If Thailand assessed reasonable tariffs on Western goods, they wouldn't have this problem. Cut the tariffs and reap the benefits.

Setting aside your personal feelings and opinions about America, it is unthinkable to completely ignore the United States. Over the past 80 years, it has firmly established its strategic economic position. That’s not something you can simply bypass. Moreover, I believe it would not be beneficial for the global trade balance if America were to completely collapse. I also believe that we should be grateful to America for certain things from the past, whether they were done out of self-interest or not.

8 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I agree. I love it here. But I think every nation should do absolutely everything in its power to avoid dealing with America, to avoid trading with America, and to avoid being subject to the whims of a completely insane circus clown. 

Setting aside your personal feelings and opinions about America, it is unthinkable to completely ignore the United States. Over the past 80 years, it has firmly established its strategic economic position. That’s not something you can simply bypass. Moreover, I believe it would not be beneficial for the global trade balance if America were to completely collapse. I also believe that we should be grateful to America for certain things from the past, whether they were done out of self-interest or not.

55 minutes ago, jerrytr said:

So Thailand is supposed to purchase as much as Americans do? The biggest spenders in the universe. Not logical & since the largest economy in the world would even think that was possible is ridiculous. It will never be equal nor should it. Thais will never have the cash to do it. America just be grateful you can spend & stop punishing the world for selling to you. 

 

Let me ask it a different way.  So the USA is supposed to keep buying almost a $trillion a year more than we sell?  How is that sustainable?  More accurately, how long is that sustainable?

 

 

 

 

 

34 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

This is simply an emotive comment from someone that has the syndrome. Do you really think Trump is going to say never mind you don't have to negotiate. I won't slug you at 36%.

Or maybe just suffer through it as t is an old man rapidly declining and will no doubt be dead and gone in a few years.  Asians are typically much more patient and capable of handling bad times than the "i want it all and i want it right now" attitute of so many Americans.

4 minutes ago, peter zwart said:

Setting aside your personal feelings and opinions about America, it is unthinkable to completely ignore the United States. Over the past 80 years, it has firmly established its strategic economic position. That’s not something you can simply bypass. Moreover, I believe it would not be beneficial for the global trade balance if America were to completely collapse. I also believe that we should be grateful to America for certain things from the past, whether they were done out of self-interest or not.

I do tend to agree, I think America has been a very decent steward of world power, and has certainly done a lot to improve the planet. However under Trump a lot of that decency and goodwill is collapsing, and it almost feels as if he's deliberately trying to make America more repulsive and less relevant to the world. 

 

I also think his policies are forcing the hands of a lot of nations, and though it may or may not be his intention, I believe that many nations will become considerably less dependent on America in the years to come. 

You can lead a horse to water. 

Yes, Thailand could put zero tariffs on US goods but will the Thais buy them?

If they were that cheap Thais would have been interested before now.

Better for Thailand to trade with African and Asian nations and not rely on America.

5 minutes ago, Taboo2 said:

And?

And the Thai government should ignore the bullying. It is just a play to get Thailand to make a deal without any substance. There are better options.

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

This is simply an emotive comment from someone that has the syndrome. Do you really think Trump is going to say never mind you don't have to negotiate. I won't slug you at 36%.

Yes!

He will do a TACO!

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

I think America has been a very decent steward of world power, and has certainly done a lot to improve the planet.

Even if true it could only have happened pre Trump 47!

Step One: Reduce the price of exports by 10% by simply returning to last years Thai Baht Exchange rate.

Step Two: Rinse and repeat until the Thai Baht is 20% "weaker" than today, and prepare for incredible export numbers, and record tourism !!!

51 minutes ago, DezLez said:

Even if true it could only have happened pre Trump 47!

Exactly. He is denigrating America in the eyes of the world. Having said that the one thing that I am grateful about towards Trump, is that there used to be so many people that had this ridiculous illusion about how great America was, and now they've kind of been brought down to earth, and he's kind of shaken them to their senses, and they sort of know a lot more than they used to about America, and it's astonishing level of arrogance and dumb, hollow, self-righteousness. 

 

 

 

 

10 hours ago, connda said:

The key term is "retaliatory tariffs" meaning the were put in place to counter Thai tariffs on US good.
Dear Thailand - drop your tariffs on US goods and the US will drop it's tariffs on Thai good.

I don't think it works like that for Trump. Before all these Tariff wars, The average EU tariff on US goods was less than 2% and the average US tariff on EU goods were also comparable, except some targeted tariff on certain goods. Now the average tariff on EU goods to the US is more than 15%. 

4 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

....lick his boots and his mighty fat arse

 

 

Don't forget to kiss the ring.      

2 hours ago, peter zwart said:

Setting aside your personal feelings and opinions about America, it is unthinkable to completely ignore the United States. Over the past 80 years, it has firmly established its strategic economic position. That’s not something you can simply bypass. Moreover, I believe it would not be beneficial for the global trade balance if America were to completely collapse. I also believe that we should be grateful to America for certain things from the past, whether they were done out of self-interest or not.

what was built in 250 years to a prosperous world was cut into pieces by ONE idiot within 6 months.

He did not only destroy US but dragging Europe into the abyss too. Others might follow.

The "Great reset" is underway.

The advantage will not go to the USA.

The repercussions will be endured by the poor but the rich will shrivel and die economically.

Old money will lose significance.

Human population will shrink.

Rodents and cockroaches will thrive.

 

1 hour ago, 0ffshore360 said:

The "Great reset" is underway.

The advantage will not go to the USA.

The repercussions will be endured by the poor but the rich will shrivel and die economically.

Old money will lose significance.

Human population will shrink.

Rodents and cockroaches will thrive.

 

All hail Q!

4 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Taco Trump? 100%, he is a gutless criminal moron. His extortion is being rejected around the globe.

 

So, you're mad at Trump, who you say always chickens out, for not chickening out? 

 

And you're further claiming he's being rejected, on a post where he isn't being rejected?

 

Certainly an interesting approach...

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

 

So, you're mad at Trump, who you say always chickens out, for not chickening out? 

 

And you're further claiming he's being rejected, on a post where he isn't being rejected?

 

Certainly an interesting approach...

He has not chickened out yet, but he will. It is a bullying bluff.

5 hours ago, Purdey said:

You can lead a horse to water. 

Yes, Thailand could put zero tariffs on US goods but will the Thais buy them?

If they were that cheap Thais would have been interested before now.

Better for Thailand to trade with African and Asian nations and not rely on America.

No, Thais won't buy them but Westerners will, at a rate much more friendly to the average farang budget.

15 hours ago, webfact said:

convince US President Donald Trump to reduce hefty retaliatory tariffs.

The tariffs are not "retaliatory" anymore that 3 minus 2 equals 1. It's just math.

Thailand buys less from US in trade value than US buys from Thailand in trade value. Trump claims such simple trade relationship is "cheating" the US that is being paid for what it buys and sells to Thailand.

Then if a nation does not immediately reciprocate Trump's tariff, he "retaliates" by raising his tariff based solely on what he feels personally to satisfy his ego. To date after 3 months I can't see that a single nation out of Trump's imaginary 200 nations has closed a trade deal to satisfy Trump.

Remind me what percentage thailand puts on car imports ?

10 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Trump appears to be a madman on a and rather idiotic crusade, and many of us know that he will not be bringing manufacturing back to America for a dozen good reasons.

 

There is no reasoning with this guy, as he does not possess any reason, you can try to compliment him to the point where exhaustion sets in, that's about the only thing that might work. If you don't appeal to his very fragile ego and insecurities, all bets are off. 

 

Thailand is better off doing what so many other nations are doing, and that is just looking for more reliable trading partners. 

I'd give you some relevance if you'd put your <removed> aside.

 

This time last year the US budget, in accordance with the CBO, had a $75B deficit. This year this time, a $27B Surplus ... and growing. If you look at this website, https://www.whitehouse.gov/investments/, it lists the huge number of investments occurring in the US since he has taken office. I did vote for PDJT, but I don't think I'd invite him to my home. However, he's a business man and our country needs to be run like a business, not a social experiment. Out of the last 16 years, our government has been run by Democrat Administrations, 70+% of Americans decided the we needed a change ... he is doing exactly like the voters wanted.

 

I imagine you're a very nice person, and probably fairly intelligent, so, give him the fair shake I believe you gave those Democrats that came before him and got us in the mess we are. But, if you're really truly upset by what he's done so far, remember, he's got 3.5 more years to greater things!

 

Live in Peace, try being less divisive and enjoy life!

8 hours ago, RMK54 said:

I'd give you some relevance if you'd put your <removed> aside.

 

This time last year the US budget, in accordance with the CBO, had a $75B deficit. This year this time, a $27B Surplus ... and growing. If you look at this website, https://www.whitehouse.gov/investments/, it lists the huge number of investments occurring in the US since he has taken office. I did vote for PDJT, but I don't think I'd invite him to my home. However, he's a business man and our country needs to be run like a business, not a social experiment. Out of the last 16 years, our government has been run by Democrat Administrations, 70+% of Americans decided the we needed a change ... he is doing exactly like the voters wanted.

 

I imagine you're a very nice person, and probably fairly intelligent, so, give him the fair shake I believe you gave those Democrats that came before him and got us in the mess we are. But, if you're really truly upset by what he's done so far, remember, he's got 3.5 more years to greater things!

 

Live in Peace, try being less divisive and enjoy life!

You are discussing the most divisive and hateful president in American history and asking me to be less divisive, when discussing him. That is rich. 

 

I enjoy my life very much. I am not obsessed. But, Trump is giving me alot of ammunition to work with and I am having major fun with it. I especially like how bent out of shape his devotees become when he is criticized. Yet, he can and will level criticism and hurl insults all day long. But, criticism of the goon is expressly prohibited!! 

 

 

 

17 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

You are probably right, there's very little creativity within this government, and very little talent to boot. If they only understood how tariffs really worked, they slow down an economy they don't add to it. They lower the GDP, they don't make it higher, the low tariffs is part of what made America the most dynamic economy in the world after World War II. That's something that the huuuge dunce doesn't understand either. 

 

If they lowered tariffs on fine wine they would attract a more affluent brand of tourists, and a dynamic local wine industry, if they lowered tariffs on luxury goods they would have a booming market. But they don't get it, they don't understand much.

 

 

You're completely wrong. Free trade only benefits corporations like Nike. They get to open factories and pay locals pennies then they import those products back to America and sell them for significantly more. Free trade has completely hollowed out the middle class in America. You seem to still be stuck in the 1970's listening to Milton Friedman.