Harris, Biden camps blame each other for loss

[riclag]

3 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

I always thought that was hilarious. DeNiro trying to talk tough about Trump, playing the rough man. In reality he is just another coddled celebrity who reads the words that others put in front of him. And its a pity, because he is a generational talent as an actor. But that doesnt give him any cred as a political commentator whatsoever. 

Turns out a few celebrities in American politics got it Right!

 

Ronald Regan comes to mind

[howlee101]

11 hours ago, blaze master said:

These threads will get boring so quick now. There is no debate or arguments.

 

The other side has simple vanished. Weird.

 

Usually by now there would of been at least 4 posters reminding you about the convicted felon. 

Weird.

 

They retreated to the designated safe space with an ample supply of coloring books and tissues for the crying 😜

Edited Sunday at 09:46 PM by howlee101

[wombat]

Nancy Pelosi is responsible for the loss.

The beginning of the end was when she wesponised impeachment.

She will go down in American history as one of the most evil women ever.

[Thingamabob]

16 hours ago, novacova said:

Blame Trump for having superior leadership and policies and a good work ethic.

There can be no doubt about DJT's good work ethic. He has earned his victory.

[daveAustin]

Posit they failed because people are just sick and tired of the direction the left is taking us (let's face it, however good their intentions, all they seem to do is blether and sow discord) so they went with the alternative however drastic that may be. They will now whine and fight tooth and nail rather than try to find common ground and move forwards.

[thesetat2013]

16 hours ago, dinsdale said:

No need for finger pointing. The Biden/Harris admin was dismal as was Harris' completely negative, celebrity studded campaign. As for the above from Pelosi, Biden didn't "get out", he was pushed and he was pushed hard. It's the Pelosi's of the party who are truly to blame.

I do not think it was only about BIden or Harris. The people all across the country voted out the Democrats in every government office. Not only the presidency. To lay blame on one person or campaign would be wrong since it appears the country has given up on the Democrats ideology across the board. 

[daveAustin]

10 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

I always thought that was hilarious. DeNiro trying to talk tough about Trump, playing the rough man. In reality he is just another coddled celebrity who reads the words that others put in front of him. And its a pity, because he is a generational talent as an actor. But that doesnt give him any cred as a political commentator whatsoever. 

De Niro went right down in my estimation after this. Left or right, as an actor stfu and stick to your day job. On actors and their opinion, Ricky Gervais (who is actually left himself) had the measure of it:

 

"... if you do win an award tonight, don't use it as a platform to make a political speech. You're in no position to lecture the public about anything. You know nothing about the real world. Most of you spent less time in school than Greta Thunberg.

So if you win, come up, accept your little award, thank your agent, and your God and f*** off!"

  - Ricky Gervais

[jippytum]

Don't you just love to see the righteous Dems infighting after a rout at the polls. 

Joe's wife was reluctant to give up the first lady title  and was the only person who thought Joe was fit to continue. 

[ignore it]

Will one of the Harris Fanboy-Curmudgeons please post something negative about Trump.

 

My fingers are tired from giving thumbs up and +1 notifications.

[newnative]

    Plenty of blame to go around on both sides.  Looking forward, there's also plenty of work to do, as well.  The Dems lost ground on just about every voter demographic except educated Whites.  If you're a Dem, that should be a big wake-up call.  It was for me.   How to win back these voters needs to be Job 1. 

    As I mentioned in another thread, the Dems have too few solid Blue states to count on these days, while the Reps have lots of very solid Red states that give them a big Electoral College lead right from the get-go, with the Dems scrambling around trying to win 'swing' states that aren't very swingy any more. 

   Biden won the popular vote in 2020 by 7 million votes yet he barely won the EC.  Scary.  Every election, the Dems lately are starting in an EC hole.  And, as a poster pointed out to me, at the next Census some of the Blue states will be losing EC votes, so the Red states lead will likely increase unless the Dems can turn things around.   For the Dem leadership, do some useless bickering and even more useless 'what-ifs' for a few days more, and then get to work.

[Sydebolle]

Lick your wounds all day long ........ the majority has spoken.

So go back and do your homework better and queue up in four years again - simple as that. 

[oxo1947]

 

Why she didn't do more Interviews---I guess that all comes down to the old saying --

 

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open  your mouth and remove all doubt"

 

[zepplin]

With Elon and RFK at his side, trump might actually do some good this time around, and a big bonus is his stance on crypto and a cashless society!  Go Doge, up 99% in a week , go all In Or go home!

[Nid_Noi]

31 minutes ago, newnative said:

    Plenty of blame to go around on both sides.  Looking forward, there's also plenty of work to do, as well.  The Dems lost ground on just about every voter demographic except educated Whites.  If you're a Dem, that should be a big wake-up call.  It was for me.   How to win back these voters needs to be Job 1. 

    As I mentioned in another thread, the Dems have too few solid Blue states to count on these days, while the Reps have lots of very solid Red states that give them a big Electoral College lead right from the get-go, with the Dems scrambling around trying to win 'swing' states that aren't very swingy any more. 

   Biden won the popular vote in 2020 by 7 million votes yet he barely won the EC.  Scary.  Every election, the Dems lately are starting in an EC hole.  And, as a poster pointed out to me, at the next Census some of the Blue states will be losing EC votes, so the Red states lead will likely increase unless the Dems can turn things around.   For the Dem leadership, do some useless bickering and even more useless 'what-ifs' for a few days more, and then get to work.

No president in the history of the US had more than 70 millions popular votes. Trump is the first one. How a guy who did not campaign, was among the worst candidate at the 2020 primaries (except KH) managed to get almost 82 millions votes??

I just watched again the 2020 democratic debates and I can assure you Biden had already signs of cognitive troubles.

[Dave0206]

Yes trump won and Harris did not concede fast enough for you 🙄. 

Again 2 standards .

Let's give him a chance which is more than you can say other way round and if he doesn't live up to the hype it's ok because he may say something doesn't mean that's what he meant right ?

[oxo1947]

Harris, Biden camps blame each other for loss

 

Its great isn't it----that should keep them busy for the rest of this year.......

[spidermike007]

It is both the Harris and the Biden camps that are responsible for what was a stunning loss. There were so many things that were done wrong, Biden should have been asked to step aside two and a half years ago, Harris should have been more on point with the issues, the border should have been talked about more openly, the economy should have been talked about more openly, the reality is this election loss is entirely on the dems and they must take responsibility or they are doomed to repeat themselves over and over and over. 

 

Trump simply took advantage of the fact that for many people it was the only option, regardless of how much they might have disliked him personally. 

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, oxo1947 said:

Harris, Biden camps blame each other for loss

 

Its great isn't it----that should keep them busy for the rest of this year.......

Headlines like that make my heart sing. There hasn't been much to be cheerful about for the past 3 years, but Trump winning has changed that.

I was expecting Trump to lose, after months in the courts, but he cleaned the floor with her, and all done and dusted on the same day. She never even looked like winning.

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It is both the Harris and the Biden camps that are responsible for what was a stunning loss. There were so many things that were done wrong, Biden should have been asked to step aside two and a half years ago, Harris should have been more on point with the issues, the border should have been talked about more openly, the economy should have been talked about more openly, the reality is this election loss is entirely on the dems and they must take responsibility or they are doomed to repeat themselves over and over and over. 

 

Trump simply took advantage of the fact that for many people it was the only option, regardless of how much they might have disliked him personally. 

Biden should have been asked to step aside two and a half years ago,

Agree, and Harris would have had to compete in a primary which she would have lost.

 

Trump simply took advantage of the fact that for many people it was the only option, regardless of how much they might have disliked him personally. 

Obviously I have to agree with that, as it's what I have been telling you for months.

[Yagoda]

The entire Democratic Party sucks, thats why they lost.

[riclag]

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

The entire Democratic Party sucks, thats why they lost.

Some went too far left , as we can see below!

Majority of Americans had enough!

They chose Trump again ,despite him not being a politician and not being 

Presidential!

 

 

 

 

 

[metisdead]

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[mogandave]

 Bob Casey in PA trying to overturn the most free and fair election in the history of the World!

 

Calling on his supporters to “find” votes!!!!

 

He should be prosecuted for insurrection.

 

 

[riclag]

4 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 Bob Casey in PA trying to overturn the most free and fair election in the history of the World!

 

Calling on his supporters to “find” votes!!!!

 

He should be prosecuted for insurrection.

 

 

For our international friends

 

https://www.wgal.com/article/casey-mccormick-where-does-pennsylvanias-us-senate-race-stand/62871061

[Nid_Noi]

29 minutes ago, riclag said:

Some went too far left , as we can see below!

Majority of Americans had enough!

They chose Trump again ,despite him not being a politician and not being 

Presidential!

 

 

 

 

 

These candidates had already lost the elections in 2020 and the next ones in 2024.

Don’t tell me Biden got over 81 million popular votes. Biden the backbencher with nothing to his credit and Harris the Marxist-Leninist had nothing in common especially in terms of policies and achievements.

[riclag]

1 hour ago, Nid_Noi said:

These candidates had already lost the elections in 2020 and the next ones in 2024.

Don’t tell me Biden got over 81 million popular votes. Biden the backbencher with nothing to his credit and Harris the Marxist-Leninist had nothing in common especially in terms of policies and achievements.

Some people in charge with investigation authority might look into 

this now that Trumps in office!

[ifmu]

On 11/10/2024 at 2:17 PM, novacova said:

Blame Trump for having superior leadership and policies and a good work ethic. 

Is this a joke ?

take away all politics   and trump is the most despicable person i have seen

twice impeached  convicted of multiple criminal offenses  bribery sexual assault

now what does that make the people that voted for him  

 

[riclag]

41 minutes ago, ifmu said:

Is this a joke ?

take away all politics   and trump is the most despicable person i have seen

twice impeached  convicted of multiple criminal offenses  bribery sexual assault

now what does that make the people that voted for him  

 

I gave you a confused emoji.Yes it is a joke despite the weaponized Doj (Mr. Matt Colangello ) retiring and joining Bragg.

Despite Garland hiring Smith without Congress approval.

Despite  dem Prosecutors bias in Georgia and NY. 
In my country its un American To use Lawfare to go after a Presidential Political opponent.

 

Dem impeached  2x.

4 Dem prosecutors  charged him.

Bribery charges were invented  in a 

city that votes 90% dem ! The conviction isnt officially adjudicated, so not official .

The sexual assault was a civil matter .

https://www.foxnews.com/media/jonathan-turley-president-trump-biggest-problem-e-jean-carroll-case-did-not-testify

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 08:50 AM by riclag

[ifmu]

13 minutes ago, riclag said:

I gave you a confused emoji.Yes it is a joke despite the weaponized Doj (Mr. Matt Colangello ) retiring and joining Bragg.

Despite Garland hiring Smith without Congress approval.

Despite  dem Prosecutors bias in Georgia and NY. 
In my country its un American To use Lawfare to go after a Presidential Political opponent.

 

Dem impeached  2x.

4 Dem prosecutors  charged him.

Bribery charges were invented  in a 

city that votes 90% dem ! The conviction isnt officially adjudicated, so not official .

The sexual assault was a civil matter .

https://www.foxnews.com/media/jonathan-turley-president-trump-biggest-problem-e-jean-carroll-case-did-not-testify

 

 

oh yah lets believe fox news  .... good going .... whataboutism  ... you folks still elected a criminal 

 

[riclag]

20 minutes ago, ifmu said:

oh yah lets believe fox news  .... good going .... whataboutism  ... you folks still elected a criminal 

 

Another confused emoji!The Msnbc is strong in you!

I use Fox news for sources to cut through Google algorithms of sending search results to the dems propaganda news networks.
 

Another lie, Prove it!

 

No criminal adjudication by a judge!

 

Edited Tuesday at 09:31 AM by riclag