1 hour ago, Dan747 said:

 The newly announced universal Trump tariffs (https://taxfoundation.org/blog/trump-reciprocal-tariffs-calculations/) on April 2 will raise $1.5 trillion in revenue over the next decade and shrink US GDP by 0.4 percent. The April 2 escalation comes in addition to previously announced tariffs, which will raise $1.3 in revenue over the next decade and shrink US GDP by 0.3 percent. Altogether, Trump’s tariffs will raise nearly $2.9 trillion in revenue over the next decade and reduce US GDP by 0.7 percent, all before foreign retaliation.

 

  You forgot the part where the tariffs wiped out $11 trillion US dollars in wealth.

 

  But if it raises $1.5 trillion, that's.....gotta be good, right?  

21 minutes ago, PomPolo said:

The US is naive if they think the same factories making all these products for a supposed US company isn't rebranding them and selling them at 1/4 of the price through Asian markets

Do you think companies that import these products are so clueless as not to determine hat they are selling for? And do you think that competitive bidding isn't a thing?

9 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

Stock market crash＝Collapse of 401K pension fund.

As it is linked to stock prices closely.

Keen to watch his supporters' response when it happens.

 

  Already happening.  

1 minute ago, TheAppletons said:

 

  You forgot the part where the tariffs wiped out $11 trillion US dollars in wealth.

 

  But if it raises $1.5 trillion, that's.....gotta be good, right?  

But that's stocks. Not the productive capacity of the U.S. economy. Tariffs will negatively affect that over time but not right away.

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

But that's stocks. Not the productive capacity of the U.S. economy. Tariffs will negatively affect that over time but not right away.

 

  Yeah, not to stray too far off topic here, but when people feel less financially secure - as when their investments tank - then they tend to spend less.  2/3 of the US economy is consumer driven.  Tariffs then drive up the price of goods, reinforcing that reluctance to spend.

 

  It's all linked, as I'm certain you're aware.

1 hour ago, dutch boy said:

Actually these tariffs imposed by President Trump will hopefully be a good thing for us expats in Thailand. I often order products from Amazon.com in the U.S. and pay upwards of 75% tariff, sometimes more. Thailand will eventually have to reduce its insane tariffs on American goods. This will be a big positive for us expats.

 

What do you order that gets a 75% tariff? I've never had that happen.

For anyone that doubts this is one of the most stupid political moves since the great depression, look at the device you are using now to access this Forum.

Research yourself or let me know and I will tell you where it was manufactured and I highly doubt many will come back with the US!

If any do it wouldn't operate without Asian manufactured parts!

13 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I have driven the entire coast of Australia on an extended fishing holiday Darwin- Broome-Perth, across the Nullarbor, up the east coast to Cooktown, throught Mt.Isa ending back in Darwin. Took many months. Mostly roads are totally empty, kangaroos, flies and boredom were the problems, plus awful beer. Saw a few classic US imports up in Darwin and they were LHD not sure how that was allowed but the drivers were very much still alive.

Now, back on topic.... forcing US imports to convert to RHD is pure protectionism. The US and Europe allow RHD cars, no drama.

Geez Cobber.  You sound like a whinging Pom not a proper Yank.  Anyway you can get a LHD Permit for non converted vehicles.  
 

BTW on your extended holiday what type of vehicle did you drive - LHD or RHD??

Maybe the dumbest thing a President has ever done. 

 

It's just another version of trickle down economics. 

 

 

6 minutes ago, TheAppletons said:

 

  Yeah, not to stray too far off topic here, but when people feel less financially secure - as when their investments tank - then they tend to spend less.  2/3 of the US economy is consumer driven.  Tariffs then drive up the price of goods, reinforcing that reluctance to spend.

 

  It's all linked, as I'm certain you're aware.

That is a fair point. And it is true now that 50% of the spending in the US economy comes from the top 10%. Not so long ago it was 34%. Still, it isn't like the US economy has suffered a material 11 trillion dollar loss.

26 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

You are pretty clueless if you are not using Shopee and Lazada.

Not really. There's lot of stuff on Amazon that shopee and lazada don't offer. Probably because of tariffs. If they were to all, then maybe they would get some of that stuff too.

20 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Now, back on topic.... forcing US imports to convert to RHD is pure protectionism. The US and Europe allow RHD cars, no drama.

 

Wait, so the Japanese aren't required to deliver LHD vehicles to their dealerships in the USA?  Sure, you can import a one-off yourself, but are there any manufacturers offering those?

 

Does that mean the German government should tariff Japan also for requiring BMW and Mercedes to sell RHD vehicles?

 

I assume emissions and safety standards are also "protectionism?" 

40 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I get as far as your 1st sentence before encountering "liberal logic". Your claim that lhd cars are unable to drive on the left side of the road is one for the ages😅. I can see why you guys just parrot fake news narratives.

So, we let US cars drive on the wrong side, while Aussie cattle infected with Mad Cows roam free? What a recipe for chaos. Kind of like Trump’s tariff mess… seems Mad Cows might be at play there too. And those US Trump Steaks, which he couldn’t give away—maybe he had one too many.

How do any of the above frothing at the mouth Trump haters address the topic which is expats. You guys are crazy.

Just now, LosLobo said:

So, we let US cars drive on the wrong side, while Aussie cattle infected with Mad Cows roam free? What a recipe for chaos. Kind of like Trump's tariff mess… seems Mad Cows might be at play there too. And those US Trump Steaks which he could not give away—maybe he had one too many.

Someone's certainly had one too many.

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

How do any of the above frothing at the mouth Trump haters address the topic which is expats. You guys are crazy.

The topic is "Are U.S. expats shielded from the massive Trump Tariff Tax Raise on Americans?"
The answer is NO the goods you buy will increase in price once Thailand increases it's tariff's if this is where you are living and order to be delivered to, so the American companies will increase the prices dependent on where they are delivering to which will be passed on to the customer purchasing probably dependent on the Tariffs of that country so Americans are not shielded it would be the same as a Thai person in Thailand buying something from America.  Going to be an administrative nightmare!!!!

If you are living in the US and buying US stuff then wouldn't impact you obviously apart from domestic taxation.

I'm going to live with the penguins and catch my own fish.

Does that answer the question?

It is all new territory and we don't know what will happen. Anything can happen. SS can be cut entirely. As to expats, bank transfers can be stopped. Bank accounts can be closed and confiscated for no valid reason. Currencies can be devalued. The greatest factor that affects my net worth is the $ to THB exchange rate. 

 

I try and diversify - a smaller than usual amount in equities, bonds, treasuries and an increasing amount of money here in Thai baht for which I sacrifice earning potential..

 

quite the crap game out there - - 

44 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Beef:

Agree about the beef in a way. Best beef is grass fed and the best of this in Aus comes from King Island. Not cheap but fkn great. Don't be fooled though, grain fed beef happens in Australia a lot.

Cars:

US cars are gas guzzlers. Sure the good ones are so if you believe the whole EV's will save the environment thing then buy a Tesla Ah! Wait. Musk is a Nazi. Can't do that. Better to buy a cheap Chinese EV from the worst dictator on the planet.

Beef:
Ah, King Island beef—now we’re talking. It’s like the Wagyu of Australia. But you’re right, grain-fed beef is everywhere in Australia too. Seems like we can’t escape a good steak in Oz, no matter where it comes from.

Cars:
US cars being gas guzzlers? Fair point... I think we'd all agree a little less “gas guzzling” is a step in the right direction. And hey, if Musk’s a "Nazi," then what does that say about the guy who still worships him like a tech god? As for Chinese EVs, I’m personally easing into full-on EV mode with a Toyota HEV hybrid. Slow steps toward a greener ride!

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

This new reality has me wondering -- will the Trump regime realize that expats are outside his massive tax hike bubble and in response craft a financial penalty targeted at expats?

 

So, Trump puts tariffs on countries to get them to either lower theirs or to get production coming back to the US, and you're suggesting he will try to tax expats?  What are you talking about?

 

You do realise that people who aren't insane liars can see through the nonsense claims you are making, right?

56 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Still at it with this nonsense?

 

Trade with Russia and North Korea is limited and sanctioned, and essentially zero.

 

If Trump HAD added them to the new tariff list, you'd be starting threads about how stupid he is to tariff those two countries that are already heavily sanctioned.

Wrong.

2 hours ago, timendres said:

Trump believes this move will bring jobs to the US, something he wants to accomplish. It is not designed as some sort of punishment, although anyone who understands economics knows that any action that benefits some people (bring back manufacturing jobs) also hurts some people (increased prices for tariffed products). Trump has far too much on his plate to spend time worrying about a few expats. I am more concerned about the financial pressures on social security causing unpopular changes that affect expats.

 

Indeed.  The OP is simply lying, as he has been since Trump got in.

16 minutes ago, PomPolo said:

The topic is "Are U.S. expats shielded from the massive Trump Tariff Tax Raise on Americans?"
The answer is NO the goods you buy will increase in price once Thailand increases it's tariff's if this is where you are living and order to be delivered to, so the American companies will increase the prices dependent on where they are delivering to which will be passed on to the customer purchasing probably dependent on the Tariffs of that country so Americans are not shielded it would be the same as a Thai person in Thailand buying something from America.  Going to be an administrative nightmare!!!!

If you are living in the US and buying US stuff then wouldn't impact you obviously apart from domestic taxation.

I'm going to live with the penguins and catch my own fish.

Does that answer the question?

Thread topic is:

Are U.S. expats shielded from the massive Trump Tariff Tax Raise on Americans?

This is simply crazy. How can anyone actually think US expats would be shielded is beyond belief. The only logical reason is this is simply a troll thread.

1 hour ago, blaze master said:

 

Right. Your opinion noted. 

What does that mean?

Is that a threat of some kind?

Please explain.

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Are you seriously saying the likes of Snap-on tools are on a par with garbage Chinese knockoffs that fail the first time you apply some elbow grease? 

Trump is hawking Chinese knockoff bibles to his gullible followers… 

2 hours ago, pomchop said:

Hey trump  promised to bring prices down on day one as maga cheered his every utterance.. 

 

He was obviously talking about bringing stock prices down.  Promise delivered.  More to come.

 

 

A year from now the price of eggs will appear relatively cheap… 

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Hear me out here.

This topic is for discussion.

So as we know Trump has now isolated the USA from the entire world (except for Russia, NK, etc.) with his totally insane massive tax hike on all but wealthy Americans. He's killed globalism from a U.S. perspective.

HOWEVER, trade will go on as before between all other countries.

So lets take an example.

Sneakers made in Vietnam now much more expensive for Americans living in the U.S.

That's the tax hike Trump in his infinite idiocy has mandated.

But will they be more expensive for American expats elsewhere?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem so.

Also traveling Americans will be able to stock up on cheaper goods when they travel, but then they would have to deal with possible customs penalties on reentry.

So why am I posting this exactly?

This new reality has me wondering -- will the Trump regime realize that expats are outside his massive tax hike bubble and in response craft a financial penalty targeted at expats?

I know some will say that's paranoid, but nobody can confidently say that the Trump regime is not capable of such a thing. 

'Kin 'ell...

11 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Thread topic is:

Are U.S. expats shielded from the massive Trump Tariff Tax Raise on Americans?

This is simply crazy. How can anyone actually think US expats would be shielded is beyond belief. The only logical reason is this is simply a troll thread.

Well, given that they don't live in America, why wouldn't they be shielded from Trump's tariffs. Of course, if they ordered stuff from the USA and their country of residence imposed retaliatory tariffs, they would be affected in a secondary way.

12 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

What does that mean?

Is that a threat of some kind?

Please explain.

 

It means opinion noted. Pretty simple.

USTR Releases 2025 National Trade Estimate Report

March 31, 2025

WASHINGTON — Today, the Office of the United States Trade Representative (USTR) submitted the 2025 National Trade Estimate (NTE) to President Trump and Congress. The NTE is an annual report detailing foreign trade barriers faced by U.S. exporters and USTR’s efforts to reduce those barriers.
Thailand Page 339 of report

https://ustr.gov/about/policy-offices/press-office/press-releases/2025/march/ustr-releases-2025-national-trade-estimate-report

 which effectively prevents the importation of U.S. pork products.

Thailand has banned U.S. turkey meat imports since late 2014. 

“processed foods made or derived from animal carcass,” including sausage, salami, ham, bacon, smoked meat products, pickled meat products, cured meat products, honey and related products, and salty/processed eggs and egg yolks.  Other than a single product approved in early 2022, DLD has not approved any new processed meat products.

Alcoholic beverages: Import taxes on wine are as high as 400%.

It would appear that the Federation of Thai Industries as  identified trading barrier issues between Thailand and the USA

As I personally don't drink wine I am shielded from huge import tarriffs on wine regardless of when they were placed tomorrow or 20 years ago
https://www.kaohoon.com/news/745614

1 minute ago, vinny41 said:

USTR Releases 2025 National Trade Estimate Report

March 31, 2025

WASHINGTON — Today, the Office of the United States Trade Representative (USTR) submitted the 2025 National Trade Estimate (NTE) to President Trump and Congress. The NTE is an annual report detailing foreign trade barriers faced by U.S. exporters and USTR’s efforts to reduce those barriers.
Thailand Page 339 of report

https://ustr.gov/about/policy-offices/press-office/press-releases/2025/march/ustr-releases-2025-national-trade-estimate-report

 which effectively prevents the importation of U.S. pork products.

Thailand has banned U.S. turkey meat imports since late 2014. 

“processed foods made or derived from animal carcass,” including sausage, salami, ham, bacon, smoked meat products, pickled meat products, cured meat products, honey and related products, and salty/processed eggs and egg yolks.  Other than a single product approved in early 2022, DLD has not approved any new processed meat products.

Alcoholic beverages: Import taxes on wine are as high as 400%.

It would appear that the Federation of Thai Industries as  identified trading barrier issues between Thailand and the USA

As I personally don't drink wine I am shielded from huge import tarriffs on wine regardless of when they were placed tomorrow or 20 years ago
https://www.kaohoon.com/news/745614

Some food bans are about protecting from diseases and also certain U.S. animal husbandry practices like using ractopamine. They aren't alone in this.

As of 2014, according to the Humane Society, the use of ractopamine was “banned or restricted” in 160 countries,^[6] including the European Union, China and Russia,^[7][8] while 27 other countries, such as Japan, the United States, South Korea, and New Zealand have deemed meat from livestock fed ractopamine safe for human consumption.^[9][10][11]

 

It's true that their tariffs on alcoholic beverages are way too high.

But the thing is, one of the factors that has kept Thailand from making more economic progress is their protectionism. But it does suit the people at the top of the thai economy.