Staying in a Thai hospital for 3 months is going to cost him. I wonder if he can be moved to a government hospital? 

If he has insurance it won't cover motorcycle accidents, that I know of, and hoping strangers will pay is risky as they might not.

Best of luck to him.

11 minutes ago, vangrop said:

as many an  posters stated, and even experienced motorbike drivers: Don't drive a motorbike except if you are boring of life. Most of us have partners, you can get for 2 a grab or a bolt car for less than 100 baht. Airco, driver everything included.

Last but not least you are a farang so whatever you drive, you are always responsible number one

What nonsense on both counts. While I wouldn't ride in Bkk, Thailand has some of the best biking and I've biked more miles here than driven. Do what you want to do with a staid, no risk life (heck, why not stay indoors), but please don't impart it on others.

Very sad.  Wishing nothing but the best for Willie. 

38 minutes ago, norsurin said:

In surin years ago a German rented a car from a UK bar owner who offered rentals.

He had an accident with a drunk driver who was a thai.2 guys on the motorcycle died.When the police checked that they find out that the barowner didn't have the license to rent out anything.This poor German guy didn't get any help from the UK guy and sat with a bill at 200.000 to the thai families.He couldn't pay it and was jailed until he could pay-I don't know what happened in the end.

So even the Thai was drunk driving the German get the blame.

He should have sued the bar owner for the 200K + damages

will do great for Thai tourism when publicized at his home country

I've been preaching against motorbikes for a long time on here. These things should be banned for people's own good. 

 

Leave the machismo behind and get off the motorbikes, people. 

 

Very tragic for someone to lose their legs. 

4 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Since the guy awoke from a coma and appears to be disoriented and barely recognizes his family, how did they determine its the other drivers fault? 

Witnesses, CCTV 

7 hours ago, webfact said:

A fundraiser initiated by June

I was looking for that.

Again.

1. Don't ride a motorbike

2. Check your valid insurance

3 hours ago, JustinTyme said:

Willing to bet that even IF he had insurance, it would NOT cover a motorbike accident.  But the real point for me is, these people who feel obliged to constantly post "Tragic, but travel insurance ??" ... self righteous and frankly, a bit mean spirited, considering a young man in the prime of his life, is in such horrible circumstances.  Olav, this is not a chipped tooth or fractured wrist, HE LOST BOTH LEGS.  While we are on the subject Olav, might I ask, in what way do you have ANY skin in the game?  Do you pay taxes, does this effect you in ANY way? 

 

I don't agree it's s self righteous,  a lot of people don't know travel insurance doesn't cover bike riding (unless a full licence plus proper insurance) to dangerous sports.  Getting that awareness out is important.  So is getting full medical. And riding a  bike in Thailand, do so at own serious risk. I feel sorry for the guy, his retirement dream/career (I guess in Thailand perm, or even if on holiday) is down the toilet BUT if he had read of something similar before and not been on a  bike or at least properly licenced and insured? Make people aware! I knew one 20 something killed and seen a few brains on tarmac in my time in Asia.

12 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Witnesses, CCTV 

 

Please, show us both. 

2 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Based on the new information that he dropped the bike and slid under a 20 wheeled lorry, who probably never even knew anything happened, I'm not sure the lorry driver is guilty of anything.

     Agree.  Yet another case of somebody driving a motorbike, likely with no experience, on roads they also have no experience with.   The result?  This.

1 hour ago, Purdey said:

Staying in a Thai hospital for 3 months is going to cost him. I wonder if he can be moved to a government hospital? 

If he has insurance it won't cover motorcycle accidents, that I know of, and hoping strangers will pay is risky as they might not.

Best of luck to him.

I think he is in a government hospital, he got turned away from Phyathai Hospital, even though it was very close,  its in this article

 

https://www.newsflare.com/video/773207/british-retiree-54-fighting-for-his-life-after-horror-hit-and-run-in-thailand?origin=newsflare-picks

 

 

Does valid car insurance include medical cover? I always have travel insurance but when in Thailand I drive a family car and I am included on the car insurance. Just wondering in the event of an accident can I use the car insurance for medical treatment rather than the travel insurance.

19 minutes ago, Seppius said:

I think he is in a government hospital, he got turned away from Phyathai Hospital, even though it was very close,  its in this article

 

https://www.newsflare.com/video/773207/british-retiree-54-fighting-for-his-life-after-horror-hit-and-run-in-thailand?origin=newsflare-picks

 

 

 

Finally, video! ... he's undertaking the truck, then locks up his brakes and drops the bike sliding into a protected lane (solid line) right into the rear of the dashcam car, then gets run over by the truck as it swerves to miss him. This is all on the motorcycle rider, lack of driving skills, and refusal to slow down, possibly trying to change lanes illegally by undertaking because of the parked cars in his own lane.

In 1992 I was blind drunk, 04.00 morning, did an illegal right turn into Asoke (BKK) and a pickup truck rammed into me. Driver didn’t do anything wrong but “fled the scene”. It’s what Thais do.

Police attended, stopped a Tuk Tuk said get in and go home. My company car was a right off.

19 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Finally, video! ... he's undertaking the truck, then locks up his brakes and drops the bike sliding into a protected lane (solid line) right into the rear of the dashcam car, then gets run over by the truck as it swerves to miss him. This is all on the motorcycle rider, lack of driving skills, and refusal to slow down, possibly trying to change lanes illegally by undertaking because of the parked cars in his own lane.

 

You ignored that the road was WET, possibly still raining.

 

The truck moves from the left (slow) lane into the middle lane behind the dashcam car, possibly without signalling or caring if any other vehicle was already in that lane, squeezing the motorcycle into the "protected lane" with parked vehicles in it. You can't tell if the rider "locks up his brakes" or hit a pothole or a lump of standing water or clipped a parked car that set him into a fast slide AHEAD or the truck and trailer.

 

Either way, the motorcycle was OVERTAKING the truck, passing on the driver's side of the truck, a LEGAL move.

 

You ignored the truck and trailer clearly bouncing as it drove over the bike and the rider, before accelerating away WHILE ALL OTHER TRAFFIC STOPPED. Any claims that the truck driver probably didn't feel anything is NONSENSE. He knew what he had run over, and he chose not to stop.

11 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

You ignored that the road was WET, possibly still raining.

 

The truck moves from the left (slow) lane into the middle lane behind the dashcam car, possibly without signalling or caring if any other vehicle was already in that lane, squeezing the motorcycle into the "protected lane" with parked vehicles in it. You can't tell if the rider "locks up his brakes" or hit a pothole or a lump of standing water or clipped a parked car that set him into a fast slide AHEAD or the truck and trailer.

 

Either way, the motorcycle was OVERTAKING the truck, passing on the driver's side of the truck, a LEGAL move.

 

You ignored the truck and trailer clearly bouncing as it drove over the bike and the rider, before accelerating away WHILE ALL OTHER TRAFFIC STOPPED. Any claims that the truck driver probably didn't feel anything is NONSENSE. He knew what he had run over, and he chose not to stop.

 

Wrong wrong wrong ......he is overtaking on the passenger side!!!! It's a rearview camera view! The truck is in the middle lane when the bike encounters the parked cars and then swerves across the solid line into the middle lane, locks up his brakes and literally crashes into the dashcam car. There are 2 solid lines as they approach the zebra crossing, thus NO lane changes allowed!

While in Thailand, I avoided two specific things: riding a motorbike and engaging with prostitutes. I saw both as carrying serious, life-threatening risks.

36 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Wrong wrong wrong ......he is overtaking on the passenger side!!!! It's a rearview camera view! The truck is in the middle lane when the bike encounters the parked cars and then swerves across the solid line into the middle lane, locks up his brakes and literally crashes into the dashcam car. There are 2 solid lines as they approach the zebra crossing, thus NO lane changes allowed!

 

What has the rearview camera have to do with anything here? 

 

The motorcycle is first seen on the left-hand side of the dashcam screen, looking backwards, that is the right-hand side of the dashcam car and the truck, ie. the DRIVER'S side = the RIGHT side which is where you can LEGALLY overtake.

 

The truck, after swerving back into the left-hand lane: left-to-right on the dashcam screen, and after bouncing over the motorcycle and rider, then UNDERTOOK the dashcam car, passing on the passenger side, crossing the solid lines and the zebra crossing WITH CARS PARKED ON IT, that you think are so important.

 

Frame-by-frame and it looks like the motorbike may have either clipped that first, unlit parked car, or lost control as he tried to avoid it. Bad judgement for sure but, there's absolutely no way that truck driver didn't know what had just happened. He'll be with his mum at the temple by now, maybe even a 30-day monk already.

23 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

What has the rearview camera have to do with anything here? 

 

The motorcycle is first seen on the left-hand side of the dashcam screen, looking backwards, that is the right-hand side of the dashcam car and the truck, ie. the DRIVER'S side = the RIGHT side which is where you can LEGALLY overtake.

 

The truck, after swerving back into the left-hand lane: left-to-right on the dashcam screen, and after bouncing over the motorcycle and rider, then UNDERTOOK the dashcam car, passing on the passenger side, crossing the solid lines and the zebra crossing WITH CARS PARKED ON IT, that you think are so important.

 

Frame-by-frame and it looks like the motorbike may have either clipped that first, unlit parked car, or lost control as he tried to avoid it. Bad judgement for sure but, there's absolutely no way that truck driver didn't know what had just happened. He'll be with his mum at the temple by now, maybe even a 30-day monk already.

 

Again, you don't seem to understand what you are watching, try again.....pay very close attention, because you are so wrong it's almost pathetic. 

 

Hint: The rearview camera view is flipped. The motorcycle can't pass on the driver's side where "parked" cars are located.

I hope he gets well soon.

 

This tragedy illustrates why you should have medical insurance, especially if you ride scooters.

This is a horrifying accident and my prayers go out to him for his recovery, but did he not have any insurance of any kind ????

 

It seems to me that too many people are too "cheap" and wont buy insurance but just rely on "GoFundMe" to pick up the tab when a major trauma like this occurs. Medical bills and potential repatriation are going to be HUGE for this.

 

Just saying

 

 

24 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Again, you don't seem to understand what you are watching, try again.....pay very close attention, because you are so wrong it's almost pathetic. 

 

Hint: The rearview camera view is flipped. The motorcycle can't pass on the driver's side where "parked" cars are located.

 

Good call. That makes sense if the dash cam display is flipped and it means the rider ran out of room on the undertake. The rear view imagery isn't flipped on my dash cam, but it's not a cheap dash cam.

 

Are you still pathetically claiming the truck driver has nothing to answer for? You know, failing to stop after being involved in a collision?

Just now, NanLaew said:

Are you still pathetically claiming the truck driver has nothing to answer for? You know, failing to stop after being involved in a collision?

From the film it looks like he swerves to avoid the bike hitting the dashcam car, I assume the rider is further back on the ground, he may have never seen him down under the high dashboard, assuming that he thought he missed crashing into another crash scene. He is at most guilty of leaving the scene of an accident, if they can prove he ever thought he got in an accident to begin with, the bike never got hit by the lorry. Either way the biker caused this accident, and is responsible for his own predicament. I'm impressed at the swerving maneuver of the lorry, he probably saved him from getting killed.

13 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Finally, video! ... he's undertaking the truck, then locks up his brakes and drops the bike sliding into a protected lane (solid line) right into the rear of the dashcam car, then gets run over by the truck as it swerves to miss him. This is all on the motorcycle rider, lack of driving skills, and refusal to slow down, possibly trying to change lanes illegally by undertaking because of the parked cars in his own lane.

 

It may or may not have anything to do with lack of driving skills.

 

I think most people who ride motorcycles have the intention of being Evil Knevil on the roads. 

 

Most motorcycle riders avoid the laws and change lanes illegally and refuse to slow down, as far as I've gathered. 

 

2 hours ago, Geoff914 said:

Does valid car insurance include medical cover? I always have travel insurance but when in Thailand I drive a family car and I am included on the car insurance. Just wondering in the event of an accident can I use the car insurance for medical treatment rather than the travel insurance.

Check your insurance incl. small prints

5 hours ago, ukrules said:

 

That's where the police investigation comes in, or not - will be interesting to see the outcome of this.

If he had no insurance I wonder what would have happened? I also wonder if they demanded a deposit?

 

This is the kind of nightmare scenario which can happen to any one of us at pretty much any time, hence the need for a decent insurance cover which luckily he appears to have planned for in advance of the unforeseen.

Actually, it cannot happen to those smart enough to never to get on a motorbike in Thailand in the first place. 

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

I hope he gets well soon.

 

This tragedy illustrates why you should have medical insurance, especially if you ride scooters.

There really is no need to ride a motorbike in Thailand. Songtows are extremely cheap as well as taxis, and they are everywhere.

6 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

If he's apprehended, it means at least one charge, even if it isn't his fault. I think it's something like failing to render aid, or similar.

 

Anyway, I'm not sure why you are arguing the point of who's to blame, as the OP states (my emphasis)

 

...tragically lost both legs following an alleged hit and run...

 

 

Well, he certainly ran ....

2 hours ago, Geoff914 said:

Does valid car insurance include medical cover? I always have travel insurance but when in Thailand I drive a family car and I am included on the car insurance. Just wondering in the event of an accident can I use the car insurance for medical treatment rather than the travel insurance.

 

Best check the policy. Sounds like it may be something you've entrusted to your partner? In my experience, Thai "significant others" aren't too savvy on car insurance and the price of the premium (keeping it cheap) is their key criteria. At the very least, you need to be a named driver on the policy.