What's a just OK not great not horrible holiday tip amount for condo doorman, etc.

[BigStar]

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Putting in a card in a great idea. Just handing over naked cash is kind of crass 

 

Probably not suitable your application, but gift cards can be very appropriate. Central is an old standby. Bought one at Supersports the other day for someone I know who/s into fitness.

[Airalee]

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Funny that you say that.

I was thinking people were gonna say 5 or 10K baht.

I could see such levels if you live in a super luxurious condo in Bangkok though. 

I’d bet that the super luxurious condos in Bangkok aren’t any different than the ones in the US.  When I lived at the El Royale in Los Angeles for many years, I got to know the doormen quite well and to be honest, you’re more generous (with even ฿1000) than most of the celebs that lived there.

[georgegeorgia]

14 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

Probably not suitable your application, but gift cards can be very appropriate. Central is an old standby. Bought one at Supersports the other day for someone I know who/s into fitness.

Thankyou for your service to the community,you should be nominated for the Rotary clubs community award 2024

[Wuvu2]

7 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

I asked one of them what their daily wage was. 300 baht was the reply so that was their tip 300 baht each.

 

You paid 1200 baht for a cup of coffee and bragging about it??

[georgegeorgia]

12 minutes ago, Wuvu2 said:

 

You paid 1200 baht for a cup of coffee and bragging about it??

I certainly did , I believe it's my bloody duty 

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

Saying they weren't kind when you think they should be is just saying they're unkind. Enough with trying to split a hair.

 

I'm not splitting any hairs.  To not do something kind, does not mean that someone is being unkind.  🤷‍♂️

 

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

I'm not "showing" all this meaning that's so important for you and that you need reciprocated--though even I did, I wouldn't care (odd to you, yes). What I'm showing is merely a little kindness, and I feel good when I do so. I don't overthink it, actually.

 

I disagree.  Choosing to give a gift to someone at a special time for you is very much showing a level of fondness or affection.  Unless you give Christmas gifts to random strangers (which I doubt that you do).  

 

You show kindness, you feel good, it has meaning.

 

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

And for the 4th? time, I don't expect them too. They don't have a Christmas giving tradition and don't give gifts to acquaintances unless there's a self-interested motive--which I don't need. Not the culture, period. On the other had, I've been the recipient of countless spontaneous, unsolicited little acts of kindness from Thais over the decades. Pay it forward.

 

As I said, Thais have a time when they might give gifts to people, if they don't give a gift to you, when you have given a gift to them previously, it clearly has meaning. They don't think the same way about you as you do about them.  (And you not knowing when Thais give gifts, doesn't mean it isn't the case.)

 

If you want to be in a one-sided relationship, that is up to you, but to deny it is somewhat pointless.

 

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

Are you done yet? As noted, it's too "odd" for you--and that's your problem, not mine. But whenever I ask a poster that, he has to make sure that he's not done.

 

Are you?  Do you need me not to reply so that you "win"?  🙄

[BangkokReady]

31 minutes ago, Wuvu2 said:

You paid 1200 baht for a cup of coffee and bragging about it??

 

Some people can't seem to help bragging when it comes to Thais/Thailand.  I guess there's no point in being the "big man" if you cannot boast about it.  🙄

[BangkokReady]

2 hours ago, khunJam said:

Why not consider tipping anonymously? It would cut out any future obligations that might be laid on you by the recipients.

 

That would mean they don't get the appreciation that they want.  People generally don't do thing unless they get something out of it.

 

Even the braggers here say they get appreciation and better service out of it.

[georgegeorgia]

7 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

I'm not splitting any hairs

Fantastic saying 

I will add that to my list 

Thanks 

The exact meaning?

[georgegeorgia]

6 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Some people can't seem to help bragging when it comes to Thais/Thailand.  I guess there's no point in being the "big man" if you cannot boast about it.  🙄

I'm certainly not splitting any hairs when I admit it 

[BangkokReady]

12 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Fantastic saying 

I will add that to my list 

Thanks 

The exact meaning?

 

How do you know it's fantastic if you are unsure of the meaning?

[khunJam]

25 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

That would mean they don't get the appreciation that they want.  People generally don't do thing unless they get something out of it.

 

Even the braggers here say they get appreciation and better service out of it.

So tip the beggars because they feel appreciated for doing such a great job at begging?

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, khunJam said:

So tip the beggars because they feel appreciated for doing such a great job at begging?

 

Or because you hope to receive superior service from them in the future...  🤔

[BigStar]

18 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

To not do something kind, does not mean that someone is being unkind.

 

That you think they should do something they're morally obligated to do (because of something unsolicited you did), when you think they're obligated to do it; but then they don't and just ignore you and your sensitive feelings and your cultural imposition; means unkind to you in that instance.

 

19 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Thais have a time when they might give gifts to people

 

And I noted that on those times they don't give gifts to just any people. If you happened to give a little gift to them sometime in the past, notably Christmas, for whatever reason, they have no obligation to return a gift to you. A gift isn't a loan to be repaid.

 

24 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

They don't think the same way about you as you do about them. 

 

Round and round and round. You must be getting senile.

 

For the 5th time, it doesn't matter if they do, and I don't expect them to, for reasons already explained.

 

33 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

If you want to be in a one-sided relationship

 

Irrelevant, as we're not talking about "relationships" at all. The maids in the condo mean nothing to me, and I mean nothing to them. Giving them a trivial Christmas gift doesn't change that. So I don't expect, need, or want gifts from them ever in return. They know that. I'm sure most people here agree and feel the same.

 

In personal relationships with actual friends and partners, you'd expect some kind of reciprocity. 

 

I think you're about ready for help to get out of yet another of your bickering loops.

 

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, BigStar said:

That you think they should do something they're morally obligated to do (because of something unsolicited you did), when you think they're obligated to do it; but then they don't and just ignore you and your sensitive feelings and your cultural imposition; means unkind to you in that instance.

 

Now you're just making things up.  I never said any of that.

 

Clutching at straws.

 

Someone not doing something kind, does not make them unkind.  You clearly don't know what these words mean.  An absence of kindness is not a presence of unkindness.  Think about.

 

2 minutes ago, BigStar said:

And I noted that on those times they don't give gifts to just any people. If you happened to give a little gift to them sometime in the past, notably Christmas, for whatever reason, they have no obligation to return a gift to you. A gift isn't a loan to be repaid.

 

I don't disagree, but it still shows a one-sided relationship, where you are doing something for them and they are not doing the same for you.

 

Up to you if you want that, but let's be honest about it.

 

2 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Round and round and round. You must be getting senile.

 

For the 5th time, it doesn't matter if they do, and I don't expect them to, for reasons already explained.

 

Perhaps it is you who are senile.  I never said that you expect them to.  🤦‍♂️

 

2 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Irrelevant, as we're not talking about "relationships" at all. The maids in the condo mean nothing to me, and I mean nothing to them. Giving them a trivial Christmas gift doesn't change that. So I don't expect, need, or want gifts from them ever in return. They know that. I'm sure most people here agree and feel the same.

 

In personal relationships with actual friends and partners, you'd expect some kind of reciprocity.

 

You seem to be running out of "comebacks", as you appear to be simply trying to pick holes based on your misunderstanding of words.  You do have relationships with the maids in the condo, whether they actually "mean" anything to you or not.

 

And, of course, now that your argument is running out of steam, you're changing things by suddenly saying that the gifts are trivial and then specifying that they are for maids.  

 

2 minutes ago, BigStar said:

I think you're about ready for help to get out of yet another of your bickering loops.

 

Based on the above, you're the one in a bickering loop.  You're unable to add anything, but you feel like you have to reply.  🤷‍♂️

[saakura]

There are 6 security guards (3 each on day & night shift, rotating once a month) and 8 cleaners who work 6am to 4pm. I give them 1000 Baht each for New Year and 500 Baht for Songkran, put in one of those colourful Chinese envelopes.

[CallumWK]

12 minutes ago, saakura said:

There are 6 security guards (3 each on day & night shift, rotating once a month) and 8 cleaners who work 6am to 4pm. I give them 1000 Baht each for New Year and 500 Baht for Songkran, put in one of those colourful Chinese envelopes.

 

If every owner in your complex was that generous, I guess they would earn a year salary in 1 day

[BusyB]

 

If you can afford it without ruining your own Christmas I'd say 1k into the tip box for sharing around, along with a card, a bottle of wine and a ribbon. 1k each for the two mentioned also with a bottle, ribbon and a card. (That doorman presumably also keeps an eye on who comes and goes.)

 

It's Christmas.

 

[BusyB]

50 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

If every owner in your complex was that generous, I guess they would earn a year salary in 1 day

 

I wouldn't begrudge them that. 

[Jim Blue]

Do they know its Xmas  ?