17 minutes ago, JakeC said:

There appears to be something going on in your head

 

He wishes.

3 hours ago, JakeC said:

The article states that the PCX turned at a pedestrian crossing, so no one would be expecting that.

 

...unless they were an inexperienced foreign rider, probably with no valid scooter licence and possibly out of their tree on ganja...

 

But that's enough speculation on what migt have happened, so try this instead. After a collision with another scooter or vehicle, would you run away, leaving a fellow passenger injured? Could you?

@NanLaew I would not. That's why I say that both parties are responsible, rather than just the foreigners.

 

I think I recall not too long ago, a story of a foreigner being repeatedly punched in the head when he stopped after an accident.

 

I am neither anti-foreigner nor anti-Thai. I care about everyone, even the repugnant types here. 😊

2 minutes ago, JakeC said:

I am neither anti-foreigner nor anti-Thai. I care about everyone, even the repugnant types here.

 

I'm with you on that, but sometimes they, on either side, don't make it easy.

If you would ask me, on the face of it, what would be fair, I would say that everyone pays for their own damages and the boys take care of 'their' respective girls.

18 hours ago, JakeC said:

Witnesses told police the PCX was travelling straight when it made a U-turn at a pedestrian crossing.

Case closed. They know the cause of the accident. Illegal U-turn by the PCX(obviously not "travelling straight").

 

 

And there was me blaming the demon weed!

19 hours ago, JakeC said:

Really? For crashing into a bike that made a u-turn at a pedestrian crossing? 

 

So @norsurin if you crashed into someone who made an illegal u-turn, you should be "jailed and deported"?

My motto is always flee the scene of an accident here! especially if its not your fault!!!

19 hours ago, JakeC said:

Really? For crashing into a bike that made a u-turn at a pedestrian crossing? 

 

So @norsurin if you crashed into someone who made an illegal u-turn, you should be "jailed and deported"?

Nope. The should be for fleeing the scene.  Yes I know, it's always the falangs fault, so they boogie, but decent humans would have stayed,

20 hours ago, JakeC said:

Really? For crashing into a bike that made a u-turn at a pedestrian crossing? 

 

So @norsurin if you crashed into someone who made an illegal u-turn, you should be "jailed and deported"?

No... not guilty for that.

But: leaving the scene of an accident and injured people... yes.

32 minutes ago, RonJr said:

My motto is always flee the scene of an accident here! especially if its not your fault!!!

 

When in Rome...

Leaving the scene of an accident implies they either knew they were doing something wrong (i.e. intoxicated or no license, etc) or they thought that it wouldn't matter and they'd be held responsible no matter what.

And that bag of cannabis would also be problematic. You have to be 20+ to buy/use weed to begin with. 

Recreational use was re-criminalized on 25 June 2025 so you can only buy/smoke it if you have a (proven) medical condition. 
As well, extracts containing more the 0.2% THC are still considered a Class 5 drug AND possession of more than 30 grams (ONE ounce) is considered "intent to distribute" - as in drug trafficking.
It doesn't say how much cannabis was in the "large clear zip-lock bag" but saying it was a "large" bag would suggest it was more than just a couple joints worth of weed.


I was in an accident once in Sisaket where an ancient fossil suddenly crossed two lanes of traffic to make a u-turn right in front of me - with no license, no helmet, no signals or even a glance to see if the lane was clear. 

But ! As soon as the senior policeman found out I had Class 1 insurance - case closed. He literally closed his notebook and walked away because, to him, who was right or wrong didn't matter. No one was dead or seriously injured and MY class 1 insurance would end up paying for everything. (Meanwhile, the old guy probably didn't even have the mandatory gov't insurance.)
(And never mind that MY insurance premiums would get jacked up the next year.)

In a case a couple years ago, a pick-up truck ran a stop sign just as I was about to cross an intersection. HIS dash cam even showed him blowing through the stop sign without slowing down. (I watched the recording on a police computer in the Huay Yai station.)

But ! Because I'm a foreigner and I "hit his truck" - it was decided that I was as much to blame as he was. (Apparently 325 kg motorcycles doing 60km/hr should be able to stop in 2-3 meters with less than a second's response time I guess.)

They even told me at the police station that if he'd hit me, then they would have held him at fault for the accident ! I pointed out that if I'd entered the intersection and then been hit by him, I wouldn't be alive to talk about it. (And probably would have been 100% blamed for the accident as well though I didn't say that out loud.)

And shocker - I was the only one to be tested for alcohol (I was 100% sober).
He showed up at the hospital, dropped off his wife and then left. (It was around 13:30 on a Sunday afternoon and I suspect he'd had a few at lunch time, hence his hurry to get away from the scene and the hospital before anyone could suggest he be tested.)

It would be interesting to see if there is CCTV coverage of this incident.

And wasn't it just a week or two ago that there was an accident on Jomtien #2 road when a delivery rider made a u-turn and was hit by an oncoming vehicle ?

I've ridden on that road many a time and the way some people cut across the crosswalks and u-turns in the face of speeding oncoming traffic is almost suicidal.

Wait 2 seconds for the speeding car to go by and then make your turn ?
"NO WAY ! That's TWO seconds of my life I'll never get back ! Besides - I'm sure I can beat him - or he'll hit the brakes to avoid hitting me so I'm going for it !"

That is literally the attitude of half the scooter riders you see anywhere in the city, local or foreigner. And half the foreigners are just as bad when it comes to not wearing a helmet either. They act like they think they are "special" and the rules don't apply to them.

And then whine like little babies when they get a ticket and realize they aren't that "special" after all. "Waaaa they only target foreigners for not wearing helmets - or not having a license - or not having registration or a tax decal - waaaa !"

How many times have we heard that on this site ?


 

I see blood, broken bikes, broken people, but I seem to be missing any helmets.

22 hours ago, JakeC said:

Really? For crashing into a bike that made a u-turn at a pedestrian crossing? 

 

So @norsurin if you crashed into someone who made an illegal u-turn, you should be "jailed and deported"?

If u leave the scene yes!

23 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

The rider, 17-year-old

 

Give it PCX with 110ccm? I never listen!!! Did him drive without a valid driving license?

 

20 hours ago, JakeC said:

@novacova Quite the weird rant... For the record, what is a "bruised up lefty"?

Man up? About what may I ask?

There appears to be something going on in your head prior to any engagement here. I suggest you deal with that and then come back when you can write and make sense at the same time. I'm not the one demonstrating someone taking out their aggression. That would be you. Not just on this thread, but here; 

 and 

 

today alone. I wouldn't be surprised if there is more. Why so miserable and angry?

NowNow there you go again Now now take it easy and don’t be so bitterly hard on yourself, it looks silly.

It is called law and stipulates helmets ......... does not beautify the disappearance of the "foreigners" but lots of blood and possible scars could have been avoided by the affected. 

On 8/12/2025 at 12:18 PM, JakeC said:

Really? For crashing into a bike that made a u-turn at a pedestrian crossing? 

 

So @norsurin if you crashed into someone who made an illegal u-turn, you should be "jailed and deported"?

The 2 that ran were dope dealing, they should be pursued and questioned also the passenger 

"I see blood, broken bikes, broken people, but I seem to be missing any helmets." 

 

The increased penalties for no helmet have had zero effect, mainly as the BIB are too lazy to enforce them. Pattaya Third road, over South Road stopped at next lights, I counted 17 people on bikes without helmets, at 5.30pm!! 

On 8/12/2025 at 6:49 AM, JakeC said:

@norsurin Please provide proof of that or simply 'wind your neck in'. 

The article states that the PCX turned at a pedestrian crossing, so no one would be expecting that. The onus is on the person undertaking the illegal action, to do it safely without impacting the safety of others. They failed. Their fault. 

Honda ADV riders should not have left the scene, but they obviously did not want to be blamed for an accident that someone else caused. Perhaps they decided to go to the hospital or clinic immediately. 

"Honda ADV riders should not have left the scene". No one in Thailand hangs around after an accident like that, foreign or thai.

@kiwikeith What evidence do you have that they were 'dope dealing'? Members here write about buying amounts of 50 to 100 grams for their personal use. Are they dope dealers to your mind? Your mind is the problem. Creating scenarios in your mind to try to make yourself feel superior.

 

The zebra crossing in the article is at the top of a hill. Passing by, I've seen people sprawled out there after being hit. Residents there talked about more accidents. So clearly an ongoing thing.

Careless riding by both parties involved. 

@novacova You should get that seen to, as your posts are becoming increasingly unhinged.

2 hours ago, JakeC said:

@kiwikeith What evidence do you have that they were 'dope dealing'? Members here write about buying amounts of 50 to 100 grams for their personal use. Are they dope dealers to your mind? Your mind is the problem. Creating scenarios in your mind to try to make yourself feel superior.

 

The zebra crossing in the article is at the top of a hill. Passing by, I've seen people sprawled out there after being hit. Residents there talked about more accidents. So clearly an ongoing thing.

Careless riding by both parties involved. 

A large bag of dope found, and runaways, spells supspect, no more evidence required.

@kiwikeith  How large is large? Are you imagining a sack? It's not that I know about these things, but I would not have automatically assumed that they were dealers. Dealing to whom? There are shops to which people can go. 

You have a more vivid imagination than I.

Who was the thai driver involved and who were the falangs ? Because that will decide who was at fault as usual by the thai cops. 

13 hours ago, JakeC said:

@kiwikeith  How large is large? Are you imagining a sack? It's not that I know about these things, but I would not have automatically assumed that they were dealers. Dealing to whom? There are shops to which people can go. 

You have a more vivid imagination than I.

You must be friends of the runaways, or on something 

On 8/12/2025 at 12:29 PM, JakeC said:

@norsurin Cannabis is not illegal, so what does that have to do with anything? They might have run away after being threatened. Who knows?

You just seem a bit too quick to apportion blame to the foreigners, but have made no mention of the actual cause of the accident.

 

Not illegal? but it's illegal to ride a bike stoned.

8 minutes ago, henryford1958 said:

 

Not illegal? but it's illegal to ride a bike stoned.

 

It's also illegal to do a U-turn in a pedestrian crossing, which is the cause of this accident.