID, locked Congress out of its constitutional duty to confirm Cabinet officials by hiring acting ones, used a racist dog whistle by calling COVID the “China virus,” hired and associated with numerous shady figures that were eventually convicted of federal offenses including his campaign manager and national security adviser, pardoned several of his shady associates, gave the Presidential Medal of Freedom to two congressman who amplified his bat<deleted> crazy conspiracy theories, got into telephone fight with the leader of Australia(!), had a Secretary of State who called him a moron, forced his press secretary to claim without merit that his was the largest inauguration crowd in history, botched the COVID vaccine rollout, tweeted so much dangerous propaganda that Twitter eventually banned him, charged the Secret Service jacked-up rates at his properties, constantly interrupted Joe Biden in their first presidential debate, claimed that COVID would “magically” disappear, called a U.S. Senator “Pocahontas,” used his Twitter account to blast Nordstrom when it stopped selling Ivanka’s merchandise, opened up millions of pristine federal lands to development and drilling, got into a losing tariff war with China that forced US taxpayers to bail out farmers, claimed that his losing tariff war was a win for the US, ignored or didn’t even take part in daily intelligence briefings, blew off honoring American war dead in France because it was raining, redesigned Air Force One to look like the Trump Shuttle, got played by Kim Jung Un and his “love letters,” threatened to go after social media companies in clear violation of the Constitution, botched the response to Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico, threw paper towels at Puerto Ricans when he finally visited them, pressured the governor and secretary of state of Georgia to “find” him votes, thought that the Virgin islands had a President, drew on a map with a Sharpie to justify his inaccurate tweet that Alabama was threatened by a hurricane, allowed White House staff to use personal email accounts for official businesses after blasting Hillary Clinton for doing the same thing, rolled back regulations that protected the public from mercury and asbestos, pushed regulators to waste time studying snake-oil remedies for COVID, rolled back regulations that stopped coal companies from dumping waste into rivers, held blatant campaign rallies at the White House, tried to take away millions of Americans’ health insurance because the law was named for a Black man, refused to attend his successors’ inauguration, nominated the worst Education Secretary in history, threatened judges who didn’t do what he wanted, attacked Dr. Anthony Fauci, promised that Mexico would pay for the wall (it didn’t), allowed political hacks to overrule government scientists on major reports on climate change and other issues, struggled navigating a ramp after claiming his opponent was feeble, called an African-American Congresswoman “low IQ,” threatened to withhold federal aid from states and cities with Democratic leaders, went ahead with rallies filled with maskless supporters in the middle of a pandemic, claimed that legitimate investigations of his wrongdoing were “witch hunts,” seemed to demonstrate a belief that there were airports during the American Revolution, demanded “total loyalty” from the FBI director, praised a conspiracy theory that Democrats are Satanic pedophiles, completely gutted the Voice of America, placed a political hack in charge of the Postal Service, claimed without evidence that the Obama administration bugged Trump Tower, suggested that the US should allow more people from places like Norway into the country, suggested that COVID wasn’t that bad because he recovered with the help of top government doctors and treatments not available to the public, overturned energy conservation standards that even industry supported, reduced the number of refugees the US accepts, insulted various members of Congress and the media with infantile nicknames, gave Rush Limbaugh a Presidential medal of Freedom at the State of the Union address, named as head of federal personnel a 29-year old who’d previously been fired from the White House for allegations of financial improprieties, eliminated the White House office of pandemic response, used soldiers as campaign props, fired any advisor who made the mistake of disagreeing with him, demanded the Pentagon throw him a Soviet-style military parade, hired a <deleted> ton of white nationalists, politicized the civil service, did absolutely nothing after Russia hacked the U.S. government, falsely said the Boy Scouts called him to say his bizarre Jamboree speech was the best speech ever given to the Scouts, claimed that Black people would overrun the suburbs if Biden won, insulted reporters of color, insulted women reporters, insulted women reporters of color, suggested he was fine with China’s oppression of the Uighurs, attacked the Supreme Court when it ruled against him, summoned Pennsylvania state legislative leaders to the White House to pressure them to overturn the election, spent countless hours every day watching Fox News, refused to allow his administration to comply with Congressional subpoenas, hired Rudy Giuliani as his lawyer, tried to punish Amazon because the Jeff Bezos-owned Washington Post wrote negative stories about him, acted as if the Attorney General of the United States was his personal attorney, attempted to get the federal government to defend him in a libel lawsuit from a women who accused him of sexual assault, held private meetings with Vladimir Putin without staff present, didn’t disclose his private meetings with Vladimir Putin so that the US had to find out via Russian media, stopped holding press briefings for months at a time, “ordered” US companies to leave China even though he has no such power, led a political party that couldn’t even be bothered to draft a policy platform, claimed preposterously that Article II of the Constitution gave him absolute powers, tried to pressure the U.K. to hold the British Open at his golf course, suggested that the government nuke hurricanes, suggested that wind turbines cause cancer, said that he had a special aptitude for science, fired the head of election cyber security after he said that the 2020 election was secure, blurted out classified information to Russian officials, tried to force the G7 to hold their meeting at his failing golf resort in Florida, fired the acting attorney general when she refused to go along with his unconstitutional Muslim travel ban, hired Stephen Miller, openly discussed national security issues in the dining room at Mar-a-Lago where everyone could hear them, interfered with plans to relocate the FBI because a new development there might compete with his hotel, abandoned Iraqi refugees who’d helped the U.S. during the war, tried to get Russia back into the G7, held a COVID super spreader event in the Rose Garden, seemed to believe that Frederick Douglass is still alive, lost 60 election fraud cases in court including before judges he had nominated, falsely claimed that factories were reopening when they weren’t, shamelessly exploited terror attacks in Europe to justify his anti-immigrant policies, still hasn’t come up with a healthcare plan, still hasn’t come up with an infrastructure plan despite repeated “Infrastructure Weeks,” forced Secret Service agents to drive him around Walter Reed while contagious with COVID, told the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by,” <deleted> up the Census, withdrew the U.S. from the World Health Organization in the middle of a pandemic, did so few of his duties that his press staff were forced to state on his daily schedule “President Trump will work from early in the morning until late in the evening. He will make many calls and have many meetings,” allowed his staff to repeatedly violate the Hatch Act, seemed not to know that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, stood before sacred CIA wall of heroes and bragged about his election win, constantly claimed he was treated worse than any president which presumably includes four that were assassinated and his predecessor whose legitimacy and birthplace were challenged by a racist reality TV show star named Donald Trump, claimed Andrew Jackson could’ve stopped the Civil War even though he died 16 years before it happened, said that any opinion poll showing him behind was fake, claimed that other countries laughed at us before he became president when several world leaders were literally laughing at him, claimed that the military was out of ammunition before he became President, created a commission to whitewash American history, retweeted anti-Islam videos from one of the most racist people in Britain, claimed ludicrously that the Pulse nightclub shooting wouldn’t have happened if someone there had a gun even though there was an armed security guard there, hired a senior staffer who cited the non-existent Bowling Green Massacre as a reason to ban Muslims, had a press secretary who claimed that Nazi Germany never used chemical weapons even though every sane human being knows they used gas to kill millions of Jews and others, bilked the Secret Service for higher than market rates when they had to stay at Trump properties, apparently sold pardons on his way out of the White House, stripped protective status from 59,000 Haitians, falsely claimed Biden wanted to defund the police, said that the head of the CDC didn’t know what he was talking about, tried to rescind protection from DREAMers, gave himself an A+ for his handling of the pandemic, tried to start a boycott of Goodyear tires due to an Internet hoax, said U.S. rates of COVID would be lower if you didn’t count blue states, deported U.S. veterans who served their country but were undocumented, claimed he did more for African Americans than any president since Lincoln, touted a “super-duper” secret “hydrosonic” missile which may or may not be a new “hypersonic” missile or may not exist at all, retweeted a gif calling Biden a pedophile, forced through security clearances for his family, suggested that police officers should rough up suspects, suggested that Biden was on performance-enhancing drugs, tried to stop transgender students from being able to use school bathrooms in line with their gender, suggested the US not accept COVID patients from a cruise ship because it would make US numbers look higher, nominated a climate change sceptic to chair the committee advising the White House on environmental policy, retweeted a video doctored to look like Biden had played a song called “<deleted> tha Police” at a campaign event, hugged a disturbingly large number of U.S. flags, accused Democrats of “treason” for not applauding his State of the Union address, claimed that the FBI failed to capture the Parkland school shooter because they were “spending too much time” on Russia, mocked the testimony of Dr Christine Blasey Ford when she accused Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault, obsessed over low-flow toilets, ordered the rerelease of more COVID vaccines when there weren’t any to release, called for the construction of a bizarre garden of heroes with statutes of famous dead Americans as well as at least one Canadian (Alex Trebek), hijacked Washington’s July 4th celebrations to give a partisan speech, took advice from the MyPillow guy, claimed that migrants seeking a better life in the US were dangerous caravans of drug dealers and rapists, said nothing when Vladimir Putin poisoned a leading opposition figure, never seemed to heed the advice of his wife’s “Be Best” campaign, falsely claimed that mail-in voting is fraudulent, announced a precipitous withdrawal of troops from Syria which not only handed Russia and ISIS a win but also prompted his defense secretary to resign in protest, insulted the leader of Canada, insulted the leader of France, insulted the leader of Britain, insulted the leader of Germany, insulted the leader of Sweden (Sweden!!), falsely claimed credit for getting NATO members to increase their share of dues, blew off two Asia summits even though they were held virtually, continued lying about spending lots of time at Ground Zero with 9/11 responders, said that the Japanese would sit back and watch their “Sony televisions” if the US were ever attacked, left a NATO summit early in a huff, stared directly into an eclipse even though everyone over the age of 5 knows not to do that, called himself a very stable genius despite significant evidence to the contrary, refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power and kept his promise, making an INSUFFERABLE 10+ min speech about the size of Arnold Palmer's PENIS and a whole bunch of other things I can’t remember at the moment.

But other than that.....

 

 

You missed the part where he didn't start any wars. No Americans died because he went to war on BS like a few other presidents have done. Biden/ Harris may not have actually started one, yet, but they are up to their eyeballs in the 2 wars they are prolonging ( I'm classing Gaza/ the West Bank/ Lebanon as one conflict ).

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I can't see how anyone could support Harris. IMO a warmonger with no leadership experience that failed at the only job she was given as VP.

 

Once again, the Dems fail to find someone who doesn't give people the creeps because they focus way too much on their candidate not being Trump and also believing their own lies.

 

It seems like Biden was literally the only person they could find with even a hint of "the good guy" about him, and he dropped out due to dementia, so they're back to a corporate shill, similar to Hillary, who everyone can see is completely out of touch with normal people.

 

Trump has a pretty good chance this time.

Just now, BangkokReady said:

 

Once again, the Dems fail to find someone who doesn't give people the creeps because they focus way too much on their candidate not being Trump and also believing their own lies.

 

It seems like Biden was literally the only person they could find with even a hint of "the good guy" about him, and he dropped out due to dementia, so they're back to a corporate shill, similar to Hillary, who everyone can see is completely out of touch with normal people.

 

Trump has a pretty good chance this time.

If I thought the deity listened to mere humans I'd be on my knees praying for a Harris defeat. Hopefully it's a 2016 repeat.

If Harris wins I'm stocking up the supplies for WW3 ensuing, or at least a major war in the ME, which would be almost as bad for Australasia.

9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You missed the part where he didn't start any wars. No Americans died because he went to war on BS like a few other presidents have done. Biden/ Harris may not have actually started one, yet, but they are up to their eyeballs in the 2 wars they are prolonging ( I'm classing Gaza/ the West Bank/ Lebanon as one conflict ).

 

Just an matter of good luck timing for trump. Though at the beginning of his presidency made an error of judgement with an attack in Yemen. Plus of course trump made the terrible mistake of negotiating directly with Taliban, excluding the Afghan government and committing to a withdrawal date. I doubt many agree Biden / Harris should not be assisting Ukraine / Israel, nor do I believe trump can reach a reasonable peace agreement for Ukrainian interests.

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

There is no reason for a delay in handing out punishment once he is denied a victory and declared a two-time loser. Many of us know that's the only reason why he hasn't been sentenced already. This is a man who has spent his entire career defrauding people, making billions off of the bad fortune of people who have worked for him, and a multitude other scams.

 

He richly deserves to be locked up. 

 

 

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What ideological side,who is unrecognizable by JFK standards wants to , wish him jailed, wish him exterminated,Wish to destroy the electoral college, ban voter ID, censor free speech, pack the SC.

Below the Senator from the great state of Missouri, who helped in bringing , Missouri vs Biden and the twitter files to fruition .

 

 

46 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

This sounds a lot like "whataboutism".

 

The point is that Biden has made calls similar to that which Trump is criticised for making, so pointing out that Trump has done it also is meaningless.

Then we can agree this whole thread was began in meaningless whataboutism

 

49 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They won't because if they do it to him, the next time there is a GOP POTUS and congress they'll be paid back.

 

I'm so looking forward to Trump winning.

Nonsense. Your side has been calling for jailings for investigating everthing  going back, well to the Clintons All they could get was that ol horny goats consensual BJ.  Obama, Hillary, Biden squeaky clean compared to th walking crime wave DJT.

 

A Trump handed a custodial sentence would be given house arrest at the worst. They would cite security reasons. Really just priviledge as an American President jailed would cause the whole system to be called into question, an international embarrassment. Even a Presidential pardon from Harris would be in the cards "for the good of the country" in exchange for certain promises

 

22 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Why aren't you there then?

 

If I was a citizen of the country with the best economy in the world, I'd be living there.

Hmm, there are those capable of some critical thinking, handy as the world is complex. I fully recognize the justified frustration/anger built up within the working middle class as the result of the policies/actions inactions by both US major political parties over the past decades at both the state and national levels. Unfortunately, no major addressing of the issues was done by either party. Along comes Donald Trump, a being wholly unworthy and unqualified but … he has given voice to the frustration/anger. And so off they go, in ignorance, following the Pied Piper. It has happened before in history but, Americans are well known for their non-caring ignorance of the past. They want action … even self destructive action as they are tired of the status quo. I do not know if we will survive this brush with the end of my country but if we do … it will only delay if both parties do not see that their current direction has lost the support of the working middle class upon whom any hope of a U.S. participatory democracy depends.

I also say he should be locked up now - nothing to do with what Biden had said or done!

 

Trump. among other serious issues is a convicted criminal and fraudster.

 

Sentencing has been delayed until after the election.

 

Whether he is elected or not Trump is in his own self-made mire and will have plenty of time to repent at leisure and to stew in his own juice in CLINK!

 

And justice will not have been delivered if that doesn't happen!