4 hours ago, Celsius said:

to pay for sex?

 

I came to Thailand not to pay for sex.

 

While it's often claimed that payment is inevitable in some form, that idea is false. Only the usual suspects who don't know any better will stick to this claim.

 

So, why did you come to 🇹🇭 to pay for sex? I mean it's dumb. It's the total opposite of why you should be doing in Thailand.  You pony up for a plane ticket, sacrifice all the good stuff, and then get to line up like a freshly caught fish at immigration, all for the distinct privilege of paying for sex in Thailand. It is a financial and moral self sabotage.  Just pay a hooker back home. Its cheaper and you got more choice. There are Thai and now very popular Vietnamese prostitutes in your country too.

 

Please dont tell me..... she kisses you in the mouth and tells you you're the one.

 

 

 

 

 

As you are the one opening a thread about such subject, you must be the one with problems. Either you visit them on a regular basis or you´re just not even getting it there. After, just trying to deflect from the grim reality. Now try again. Go get one. No need to feel sad. They don´t discriminate.

1 minute ago, daveAustin said:

Personally don’t need to pay for it, but have indulged in my younger days. Whatever. Sometimes it is just less hassle. And, yes, you will end up paying one way or another. That is just how the fairer sex’s brain is wired. How old are you?

Anyway, stop judging mf. Let folk do what they want. Some are here to escape the utter misery of the west, with its mouthy ‘power women’ etc. oh, and yes, for the temples. 

I'm guessing you've never heard an Asian woman screaming. It puts the western Karens to shame. And most western women don't pull knives for minor disagreements. They're quicker to call you out on bad behavior. Here, they steam inside and let it all out where you can hear them a village away. 

29 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Sit on the couch with your wife and watch a good movie with a bottle of wine.

 

Took your advice and I'm out, but unfortunately I still have the internet 

 

 

3 minutes ago, pomchop said:

The good news is that paying for sex in Thailand is generally a one time payment for an hour or so of pleasure.   And the menu changes every day with more or less unlimited choices on the babe buffet.

 

Many guys prefer that to taking a "regular girl" out for expensive dinners, concerts, cocktails, gifts, etc hoping to get some pleasure.  It often works for some who get the "pleasure" so some take it a step forward and get married to a regular girl where they generally provide a house, car, insurance, food, and most of the living expenses.  All great for a while and then over half of these marriages end up in divorce and in most places you can be pretty sure if you have kids that wifey will get the kids and you will pay child support and/or alimony for years. In many places she will also get half or more of everything you have worked for in your life.  Then maybe that Thai gal one time pay to play starts to look a little better.

 

Sure there are exceptions and great for those who do end up with a great wife and they live happily ever after.  I know a few couples like that.  I also know a whole lot more who hated each other after a few years and many of them who have gone through semi hell plus often the kids get caught in the middle.

 

So maybe a better idea is/was to pay a Thai gal?

Some prefer a woman who's only had a couple of partners to one who can't remember how many she had last week, who is a lot more likely to carry an STD, and who might have people waiting in the wings to rip you off or worse.

 

True about the relationships going sour, but that's usually because one hasn't taken the time to vet his prospect.

 

Men with partners tend to live longer, and having someone you trust is more important than anything else.

 

True again, it takes time to find such a treasure, but it's worth the wait, as there's no one else that will have your back in this world through thick and thin. You said the good news is that paying for sex in Thailand is generally a one time payment for an hour or so. How about the next time you have the desire? Having someone you can count on is a lot better than just looking at a woman as someone to get off in, not caring about her pleasure. 

1 minute ago, Celsius said:

 

Took your advice and I'm out, but unfortunately I still have the internet 

 

 

Put the phone down and hug that woman.

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

 

It sounds like you're going through a tough time, and I hear your frustration. If you're feeling disconnected or like things are getting overwhelming, it can be really helpful to talk to someone you trust, or a professional who can offer support and guidance. Taking a break from things that might be contributing to those feelings can also make a big difference. Remember, you're not alone in feeling this way, and there are resources available to help.
 

so how are you doing with the ladies back in Canada, not to good I heard.

5 hours ago, Celsius said:

You came all the way to Thailand

... to pay for sex?

... I came to Thailand not to pay for sex.

No & No

 

Having sex was never a problem.  Having a long term relationship seemed to be a challenge.   But damn fun trying 😎

 

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I prefer having a real gf, even if she's not as hot as a 20 year old on Soi 6.

 

That's more like it, and why first Thai marriage failed miserably.  Only 22 yrs old, and even though I was only 45, had nothing in common, except sex, with a gal that hasn't lived life yet.  

 

Only took 6 months of living together to realize ... oops ... what was I thinking.  An uneducated, 22 yr old, only had sex to offer, and strangely, that simply wasn't enough.  Who would have thought ... oops 

 

I came to TH, to retire early, on a pittance of savings & future ROI already made, just need to wait till they pop, hopefully, or would have been a big F'g mistake, and a very short retirement 🙄

 

Can't retire in the USA, as the cost of the 'privilege' to live there, RE taxes, is enough to actually live in TH.   Enough of the PC BS, why not give TH  a try.

 

Only took another 5 yrs to find a partner, although again, it was fun trying out different ones 😎

 

Only took 10 more years, to decide if I wanted to stay in TH.  Moved, fourth time, to someplace I really wanted to be, build the house (3rd one) that I really want to live in, and stop buying 'walk away' POS cars, since I, we, planned on staying.  

 

On topic, implied anyway ... in a country with an income disparity, to western wealth, or even lack of ...

 

Why does anyone have to 'pay for sex' ?

 

I can only think of a couple, not complimentary, so I'll leave it at that.

 

ENJOY WHATEVER ... life is short, and shorter every year 😎

5 hours ago, Celsius said:

to pay for sex?

 

I came to Thailand not to pay for sex.

 

While it's often claimed that payment is inevitable in some form, that idea is false. Only the usual suspects who don't know any better will stick to this claim.

 

So, why did you come to 🇹🇭 to pay for sex? I mean it's dumb. It's the total opposite of why you should be doing in Thailand.  You pony up for a plane ticket, sacrifice all the good stuff, and then get to line up like a freshly caught fish at immigration, all for the distinct privilege of paying for sex in Thailand. It is a financial and moral self sabotage.  Just pay a hooker back home. Its cheaper and you got more choice. There are Thai and now very popular Vietnamese prostitutes in your country too.

 

Please dont tell me..... she kisses you in the mouth and tells you you're the one.

 

 

 

 

 

Speaking a a single 70 year old, the quality of the hookers is far better in SE Asia than it is in the USA, unless they are in the $1000 per hour rate which is a waste for a guy like me that only needs 3 minutes or less.

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Speaking a a single 70 year old, the quality of the hookers is far better in SE Asia than it is in the USA, unless they are in the $1000 per hour rate which is a waste for a guy like me that only needs 3 minutes or less.

Well said.  The famed Thai "GFE" is not something you can expect from European or US hookers!

6 hours ago, Hummin said:

Do you believe everyone could end up as an soi 6 dog? 
 

I’m not so sure everyone is comfortable with that kind of scene or establishments 

I don't go there but Celsius doesn't understand that as men get older less girls are interested unless money is involved

6 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

I prefer having a real gf, even if she's not as hot as a 20 year old on Soi 6.

 

 

How much do you pay for your "real" girlfriend? How much does she financially contribute vs you? 

10 hours ago, Celsius said:

I came to Thailand

I first came to Thailand on a visa run, all paid for by the UK company that sent me to Malaysia on a gold exploration project.

I agree with Charlie Sheen (Charlie Harper in Two and a Half Men): I don't pay them for sex, I pay them to leave. 

 

And despite what anyone says, 99.999999999% of the time, the guy pays, one way or another.  

4 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Well said.  The famed Thai "GFE" is not something you can expect from European or US hookers!

I wouldn't know as all the ones I ever saw looked like crack heads or tweakers.

And I'd rather abstain than be intimate with someone who looked that unhealthy.

1 minute ago, jas007 said:

I agree with Charlie Sheen (Charlie Harper in Two and a Half Men): I don't pay them for sex, I pay them to leave. 

 

And despite what anyone says, 99.999999999% of the time, the guy pays, one way or another.  

 

Funny you should mention Charlie Sheen alias Charlie Harper in two and half men. A role which suited him personally very well and came easy for him. 

 

 

AI phychological analysis 

 

Charlie Harper on "Two and a Half Men" could be described as having a fun-loving, yet possibly troubled, personality. His behavior was often characterized by a lack of responsibility, addiction to alcohol and sex, and a tendency towards escapism.

 

Some analyses suggest these traits could be linked to childhood trauma and attachment issues, as well as potentially being a manifestation of hypomania. 

Here's a more detailed look:

Fun-Loving and Party Animal:

Charlie was known for his easygoing nature and enjoyment of alcohol and partying. This could be seen as a way to cope with deeper emotional issues or a way to maintain a sense of fun in the face of life's challenges. 

 

Addiction and Substance Abuse:

His excessive drinking and promiscuity are often portrayed as a way to avoid responsibility and deeper emotions, potentially stemming from underlying psychological issues. 

Lack of Responsibility:

Charlie's reluctance to take on serious responsibilities, like his work or his relationship with Alan, could be linked to fear of failure or a lack of self-esteem. 

 

Possible Childhood Trauma:

Some argue that Charlie's behavior is a result of a difficult childhood, particularly his strained relationship with his mother, Evelyn. 

 

Hypomania:

Some analyses, such as the one in Psychology Today, suggest that Charlie's erratic behavior and grandiosity could be indicative of hypomania, a condition characterized by periods of heightened energy and excitement. 

 

Evolutionary Theory:

The analysis also suggests that his behavior can be explained by evolutionary theory, where he might have been trying to maximize mating opportunities despite having a lack of long-term relationship commitment. 

Freud's Psychosexual Stages:

Charlie's behavior could be analyzed through the lens of Freud's psychosexual stages, where his focus on pleasure-seeking might indicate a fixation at certain developmental stages. 

12 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

How much do you pay for your "real" girlfriend? How much does she financially contribute vs you? 

 

A lot of girls in Thailand are up creek. They cannot earn money on their own. So prince charming would have to pick up the tab for her and her mother. 

 

And realistically, those are the ones I can get. I'm not meeting too many high-powered lawyers and hisos. LOL

 

But even the ones with money, they just upgrade everything, so now you have to help finance sending the kids to international schools. 

 

Does that answer your question? 

Whats funny is the expats who goes to their regular bar and have their name on a bottle they bought and it stays in the bar.The writing on the bottle is often in thai..the expats so proud that the girls remember their bottle and who he is.Well..often they write in thai.. cheap Charlie..small d...idiot..smell bad..not hard d...etc etc

 

Women are like cars ..... you either pay to own one, or pay to rent one.

 

I can see the appeal of the variety from renting, but I wouldn't want to rent a succession of Toyota Vios's and Nissan March's, and renting a Ferrari is too expensive as a daily driver.  The 27 THB a month state pension (after tax) only goes so far.

 

But living in Thailand enables us old but not obsolete men to buy a Ferrari for less than the cost of a rental Vios.  There's a few conditions to the purchase  ......  you can't drive other cars and you need to follow the maintenance schedule, but you get a lifetime of free servicing.

 

My own supercar daily driver is a younger model, so looks great and drives like new, and still turns heads when I take her out.

 

So for me, the answer to the old rent or buy question is - buy an exotic supercar .... but if you can't find a good one in your price range, rent.

20 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

A lot of girls in Thailand are up creek. They cannot earn money on their own. So prince charming would have to pick up the tab for her and her mother. 

 

And realistically, those are the ones I can get. I'm not meeting too many high-powered lawyers and hisos. LOL

 

But even the ones with money, they just upgrade everything, so now you have to help finance sending the kids to international schools. 

 

Does that answer your question? 

OK so not a "real" girlfriend but a "fake" girlfriend, but that's OK, just don't kid yourself like many on here do

10 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

My employer flew me out here to set up a new manufacturing facility.

 

So strange that your post history tells a different story.

 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

OK so not a "real" girlfriend but a "fake" girlfriend, but that's OK, just don't kid yourself like many on here do

 

What is "real" and what is "fake"?

Am I "real"? You're talking to an avatar on a computer screen. 

Joe Biden wasn't even real. 

 

But the point is this. Do you just want "quickies" ? Because that's all you'll get at Soi 6. 

 

Is that sufficient for you?

For many people, it isn't. 

So then you have to go through the bs known as a relationship. 

But with all it's bs, it still offers a different dynamic that you can't get in Soi 6. 

 

I was sick in bed the other day  and I talked to a girl all day on Line. It's nice to have things besides a quick fu*ck.

Is she expecting a seafood dinner at some point? Probably. 

 

Who would tolerate me for free?

 

10 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

So strange that your post history tells a different story.

 

 

 

 

 

Hey ya Stalker.

 

Yeah moved on from the first job that brought me here..... Got another.

7 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

What is "real" and what is "fake"?

Am I "real"? You're talking to an avatar on a computer screen. 

Joe Biden wasn't even real. 

 

But the point is this. Do you just want "quickies" ? Because that's all you'll get at Soi 6. 

 

Is that sufficient for you?

For many people, it isn't. 

So then you have to go through the bs known as a relationship. 

But with all it's bs, it still offers a different dynamic that you can't get in Soi 6. 

 

I was sick in bed the other day  and I talked to a girl all day on Line. It's nice to have things besides a quick fu*ck.

Is she expecting a seafood dinner at some point? Probably. 

 

Who would tolerate me for free?

 

I don't want or need a girlfriend but everyone is different, just don't get a paid one then put houses and condos in their name, only last week was reading another story of a falang who lost the property he put in the girlfriends name 

4 hours ago, Hummin said:

 

Funny you should mention Charlie Sheen alias Charlie Harper in two and half men. A role which suited him personally very well and came easy for him. 

 

 

AI phychological analysis 

 

Charlie Harper on "Two and a Half Men" could be described as having a fun-loving, yet possibly troubled, personality. His behavior was often characterized by a lack of responsibility, addiction to alcohol and sex, and a tendency towards escapism.

 

Some analyses suggest these traits could be linked to childhood trauma and attachment issues, as well as potentially being a manifestation of hypomania. 

Here's a more detailed look:

Fun-Loving and Party Animal:

Charlie was known for his easygoing nature and enjoyment of alcohol and partying. This could be seen as a way to cope with deeper emotional issues or a way to maintain a sense of fun in the face of life's challenges. 

 

Addiction and Substance Abuse:

His excessive drinking and promiscuity are often portrayed as a way to avoid responsibility and deeper emotions, potentially stemming from underlying psychological issues. 

Lack of Responsibility:

Charlie's reluctance to take on serious responsibilities, like his work or his relationship with Alan, could be linked to fear of failure or a lack of self-esteem. 

 

Possible Childhood Trauma:

Some argue that Charlie's behavior is a result of a difficult childhood, particularly his strained relationship with his mother, Evelyn. 

 

Hypomania:

Some analyses, such as the one in Psychology Today, suggest that Charlie's erratic behavior and grandiosity could be indicative of hypomania, a condition characterized by periods of heightened energy and excitement. 

 

Evolutionary Theory:

The analysis also suggests that his behavior can be explained by evolutionary theory, where he might have been trying to maximize mating opportunities despite having a lack of long-term relationship commitment. 

Freud's Psychosexual Stages:

Charlie's behavior could be analyzed through the lens of Freud's psychosexual stages, where his focus on pleasure-seeking might indicate a fixation at certain developmental stages. 

I'm pretty sure if they had the money, most human males would love to be Charlie Harper.  

3 hours ago, norsurin said:

Whats funny is the expats who goes to their regular bar and have their name on a bottle they bought and it stays in the bar.The writing on the bottle is often in thai..the expats so proud that the girls remember their bottle and who he is.Well..often they write in thai.. cheap Charlie..small d...idiot..smell bad..not hard d...etc etc

 

Assuming

1. They can't read Thai and

2. They care

15 hours ago, Celsius said:

While it's often claimed that payment is inevitable in some form, that idea is false.

 

That statement is false.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

That statement is false.

Remember when you were in your own country and you met someone and had a relationship. Not transactional or financial. Unless you count wanting something from the other person and giving something in return that's not money - or simply wanting a partner who can give you a good life and you can be happy with - but that's just life rather than some bad transactional thing. . 

Just now, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Unless you count wanting something from the other person and giving something in return that's not money - or simply wanting a partner who can give you a good life and you can be happy with - but that's just life rather than some bad transactional thing. . 

 

No that's transactional. People only enter into relationships when they want something from the other. That can be money, but it need not be, it can be attention, it can be social status, it can be a lot of things, however, usually, with women, it's money.

 

Now, I've had relationships outside of Thailand, and they do start out as non-transactional, simply beacuse it is bad form to spell out the transaction, but in the end, it cost me half my house, which I'd solely paid for with my own genius. So yes, whilst for some time, those relationships can seem non-transactional, in terms of money, usually they are not. Even if it does not go south, you'd still be supporting the wife, paying the mortgage, her food, gifts, etc.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No that's transactional. People only enter into relationships when they want something from the other. That can be money, but it need not be, it can be attention, it can be social status, it can be a lot of things, however, usually, with women, it's money.

 

Now, I've had relationships outside of Thailand, and they do start out as non-transactional, simply beacuse it is bad form to spell out the transaction, but in the end, it cost me half my house, which I'd solely paid for with my own genius. So yes, whilst for some time, those relationships can seem non-transactional, in terms of money, usually they are not. Even if it does not go south, you'd still be supporting the wife, paying the mortgage, her food, gifts, etc.

It's probably been said but I  suppose to a degree it depends on stage of life and what you are up to .. if I was to go out with a lady my age in Australia .. similar to me ..then it wouldn't be about money for either party. Same as when I was 20. But maybe as you hit 30 things like finances and abilities come into it more if you and or them are looking at marriage.

But if I was to search out a 25 year old 11 out of 10 like yours then I guess I'd cop it that $ play a significantly larger than normal role in her decision. Seems fair enough. Point is neither party are bad or scheming in the big picture. Life and relationships is all about bringing something to the table. 

29 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I'm pretty sure if they had the money, most human males would love to be Charlie Harper.  

I promise you, either you are like that or you not. It is that simple, money or not, you are what you are. For some who never had the chance, yes, but they end up in Pattaya sooner or later, or simular place.