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Swedish Man Beaten by Girlfriend & Mob of 10 Men in Soi Buakhao, Pattaya


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42 minutes ago, Gaixare said:

There are 2-3 shots in which the Swede seems to flare up.

 

It's really just the moment when he pushes her to the floor.

 

Clearly he was provoked by the girl grabbing him and then lost his composure. His overly forceful push sent the girl to the floor and this really triggered her then.

 

43 minutes ago, Gaixare said:

Overall, I would rate his self-control in this situation as 4.5 stars out of 5. Excellent self-control in that situation.

 

It's hardly excellent self-control if he pushes a girl to the floor so forcefully that he was lucky he didn't seriously injure her.

 

It's this one use of excessive force against her which would invalidate any self-defence claim and ensure he's convicted of assault.

 

The girl too is guilty of assault, as she slaps the defeated Swede when he kneels on all fours repeatedly.

 

45 minutes ago, Gaixare said:

Some women have more testosterone than some men.

 

We all know women in Thailand can fly into a rage easily. Which  is why it is such a fail to also lose your composure as the Swede did.  He should have removed the arm holding on to him, not push her to the floor hard, but he lost his composure and became aggressive. He was provoked, but it's no excuse.

Posted
27 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It's really just the moment when he pushes her to the floor.

 

Clearly he was provoked by the girl grabbing him and then lost his composure. His overly forceful push sent the girl to the floor and this really triggered her then.

 

I know you 'want' to see it that way, but are you really so sure he 'pushed her to the floor' ???...   I doesn't look that way at all.. She slipped backwards.

 

She was leaning back with her weight and grabbing his arms trying to pull them away from his head..

.. As she leaned back grabbing his arm, his hand slipped off his head (this is why you think he pushed, her, but he just released her grip because his hand slipped... )

 

... She fell back onto the floor - she wasn't pushed, she lost her grip on his arm and fell...  thats it... no violence from the guy.

 

 

There is no indication that the Swede wanting anything else other than to get away...

...  "why you said that to me?.." - is something the aggressive Thai woman said - she was was 100% the aggressor, no aggression from the Swede whatsoever - total submission throughout...

 

 

But... What did he say ???...    something clearly sent her way over the edge...    Nevertheless, this man showed no indications of being aggressive to the woman, no reason for the Thai men to jump in at all.

 

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Posted
12 hours ago, wavodavo said:

When I came to Thailand for the first time in 1990 I was advised by my mates to treat everyone nice and if you get over charged on your bar bill and there is no easy solution just pay up up and get out before it turns bad.  Also treat  everybody  with respect always keep your wits about you and aviod a confict at all times. This turned out to be good advice and 35 trips later I have never had a problem with any local Thaior anybody else for that matter.

 

Very true... 

 

I saw something similar unfold...  two guys out... one guy, got his bill, paid by QR code and left. 

The other guy went to leave 10mins or so later, called his bill and questioned the amount.. the bar tried to charge him for both him and his mate. 

A woman in the bar was going nuts at the guy...      But he had the QR proof that his mate had paid.

He was chilled, went to the casher to sort it... Meanwhile the woman was still shooting off her mouth... 

The guy paid his part of the bill and left... 

 

Maybe the woman made a genuine mistake and thought the other guy didn't pay - but she was extremely quick to boil over, shout and start throwing insults....    just part of the scenery and the guy didn't react... 

 

But it shows how quickly things can boil over when someone is mentally unstable. 

 

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Posted
19 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I know you 'want' to see it that way, but are you really so sure he 'pushed her to the floor' ???...   I doesn't look that way at all.. She slipped backwards.

 

 

I don't "want" to see anything. It's clear in the video that she was pushed. You can clearly see the left arm of the Swede going towards her and then being retracted. He pushed her. It's clear and obvious. And it was a very forceful push too. She did not "slip".

 

21 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

She was leaning back with her weight and grabbing his arms trying to pull them away from his head..

.. As she leaned back grabbing his arm, his hand slipped off his head (this is why you think he pushed, her, but he just released her grip because his hand slipped... )

 

She did fall backwards. Because she was pushed. His hand did not "slip". Good God.

 

22 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

There is no indication that the Swede wanting anything else other than to get away...

 

Apart from the video evidence you mean, which clearly shows he wanted to push her to the floor and did, very forcefully.

 

23 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

  "why you said that to me?.." - is something the aggressive Thai woman said - she was was 100% the aggressor, no aggression from the Swede whatsoever - total submission throughout...

 

The Thai woman was aggressive, but so was the Swede when he very forcefully pushed her to the ground. If that's not agression then nothing is. It's certainly not "total submissiion" to push a woman to the floor that hard.

 

24 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

But... What did he say ???...    something clearly sent her way over the edge...    Nevertheless, this man showed no indications of being aggressive to the woman, no reason for the Thai men to jump in at all.

 

What sent her over the edge was landing on her a$$ due to being shoved hard by the left arm of the Swede. You can see from her body language after she got up she was extra mad then. You repeat the fallacy that the man was not "aggressive" when he aggressively pushed this girl to the floor with his left arm. That's certainly aggressive, and sufficient reason for the Thai men to intervene. How would English guys react when they see an English girl being pushed to the floor by a big Afghan? Probably very similarly.

 

Posted
40 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

His overly forceful push sent the girl to the floor and this really triggered her then.


 

No. The maximum that can be squeezed out is the moment when the Thai lost her balance and the Swede got a little angry and kind of pushed his hand forward. By that time, the Thai was already falling under her own weight and was unable to keep her balance when the Swede tried to throw her off by simply moving his body forward relative to his position and his legs, catching the moment of the Thai's excessive enthusiasm for hitting him and she herself lost her balance.

The main problem that gives away your biased view of the situation is that you completely ignore the fact that the enraged Thai has already hit the Swede many times. That is, she attacked him first and he defended himself. You completely ignore this. And legally, as far as I know (if there are lawyers here? Let me be corrected if I'm wrong), if someone pushed your body, especially with two hands, as happens before a fight, it already gives you grounds to defend yourself. That is, from that moment on, you can hit the person who pushed you in the face. This is already self-defense. Perhaps this subtlety varies from country to country. But in this case, the Thai woman didn't just push the Swede, she pounced on him and pulled him, trying to knock him down. To finish him off with her feet, as if humiliating him according to their weird prejudices about "dirty feet"?! Besides, she probably hit him with her hands or fists before that.
Also, in the laws of any country (maybe except Muslim ones), gender doesn't matter. And you're constantly talking about a fragile girl. It doesn't mean anything.

The chick is feisty and mentally schizo and aggressive, like my first and, I hope, last wife. It's cool to hang out with such hot chicks sometimes. But the main thing is to get away in time.

Posted
22 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

But it shows how quickly things can boil over when someone is mentally unstable. 

 


And there are plenty of them here. A couple of years ago I lived on the other side of the planet and there were absolutely opposite people there - brave. When I returned to Thailand 2 years ago I was still shocked by the contrast. Many things became clear.

Posted
25 minutes ago, Gaixare said:

No. The maximum that can be squeezed out is the moment when the Thai lost her balance and the Swede got a little angry and kind of pushed his hand forward.

 

You have to focus on his left arm. It's at the beginning of the video. You just missed it. If you focus on the left arm you will see that he pushed her to the floor by shoving her with his left arm. She didn't "slip", she didn't "lose her balance", she was pushed. The motion of the left arm gives it away, and is completely aligned with the timing and direction of her fall. She was pushed.

 

And yes, she was pushed as the Swede got a little angry, due to the Thai girl holding on to him.

 

25 minutes ago, Gaixare said:

you completely ignore the fact that the enraged Thai has already hit the Swede many times.

 

No, we do not see the Thai girl hitting him first. All we see at the start of  the second video is the Thai girl holding on to him. The Thai girl hits him after the Swede pushed her to the floor, this clearly made her very mad. She even hit him after the Swede was defeated by the Thais and was kneeling on the floor defenceless.

 

25 minutes ago, Gaixare said:

if someone pushed your body, especially with two hands, as happens before a fight, it already gives you grounds to defend yourself. That is, from that moment on, you can hit the person who pushed you in the face. This is already self-defense.

 

That's total nonsense. The Swede pushed the girl to the floor with great force, the force he used was clearly far greater than the force the Thai girl used to hold on to him. His force was disproportionate and this vitiates any claim of "self-defence".

 

25 minutes ago, Gaixare said:

But in this case, the Thai woman didn't just push the Swede, she pounced on him and pulled him, trying to knock him down.

 

It's totally ludicrous to suggest this petite Thai girl was trying "knock him down". She of course did no such thing, she merely held on to him, this made the Swede aggressive and he pushed her hardly to the floor with his left hand.

 

25 minutes ago, Gaixare said:

To finish him off with her feet, as if humiliating him according to their weird prejudices about "dirty feet"?

 

You've officially crossed over to Crazyland now.

 

25 minutes ago, Gaixare said:

Besides, she probably hit him with her hands or fists before that.

 

Maybe, maybe not. We have no evidence for it.

 

 

Posted
34 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You've officially crossed over to Crazyland now.

 

 

I didn't get it, what do you mean?

 

34 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Maybe, maybe not. We have no evidence for it.


Yes, it is subjective experience while living in Thailand; Thai women easily get violent in fits of jealousy. In general, in many countries women easily attack a man with their fists first, completely forgetting at that moment about gender equality 😆

 

Let's wait for another video where the passerby won't cover the key moment.
 

But in general, the link to the video from Facebook shows who is the real author of this hell.
 

And this is not the behavior of civilized people. This is the behavior of people full of hatred.

In a civilized society and in the family resort city 🤣 🤣 🤣 Legally, the Thai woman who fell on the floor should have called the police and filed a report.


With another video can be a problem. Recent story:

Few days ago in the evening there was a fight coming on Soi 6 because of a drunk tourist and some misunderstandings with the bar administration, classic. I quickly turned on the camera on my phone, almost 100% expecting that, as usual, the security guards now will beat the farang and I will have exclusive video. 😆 I calmly filmed. It happened that one security guard was walking in front of me and I was filming literally from behind his back. And he did not see me. But the head of security was walking behind me, and he pointed to that security guard to pay attention to me, that I was filming. They both came up to me and surrounded me, demanding that I delete the video. I was shocked at how rotten they were, but I did it without any problems. In addition, they well organized came to every foreigners who were filming, demanding that they delete the video, keeping a close eye on everyone. As result there was no fight. So I don’t feel sorry for the deleted video. But I realized how insignificant these guys are. They have not come up with anything better than forcing everyone to delete similar videos of fights with their participation right on the spot. Most likely, the administrators also forbade the girls from the bars from filming or posting/sharing such videos. There was some more <deleted>, but I don't want to give it away so as not to be identified.

Did they solve the problem well?
Have they lost their face in Thai meaning... For me YES.


So, now such videos may be rarer. I'm thinking to buy hidden camera...
And if you filmed one, quickly hide your phone so that you are not notice

Posted
11 minutes ago, Gaixare said:

I didn't get it, what do you mean?

 

The dirty feet nonsense, as per the quote.

11 minutes ago, Gaixare said:

But in general, the link to the video from Facebook shows who is the real author of this hell.

 

Clearly the woman instigated the fracas, however, her holding the Swede resulted in him pushing her hard to the ground, so with that action it is clear who was the cause, the Swede.

 

14 minutes ago, Gaixare said:

And he did not see me. But the head of security was walking behind me, and he pointed to that security guard to pay attention to me, that I was filming. They both came up to me and surrounded me, demanding that I delete the video. I was shocked at how rotten they were, but I did it without any problems. In addition, they well organized came to every foreigners who were filming, demanding that they delete the video, keeping a close eye on everyone.

 

Yes, this is well known to happen. You probably made the right choice.

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