Earth has had several mass extinctions.  There will be more before Earth ceases to exist.  Don't worry about it.

16 hours ago, Franck60 said:

Just a thought about overpopulation… my opinion

A sentient powerful AI is going to come to the same conclusion.

Covid was a test run.

Schwab said it : the future is not human.

We're as natural as bacteria on the skin of an onion. Maybe we'll end up as part of an alien's salad soon. 🤪

16 hours ago, Franck60 said:

Just a thought about overpopulation… my opinion,

Earth is WILDLY overpopulated by humans…

1 or 2 billion of us would be just fine.

 

Life is precious… but it’s not only about human lives.

 

Homo Sapiens is such an invasive species!

We have gotten ourselves out of Nature. We behave like the reckless entitled Earth’s owners.

 

We’re already 8 billion people.

We’ve contaminated, endangered or destroyed most habitats. Humans cause “habitats losses” & contamination which are primary causes of flora and wildlife extinction. We are so invasive & reckless…

 

But Capitalism needs overpopulation… cheap and qualified labour to keep going … and sustain the system and its economics. The low birth rate is scary for the US, Russia, China and even the EU which need ever more immigration to prop up the Welfare State. Feeding the ugly beast (capitalism and its elite beneficiaries) is more important than Earth sustainability.

 

Is Earth 🌎 only meant to belong to humans and their pets?

 

Earth should be shared with all the living world in a sustainable way.

 

Let’s not forget that (we all of us know it)… Earth 🌍 would do just fine without Homo Sapiens,

 

 

 I think you need to look at the stats my friend

 

The top popu;lation growth are China and India followed by Indonesia, Pakistan Nigeria.

 

Yes the U.S. is in there but that is more to do with the number of people and lack of education in parts of the country.

Reminds of Mark Twain's quip:

"Everybody talks about the weather but nobody does anything about it."

 

Whaddya gonna do about overpopulation?

Almost impossible to suggest any solution as easy to anticipate the objections that will arise.

Even suggested limiting births will get some up in arms.

 

Capitalism does not rely on a large population, so much as growth. A large population is the result of growth. Specifically, it is growth economics that is to blame  However I'm not sure that can be separated from capitalism.

The planet now has the highest population that it has ever had. At the same time, living standards are at their highest ever - and poverty is at its lowest level ever. So where's the overpopulation problem?

 

A greater problem going forward is going to be rapid DEpopulation, driven mainly by the COVID "vaccines", and other population-reducing policies by such people as Bill Gates and his ilk.

The population of the world has increased 4-fold since 1900, from 2 billion to 8 billion. I suspect that this is a lot to do with global warming.

 

Why does no one ever mention such a rise in population as a problem? 

More population means: More profits; more taxes; more economic growth.

Economic growth is like the Holy Grail for politicians, and the one thing it requires is population growth.

Population growth is the elephant in the room.

Just now, Andrew65 said:

The population of the world has increased 4-fold since 1900, from 2 billion to 8 billion. I suspect that this is a lot to do with global warming.

 

Why does no one ever mention such a rise in population as a problem? 
More population means: More profits; more taxes; more economic growth.

Economic growth is like the Holy Grail for politicians, and the one thing it requires is population growth.

Population growth is the elephant in the room.

Why do you think population growth is a bad thing?

Not to mention intensive farming raised food production 10x in that same time.

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Why do you think population growth is a bad thing?

Not to mention intensive farming raised food production 10x in that same time.

It's unsustainable.
Go to India and ask why population growth can be a bad thing.

7 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

It's unsustainable.
Go to India and ask why population growth can be a bad thing.

But that's just one country ...... And the rest of the world isn't like that.

It's a bit like climate change, India and China pump out co2, and white fold are supposed to compensate for their irresponsible behaviour.

 

Oh no, the poor 3rd world people are starving  .........

But farmers don't grow food for free, so it can't be fixed.

 

This is the madness of wokism, civilised white folk being required to commit racial suicide to compensate for the behaviour of non white primatives.

 

 

I've seen some recent studies that have China's population dropping to 650 million by the year 2060, multiple predictions also have shown Thailand's population to drop to 35 million within that same period. The people are just getting smart and many are deciding not to have children, or to have one child at the most.

 

 

I don't want to sound racist, because I'm not, but 21 out of 22 countries in the world that have the highest birth rates are Muslim nations, so that is where the real problem lies. 

 

This is not a great time to be bringing children into the world, and people are wising up. I don't think they're going to be able to reverse that trend. And it's a good thing overall, though some pain will be felt, no doubt. World population needs to drop. 

 

Well what might appear to be an empty lifestyle to some, is bordering on paradise to many millions of us. Though I like kids, I've never had the desire to own any. One hour with one is plenty. It's a personal choice, we all have to make these kind of decisions. 98% choose to go the conventional route and have children. For me children were never an option. And I'm infinitely thankful for that. 

 

The best thing that's happening to the world right now is countries like China and Japan just saying no to children. I do not think children are that special, they're not really needed, they are way over rated, and thankfully it's a choice these days and not compulsory. A lot of people are saying no, I don't need the headaches, I don't need the nonsense, I don't need the expense, I don't need the responsibility, and the planet does not need any other kid. 

Nah, I choose to have a great life, I don't need kids. I did that and it was the wisest and smartest decision of this lifetime. I don't miss not having kids for a nanosecond.

 

The declining birth rates are simply symptomatic of intelligent people looking at life in this day and age, looking at their financial situation, looking at the lack of state support, and just simply deciding that having children it's just not some place they need to go. If they're going to have children, many are limiting it to one child.

 

There is nothing that could possibly be more positive for the future of Thailand, and the world, than a seriously declining birth rate. It's something that we need drastically. The last thing in the world this planet needs right now is an expanding population. 

 

23 hours ago, BritManToo said:

White folk are down from 60% of the world population (1938) to under 14% o the world population today (2025). And that 14% includes Latinos!

 

Maybe you should be posting on another forum as we're already facing extinction as a race.

There’s only one race: The human race.

Over population is just BS.

You just need to manage things better.  

Doomsday wingnuts at work again.  

23 hours ago, KhunLA said:

The world is far from over populated, as little of the planet if fully utilized.  People are just too ignoranat, stupid or lazy to even provide for themselves and be happy.  Yea, I don't have a whole lot of respect for the human race.

 

People living where they don't want, working a job they don't like, and even in a relationship, they can't figure out how get out of.   Some can't even control their habits, addictions, whether food, alcohol/drugs, cigs, as their health deteriorates right in front of them 

 

Tell themselves, it's a disease, instead of simply having a bit of self respect, exercising minimal effort and living the life they want.

 

I'm a uneducated, LPOS, and even I figured out the basics to be happy and enjoy life.

 

Everyone blaming everything and everyone else for problems of the world, and themselves, without simply looking in the mirror.   That's where they'll find the problem, and the solution.

 

All human activity covers a mere 1 percent of the planet. Buildings  cities etc.

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I've seen some recent studies that have China's population dropping to 650 million by the year 2060, multiple predictions also have shown Thailand's population to drop to 35 million within that same period. The people are just getting smart and many are deciding not to have children, or to have one child at the most.

 

 

I don't want to sound racist, because I'm not, but 21 out of 22 countries in the world that have the highest birth rates are Muslim nations, so that is where the real problem lies. 

 

This is not a great time to be bringing children into the world, and people are wising up. I don't think they're going to be able to reverse that trend. And it's a good thing overall, though some pain will be felt, no doubt. World population needs to drop. 

 

Well what might appear to be an empty lifestyle to some, is bordering on paradise to many millions of us. Though I like kids, I've never had the desire to own any. One hour with one is plenty. It's a personal choice, we all have to make these kind of decisions. 98% choose to go the conventional route and have children. For me children were never an option. And I'm infinitely thankful for that. 

 

The best thing that's happening to the world right now is countries like China and Japan just saying no to children. I do not think children are that special, they're not really needed, they are way over rated, and thankfully it's a choice these days and not compulsory. A lot of people are saying no, I don't need the headaches, I don't need the nonsense, I don't need the expense, I don't need the responsibility, and the planet does not need any other kid. 

Nah, I choose to have a great life, I don't need kids. I did that and it was the wisest and smartest decision of this lifetime. I don't miss not having kids for a nanosecond.

 

The declining birth rates are simply symptomatic of intelligent people looking at life in this day and age, looking at their financial situation, looking at the lack of state support, and just simply deciding that having children it's just not some place they need to go. If they're going to have children, many are limiting it to one child.

 

There is nothing that could possibly be more positive for the future of Thailand, and the world, than a seriously declining birth rate. It's something that we need drastically. The last thing in the world this planet needs right now is an expanding population. 

 

Its something you cant understand unless you have one. I would argue that women who dont have any will always be unfulfilled

4 hours ago, hotsun said:

Its something you cant understand unless you have one. I would argue that women who dont have any will always be unfulfilled

While you are entitled to your opinion, many of us consider kids to be fabulously over rated and unnecessary. 

Overpopulated! What are you talking about? There are millions of acres still to be populated (It's the concentration that's the problem)

 

Space and Urbanization

• Only ~1-3% of Earth’s land is urbanized—cities could become denser and more efficient (e.g., Tokyo’s high-density living).

• Rural depopulation in some regions suggests underuse, not overcrowding.

I hear that the Soylent Green factory is accepting applications.

 

But I think they require up to date boosters.

 

 

14 minutes ago, Sorted2024 said:

 

Looks like Ol' Blighty could use some more inflatable boat people.

 

On 5/16/2025 at 5:32 AM, Franck60 said:

Just a thought about overpopulation… my opinion,

Earth is WILDLY overpopulated by humans…

1 or 2 billion of us would be just fine.

 

Life is precious… but it’s not only about human lives.

 

Homo Sapiens is such an invasive species!

We have gotten ourselves out of Nature. We behave like the reckless entitled Earth’s owners.

 

We’re already 8 billion people.

We’ve contaminated, endangered or destroyed most habitats. Humans cause “habitats losses” & contamination which are primary causes of flora and wildlife extinction. We are so invasive & reckless…

 

But Capitalism needs overpopulation… cheap and qualified labour to keep going … and sustain the system and its economics. The low birth rate is scary for the US, Russia, China and even the EU which need ever more immigration to prop up the Welfare State. Feeding the ugly beast (capitalism and its elite beneficiaries) is more important than Earth sustainability.

 

Is Earth 🌎 only meant to belong to humans and their pets?

 

Earth should be shared with all the living world in a sustainable way.

 

Let’s not forget that (we all of us know it)… Earth 🌍 would do just fine without Homo Sapiens,

So why don't you, Bill Gates and all those claiming there are too many people eliminate yourselves.  Do the rest of earth a favor.

On 5/16/2025 at 4:32 PM, Franck60 said:

Just a thought about overpopulation… my opinion,

Earth is WILDLY overpopulated by humans…

1 or 2 billion of us would be just fine.

 

Life is precious… but it’s not only about human lives.

 

Homo Sapiens is such an invasive species!

We have gotten ourselves out of Nature. We behave like the reckless entitled Earth’s owners.

 

We’re already 8 billion people.

We’ve contaminated, endangered or destroyed most habitats. Humans cause “habitats losses” & contamination which are primary causes of flora and wildlife extinction. We are so invasive & reckless…

 

But Capitalism needs overpopulation… cheap and qualified labour to keep going … and sustain the system and its economics. The low birth rate is scary for the US, Russia, China and even the EU which need ever more immigration to prop up the Welfare State. Feeding the ugly beast (capitalism and its elite beneficiaries) is more important than Earth sustainability.

 

Is Earth 🌎 only meant to belong to humans and their pets?

 

Earth should be shared with all the living world in a sustainable way.

 

Let’s not forget that (we all of us know it)… Earth 🌍 would do just fine without Homo Sapiens,

Very well said.

On 5/16/2025 at 5:25 PM, Franck60 said:

Exonerating capitalism and greed tells a lot about how brainwashed you are and how deep you’ve chosen to bury your head in the ground,

Communism is the best way to redistribute poverty, equally.

Climate change nuts can kill themselves

21 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

While you are entitled to your opinion, many of us consider kids to be fabulously over rated and unnecessary. 

What if your dad and mom thought that same way?

22 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

While you are entitled to your opinion, many of us consider kids to be fabulously over rated and unnecessary. 

Do you have any ? 

 

I used to think the same.  Raised one here, TH, village orphan, from age 2, (now 26) and now can't imagine not ever having that experience in my life.

 

Saying that, I would not have one in a 1st world country, as simply too expensive.

22 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

While you are entitled to your opinion, many of us consider kids to be fabulously over rated and unnecessary. 

We will see. Taylor swift will be my thesis. Lets see how the second half of her life goes without kids

52 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Do you have any ? 

 

I used to think the same.  Raised one here, TH, village orphan, from age 2, (now 26) and now can't imagine not ever having that experience in my life.

 

Saying that, I would not have one in a 1st world country, as simply too expensive.

No. Thankfully I never had to go that route. 

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

What if your dad and mom thought that same way?

I would never have missed being alive if I was not conceived. You are offering a bizarre and abstract argument for reproduction.