4 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Initially I was tested (back in the 80s) and diagnosed with non-specific urethritis, which as you know is a term which really means "they don't know what's causing it/they can't isolate the cause". However this kept re-occurring and when I moved to NZ, I visited a couple of top urologists and two fabulous doctors and was put on a 90 day course of doxycycline (yes, 90 days) and this stopped it for a while, until it re-occurred.

 

The symptoms were burning in the urethra and a testicle ache, but nothing else of any note. I was put on a months course of ciprofloxacin and that stopped it for a while as well, but again it re-occurred and I had no idea why. Prostatitis was the diagnosis, but maybe this was just a shot in the dark, so to speak.

 

When I contacted the two professors I spoke about previously and looked at their research (they sent me the papers they had published) it became clear to me that I had bacteria in the prostate which couldn't be reached because of the biofilm and the fact that the prostate is designed to protect itself from bacteria, so along with the biofilm, no antibiotics were able to reach the culprit.

 

However I did try their recommendation of Monural and doxycycline, and that combination worked and I haven't suffered from that for many years now.

 

The episode with the E. coli was separate from the above and was a result of my neurogenic bladder.

 

In summary, I went to the best urologists in New Zealand along with two great doctors, and two urologists here and it wasn't until I got in touch with the professors (already mentioned) that I was able to be free of it.

 

As for your question "what kind of prostatitis", well I was never given a clear explanation of what I had, however I don't suffer from it any more so am pleased about that, now got to try and find a way to activate the detrusor in my bladder, so I'm going to try stem cells as nobody seems to be able to cure it, so it's a long shot and there's nothing much else I can try I'm afraid.

 

Sorry to have gone off track a little.
 

Thank for openly describing your problem.

One last remark: do you do exercises as I mentioned?

Just now, newbee2022 said:

Thank for openly describing your problem.

One last remark: do you do exercises as I mentioned?

No problem with being open on my problem, especially if it helps somebody else in a similar situation.

 

When this first started at age 30 or thereabouts, I was playing a good standard of amateur football, training twice a week and also playing in a Sunday league, so I was fit when all this was occurring. I played football up until I was 45 and thereafter played a good standard of tennis, finally stopping when I moved here (Thailand) when I was 58 years old, so as you can see I was pretty fit when all this started and now I'm 77 and free of this cursed condition, I'm not keen on doing any more training (lol).

 

My main concern now is to try get my bladder working and I had all the tests done at Bumrungrad and I got no answer, just that my detrusor muscle was "underactive", meaning it didn't work!! Hence the reason I'm trying the stem cell treatment, because I'm extremely tired of having to push a catheter down the "old fella" every night in order to drain out the urine.

 

According to the urologist there, this usually happens as a result of an accident/paralysis or illness which affects the neural system – – none of which I've had?
 

As to the cause of my prostatitis,a couple of years ago I had a prostate cancer biopsy (following an MRI at Bumrungrad that found 2 suspicious 'lumps in my prostate).  That biopsy found no cancer cells, but did find 2 benign prostate stones. No idea if that can lead to prostatitis.  Also, I have BPH, which could mean that my bladder isn't emptying completely.  That BPH hasn't worsened over the last 15 years, and I do limit my BPH medicine nowadays because I don't need it so much - I'm able to (slowly) pee.

 

I fast-walk between 5-10km every day, eat healthy food, don't drink alcohol or smoke - so generally reasonably fit (70kg, 174cm) for my age.

 

I'll see how this Monurol goes, but if no luck then I'll contact the recommended doctor in Pattaya 🙂

43 minutes ago, xylophone said:

No problem with being open on my problem, especially if it helps somebody else in a similar situation.

 

When this first started at age 30 or thereabouts, I was playing a good standard of amateur football, training twice a week and also playing in a Sunday league, so I was fit when all this was occurring. I played football up until I was 45 and thereafter played a good standard of tennis, finally stopping when I moved here (Thailand) when I was 58 years old, so as you can see I was pretty fit when all this started and now I'm 77 and free of this cursed condition, I'm not keen on doing any more training (lol).

 

My main concern now is to try get my bladder working and I had all the tests done at Bumrungrad and I got no answer, just that my detrusor muscle was "underactive", meaning it didn't work!! Hence the reason I'm trying the stem cell treatment, because I'm extremely tired of having to push a catheter down the "old fella" every night in order to drain out the urine.

 

According to the urologist there, this usually happens as a result of an accident/paralysis or illness which affects the neural system – – none of which I've had?
 

Maybe I'm annoying, but I would like to come back what I pointed out:

You admitted not to do or dislike sports?

Well, you have to overcome yourself. And I'm convinced with a little bit of special exercise your conditions will improve:

Pelvic floor training is a completely unknown area for many men. That's why you first have to find out how you feel the pelvic floor. Exercises: finding the pelvic floor. A simple basic exercise helps: act as if you wanted to stop the stream of urine and contract the corresponding muscles a few times. Then squeeze your buttocks several times. The area between the muscles you have just contracted one after the other is the one that matters. This is the perineum, which consists primarily of pelvic floor muscles. You can train this area unnoticed in everyday life, while standing at the bus stop, talking on the phone, brushing your teeth, at the checkout in the supermarket or even while sitting at your desk or in front of the TV.

You want to give a try?

 

27 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Maybe I'm annoying, but I would like to come back what I pointed out:

You admitted not to do or dislike sports?

Well, you have to overcome yourself. And I'm convinced with a little bit of special exercise your conditions will improve:

Pelvic floor training is a completely unknown area for many men. That's why you first have to find out how you feel the pelvic floor. Exercises: finding the pelvic floor. A simple basic exercise helps: act as if you wanted to stop the stream of urine and contract the corresponding muscles a few times. Then squeeze your buttocks several times. The area between the muscles you have just contracted one after the other is the one that matters. This is the perineum, which consists primarily of pelvic floor muscles. You can train this area unnoticed in everyday life, while standing at the bus stop, talking on the phone, brushing your teeth, at the checkout in the supermarket or even while sitting at your desk or in front of the TV.

You want to give a try?

 

Thanks for reminding me of this exercise! 
I would like to also suggest the areas of herbal medicine and diet, where there is much to address the issue. 

31 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Maybe I'm annoying, but I would like to come back what I pointed out:

You admitted not to do or dislike sports?

Well, you have to overcome yourself. And I'm convinced with a little bit of special exercise your conditions will improve:

Pelvic floor training is a completely unknown area for many men. That's why you first have to find out how you feel the pelvic floor. Exercises: finding the pelvic floor. A simple basic exercise helps: act as if you wanted to stop the stream of urine and contract the corresponding muscles a few times. Then squeeze your buttocks several times. The area between the muscles you have just contracted one after the other is the one that matters. This is the perineum, which consists primarily of pelvic floor muscles. You can train this area unnoticed in everyday life, while standing at the bus stop, talking on the phone, brushing your teeth, at the checkout in the supermarket or even while sitting at your desk or in front of the TV.

You want to give a try?

 

Thanks for your interest and you are not annoying me in the slightest!

 

I seem to recall trying the pelvic floor training when this started, and racking my brains now, I think it started soon after I had a bladder neck incision here because of a poor stream??? However it didn't seem to help, but I'm willing to give it a try as I've got nothing to lose.

 

As I said previously I did have many tests done at Bumrungrad and nothing was recommended apart from CIC (clean intermittent catheterisation) which is what I practice now, but as I said previously, it is a pain, literally and figuratively.

 

So I will give it a try, and if I do how long before I can expect any results?? 

One action that I did take a few days ago was to order some P.Harmala seeds, a plant that grows in south-east Iran.

 

According to this scientific study:

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4353063/

 

P. Harmala seeds were found to be quite effective against ESBL E.Coli, with a daily dosage of 1 gram of seeds.

33 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Thanks for your interest and you are not annoying me in the slightest!

 

I seem to recall trying the pelvic floor training when this started, and racking my brains now, I think it started soon after I had a bladder neck incision here because of a poor stream??? However it didn't seem to help, but I'm willing to give it a try as I've got nothing to lose.

 

As I said previously I did have many tests done at Bumrungrad and nothing was recommended apart from CIC (clean intermittent catheterisation) which is what I practice now, but as I said previously, it is a pain, literally and figuratively.

 

So I will give it a try, and if I do how long before I can expect any results?? 

Some patients will feel an ease after a week, some after a month.

46 minutes ago, friendphil said:

Thanks for reminding me of this exercise! 
I would like to also suggest the areas of herbal medicine and diet, where there is much to address the issue. 

Yes, that's also on my agenda. Pumpkin seeds and saw palmetto extract.

OP should get a new culture with sensitivity test.

Culture should be done after prostate massage (not every doctor will do this).

Ask to include sensitivity test for 

- doxicycline (won't help by itself,  but may be added to fosfomycin)

- fosfomycin (if sensitive,  discuss with your urologist the length of treatment, 3 doses is not very long)

- sitafloxacin (some ESBL are sensitive to high-dose sitafloxacin)

These 3 are conspicuously absent from your posted antibiogram. 

Taking any antibiotic without a new sensitivity test would be stupid. 

 

it could be fungal hence, no antibiotic will do any good... 

 

Fungal prostatitis is a rare infection of the prostate caused by fungi. It can develop after long-term antibiotic treatment for bacterial prostatitis. Fungal prostatitis can be difficult to diagnose. 

5 hours ago, Justanotherone said:

it could be fungal hence, no antibiotic will do any good... 

 

Fungal prostatitis is a rare infection of the prostate caused by fungi. It can develop after long-term antibiotic treatment for bacterial prostatitis. Fungal prostatitis can be difficult to diagnose. 

The OP has had a thorough workup in the UK and a bacteria was cultured.

Unfortunately it is resistant to many drugs and he was advised he needs a prolonged course of intravenous therapy with a costly class of drugs called carbenams.

 

This resistance very likely results from prior (incomplete) treatments and attempts at self treatment so others should take note.,

 

 

1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

The OP has had a thorough workup in the UK and a bacteria was cultured.

Unfortunately it is resistant to many drugs and he was advised he needs a prolonged course of intravenous therapy with a class of drugs called carbenams.

 

Thsi resitsance very likely results form prior (incomplete) treatemenbts and attempts at self treatment so others should take note.,

 

 

 

I agee, but if they did not TEST for a fungal infection, only bacteria...

 

being a man myself, who had a persistent infection in the past, due to... I just gave my 50 satang opinion, to think out of the box

Would a natural herbal antibiotic help? https://uribiotic.com/uribiotic-formula-ingredients/

The results you desire will more likely occur when you realise the human being is more than just a physical body.  You need to do your job too and not just rely on a tablet or treatment.

 

You also have a nonphysical soul emitting invisible wavelengths of energy such as your intellect, thoughts and emotions.  These have a profound affect on your immune system that is instrumental to human health.  The immune system works best by synthesizing the two components together.

 

What is your job in this?

 

To make a goal to have perfect prostate health with fully functioning equipment.  Know your dream will come true and maintain a positive attitude.  Then amplify the power with a daily prayer.

 

Nikola Tesla said "The source of most disease is in the spirit, therefore the spirit can cure most disease.

 

Albert Einstein said "Everything is energy.  Match the frequency of the energy you want and by default it will happen."

 

You can't observe this power with your 5 senses, but never the less, it is there. You can use it to your advantage.  I have been experimenting with this strategy for years and have been pleased with the results.

 

On 1/16/2025 at 1:00 PM, Sheryl said:

called carbenams

The correct name for this class of ant-bacterials is carbapenems

Can you give me an address in Bangkok - Chinese medicine? I would be very grateful. I can't find it. My email: *removed - please contact by forum message*

Removed a non-English post.

A non medically conflicting but additional resource involves the application of cold pressed unrefined castor oil as per numerous suggestions available via the web. The only cautionary I have noted was a simple check/test for allergic response prior to .

Personally I have used it to alleviate so called "non bacterial prostatitis" which presented with symptoms well after lab tests indicated no infection.

Surmised eventually that age related enlarged prostate  did not appreciate being hammered on a motorcycle seat.

Chok dee !

7 hours ago, Mark Nothing said:

The results you desire will more likely occur when you realise the human being is more than just a physical body.  You need to do your job too and not just rely on a tablet or treatment.

 

You also have a nonphysical soul emitting invisible wavelengths of energy such as your intellect, thoughts and emotions.  These have a profound affect on your immune system that is instrumental to human health.  The immune system works best by synthesizing the two components together.

 

What is your job in this?

 

To make a goal to have perfect prostate health with fully functioning equipment.  Know your dream will come true and maintain a positive attitude.  Then amplify the power with a daily prayer.

 

Nikola Tesla said "The source of most disease is in the spirit, therefore the spirit can cure most disease.

 

Albert Einstein said "Everything is energy.  Match the frequency of the energy you want and by default it will happen."

 

You can't observe this power with your 5 senses, but never the less, it is there. You can use it to your advantage.  I have been experimenting with this strategy for years and have been pleased with the results.

 

The microbes that inflict themselves on other living organisms  might just as likely have their own spiritual philosophy of survival and endurance?

 Einstein's acclaimed brilliance or even Tesla's electrifying revelations in honest reality have no bearing on considerations of "the spirit" beyond recognition of the demonstrable  fact that  positivity of  mind assists in natural defenses. To the point that here is some statistical evidence that depressed individuals are more prone  to illnesses including  cancers.

Religious submission rarely if  ever provides genuine salvation.

Each to their own and hopefully so enabled  without mandated compliance.

 

Just over 30 years ago i had a recurring UTI. First treatment was penicillin K, a one gram dose. it worked for a month but then UTI back. next 2 antibiotics prescribed only worked for a few days. Doctor didn't know what to try next. I suggested as Penicillin K nearly worked the first time, to give me 2 doses, which i took 48 hours apart. Problem solved.

 

Just my experience.

On 1/14/2025 at 8:07 PM, simon43 said:

Well, I can afford this drug if pushed to it.  But there is no quarantee that the treatment will actually work.  I think a course of injections is about 15,000 baht, but I might be 15k out of pocket and still with the infection...

My Doctor gives me one month of Cipro whenever we need to baseline my PSA. Always bring it back from 6 to 3-4.

As regards prostatitis......looking through my files I found a reply I got from the London Prof who I was in touch with, regarding my treatment for prostatitis and he did say that for stubborn cases, which they sometimes encountered, I should continue with the Monural, one 3 gram sachet every three days, three times, and I should add doxycycline 100 mg once a day for a couple of weeks to see if that combination worked.

 

As he said, sometimes infections of the prostate are very hard to deal with because of the biofilm and also the fact that the prostate is designed to keep out "unwanted" elements, although the bacteria seem to find a way in!

 

This worked for me, but as others have said, everyone is different.

32 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

My Doctor gives me one month of Cipro whenever we need to baseline my PSA. Always bring it back from 6 to 3-4.

Didn't see the OP's labs, should've shut my mouth...