Trump winning

[Lacessit]

18 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I'm sorry but you have to be trolling. You seriously can't be this stupid. Here's the thumbnail. Guess what the video is about? Oddly enough the same as this thread. BTW Thailand joins more than 50 countries to negotiate about the tariffs.

The Smoot-Hawley tariffs of 1930 are agreed upon by economists as worsening the Great Depression. Here we go again, history repeating itself.

 

Anyone who views Trump's tariffs as a triumph knows nothing about history or economics.

 

No world leader is going to crumble. They will either pivot away from the US, or respond with retaliatory tariffs of their own. Already happening.

 

Trump says he will bring manufacturing back to the USA. Assuming anyone is willing to put capital into an unstable country, those plants will take years to build. They don't spring up overnight.

 

By that time, America will have gone from recession into depression.

 

How to shoot yourself in the foot.

 

 

[dinsdale]

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

No world leader is going to crumble. They will either pivot away from the US, or respond with retaliatory tariffs of their own. Already happening.

Not much retaliatory tariffs from what I've seen. Only Asian country going to do this is China and that should not surprise anyone.

[bubblegum]

7 hours ago, riclag said:

Here is a good example of the Trump effect on winning! EU & China beware!

Americans are fed up with Terrorist supporting countries and organizations like NAto who support Hamas.

EU  countries are a bunch Socialist countries siding with Terrorist and is a bunch of Globalist leftist hypocrites to illegal migration.

All of this while China is hands off by the Globalist!Time stamp 5:50 for a historians (VDH)) perspective.

 

 

 

You're getting more weird by the day.

[jerrymahoney]

From NY Times opinion 7 APR 2025

President Trump’s imposition of high tariffs on friend and foe alike has stunned the world and stumped economists. There is no economic rationale, experts say, for believing these tariffs will usher in a new era of American prosperity.

But the slash-and-burn approach of the Mar-a-Lago Accord isn’t the answer. For one thing, it is hard to find an economist outside of Mr. Trump’s inner circle who thinks it is a good idea.

https://archive.ph/MpKM0

[hotsun]

3 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

From NY Times opinion 7 APR 2025

President Trump’s imposition of high tariffs on friend and foe alike has stunned the world and stumped economists. There is no economic rationale, experts say, for believing these tariffs will usher in a new era of American prosperity.

But the slash-and-burn approach of the Mar-a-Lago Accord isn’t the answer. For one thing, it is hard to find an economist outside of Mr. Trump’s inner circle who thinks it is a good idea.

https://archive.ph/MpKM0

Not one economist told me to buy bitcoin when it was 1000 dollars but then again they couldnt predict the 2008 crisis and why bitcoin was invented in 2009 they still cant connect the dots. In other words, who gives a flying <deleted> what paul krugman thinks

[jerrymahoney]

5 minutes ago, hotsun said:

In other words, who gives a flying <deleted> what paul krugman thinks

Maybe these folks from The Guardian headline today:

 

Rightwing group backed by Koch and Leo sues to stop Trump tariffs
New Civil Liberties Alliance says president’s invocation of emergency powers to impose tariffs is unlawful

 

BTW that NYTimes opinion piece was not by Paul Krugman

 

[Cryingdick]

16 hours ago, rough diamond said:

Has anyone ever experienced that so called dream?

That's quite an ignorant statement. Not everybody in the USA is some helpless, little, whining, purple haired, creature living in their parent's basement. I came back to the USA because You can have a decent life here and your own home which is almost impossible in most western countries now. 

 

Aside from that it is one of the easiest places to do business and make money. I lived all over Europe for years and I have never even heard anybody say the phrase "British dream" or "German Dream" Those disappeared centuries ago.

[hotsun]

21 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Maybe these folks from The Guardian headline today:

 

Rightwing group backed by Koch and Leo sues to stop Trump tariffs
New Civil Liberties Alliance says president’s invocation of emergency powers to impose tariffs is unlawful

 

BTW that NYTimes opinion piece was not by Paul Krugman

 

They are all students of keynes. The world is shifting back to sound money, modern economists should be looking for new work

[jerrymahoney]

You asked a question "Who gives a flying ...?" -- I answered.

[Lacessit]

9 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Not much retaliatory tariffs from what I've seen. Only Asian country going to do this is China and that should not surprise anyone.

For a long time, America has been regarded as a safe haven for investment capital, doing business, stable currency etc.

 

In a couple of months, Trump has destroyed that.

 

Economics has the human factor of trust. Who do you think trusts America now?

[SLOWHAND225]

Supreme Court Upholds Trump's Use of Alien Enemies Act

Last updated 27 minutes ago

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled in favor of the Trump administration, allowing the use of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to deport noncitizens identified as members of the Venezuelan Tren de Aragua gang. This decision overturns a previous block by a federal judge, enabling the administration to continue its deportation efforts under this historical law. The ruling was decided by a narrow margin of 5-4, with Justice Barrett joining the three liberal justices in dissent.

 

 

 

https://x.com/i/trending/1909397774614896727

[candide]

2 hours ago, hotsun said:

They are all students of keynes. The world is shifting back to sound money, modern economists should be looking for new work

Complete B.S. The author of the NYTimes article is a partisan of Milton Friedman who was completely opposed to Keynesianism

 

You don't even know what you are talking about! 

[jerrymahoney]

Dr. Burns is a research fellow at the (conservative) Hoover Institution on the Stanford U. campus.

[Harrisfan]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

For a long time, America has been regarded as a safe haven for investment capital, doing business, stable currency etc.

 

In a couple of months, Trump has destroyed that.

 

Economics has the human factor of trust. Who do you think trusts America now?

Investing in US is better than ever. No tariffs.

[Harrisfan]

4 hours ago, hotsun said:

Not one economist told me to buy bitcoin when it was 1000 dollars but then again they couldnt predict the 2008 crisis and why bitcoin was invented in 2009 they still cant connect the dots. In other words, who gives a flying <deleted> what paul krugman thinks

Exactly. Most economists are clueless.

[Harrisfan]

13 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Dr. Burns is a research fellow at the (conservative) Hoover Institution on the Stanford U. campus.

So being right wing is bad? 

[jerrymahoney]

Trump does not want to be losing the conservatives.

[Harrisfan]

2 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Trump does not want to be losing the conservatives.

Trump has already won twice. His life is set. He can also pardon himself if need be like Biden.

 

The left lost.

[jerrymahoney]

Trump version 2 is just getting started.

[JackGats]

21 hours ago, rough diamond said:

Has anyone ever experienced that so called dream?

In the land of the free, if you walk up to a woman in the street and tell her "I give you a hundred, let's have some fun in bed", you go to jail and have your mug in the paper. That's what they call "the American dream", "freedom" and "the pursuit of happiness".

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, Harrisfan said:

Trump has already won twice. His life is set. He can also pardon himself if need be like Biden.

You say twice, Trump says thrice—2016, 2020, 2025. So, you 're calling Trump a liar about winning in 2020!
 

The cult mantra demands obedience. For such blasphemy, your penance is 100 Hail Marys Hitlers.

[JackGats]

1 hour ago, Harrisfan said:

...

 

The left lost.

The right, the left, the right, the left ...

 

The binary trap.

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1 hour ago, Harrisfan said:

Trump has already won twice. His life is set. He can also pardon himself if need be like Biden.

 

The left lost.

"He can also pardon himself if need be like Biden."

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[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, Harrisfan said:

Exactly. Most economists are clueless.

T Bill rates dropping daily. That means more than the market.

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1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

T Bill rates dropping daily. That means more than the market.

You don't think just possibly that it might have something to do with this?

 

Traders betting Fed will cut rates at least 4 times this year to bail out economy

Traders are now betting the Federal Reserve will cut interest rates at least four times this year, amid fears President Donald Trump’s tariffs could tip the U.S. into a recession.

Odds of five quarter-point reductions coming this year jumped to 37.9%, up from 18.3% one day prior, according to data from the CME Group on Friday morning. That would put the federal funds rate at 3.00% to 3.25%, down from 4.25% to 4.50% where it has been since December.

Markets are also pricing in a roughly 32% chance the federal funds rate will fall to 3.25% to 3.50%, which would mean four quarter-point cuts from the Fed

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/04/traders-betting-fed-will-cut-rates-at-least-4-times-this-year-to-bail-out-economy.html

[Hamus Yaigh]

From a fellow observer:  "Someone asked me if I, as a Canadian, could trust America again after Trump dies. I answered: the problem is not just Trump or even MAGA. The problem is that the Republic's constitutional checks and balances were not acted on, they were ignored or allowed to be dodged or simply disregarded, one by one by " institutionalists" who knew better. The rot is deep. How can we trust you if you don't ACTUALLY respect the Constitution you ballyhoo about so loudly?"

[Yagoda]

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You don't think just possibly that it might have something to do with this?

 

Traders betting Fed will cut rates at least 4 times this year to bail out economy

Traders are now betting the Federal Reserve will cut interest rates at least four times this year, amid fears President Donald Trump’s tariffs could tip the U.S. into a recession.

Odds of five quarter-point reductions coming this year jumped to 37.9%, up from 18.3% one day prior, according to data from the CME Group on Friday morning. That would put the federal funds rate at 3.00% to 3.25%, down from 4.25% to 4.50% where it has been since December.

Markets are also pricing in a roughly 32% chance the federal funds rate will fall to 3.25% to 3.50%, which would mean four quarter-point cuts from the Fed

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/04/traders-betting-fed-will-cut-rates-at-least-4-times-this-year-to-bail-out-economy.html

Does it matter to you? T bill rates are dropping. Good for the economy or not? Or is it just all hate America and wish for the worst? Allowing your inner enemy to show?

[placeholder]

12 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Does it matter to you? T bill rates are dropping. Good for the economy or not? Or is it just all hate America and wish for the worst? Allowing your inner enemy to show?

Clearly, you haven't thought about why the Fed might be dropping the rate on TV bills. 

[bubblegum]

Nero was playing the fiddle. Trump golfs.

[Yagoda]

37 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Clearly, you haven't thought about why the Fed might be dropping the rate on TV bills. 

Got it. We obviously know that your hatred of Trump is the overriding factor in your life.