August 16, 2025Aug 16 2 minutes ago, baansgr said: From 5th September they will know where you are as they will track all passport movements..try telling them your living in Essex and not issan,.don't think it will work. What changes on 5th September? The government already have that information through API data but are they going to change what they do with it?
August 16, 2025Aug 16 2 minutes ago, treetops said: What changes on 5th September? The government already have that information through API data but are they going to change what they do with it? I'll try and get the link I watched a few days ago
August 16, 2025Aug 16 7 minutes ago, jori123 said: how could anyone believe a pensioner could possibly be a target on a none means tested benefit Are pensioners incapable of fraud / theft of Public Funds ? Anyone in receipt of DWP Payments will be a target, to crack down and eliminate Fraud / Theft of Public Funds.
August 16, 2025Aug 16 25 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: Are pensioners incapable of fraud / theft of Public Funds ? Anyone in receipt of DWP Payments will be a target, to crack down and eliminate Fraud / Theft of Public Funds. Can't we just agree to disagree? You are taking the apocalyptic version as you did in the Thai tax thread/CRS..........which has yet to come to pass.......... I don't doubt that it will get like that long term but unlikely I suggest in the next 5-10 years. If it captures a few who illegally claim increases/benefits due to location then they knew the risks. Nothing burger for most especially the OP............
August 16, 2025Aug 16 3 minutes ago, topt said: Can't we just agree to disagree? No problem. But if you want to know where this is coming from. This is the first gang convicted. There are more still, that are yet to come to trial https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/members-britains-biggest-benefit-fraud-gang-jailed-combined-total-more-25-years A rocket was sent into the DWP at the completion of this case. Everyone who gets funds from the DWP will be under the microscope. Likewise the Banks, who were facilitating it.
August 16, 2025Aug 16 51 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: Are pensioners incapable of fraud / theft of Public Funds ? Anyone in receipt of DWP Payments will be a target, to crack down and eliminate Fraud / Theft of Public Funds. ' DWP given extra powers..."might have breached eligibility exceeding 16000 limit for universal credit...banks share information,but cannot provide transaction details,will not see how claimants spend their money....institutions face penalties if oversharing dwp will not gain access but will be flagged"
August 16, 2025Aug 16 5 minutes ago, jori123 said: ' DWP given extra powers..."might have breached eligibility exceeding 16000 limit for universal credit...banks share information,but cannot provide transaction details,will not see how claimants spend their money....institutions face penalties if oversharing dwp will not gain access but will be flagged" Great answer, sadly for you, nothing to do with what I asked you 1 hour ago, The Cyclist said: Are pensioners incapable of fraud / theft of Public Funds ?
August 16, 2025Aug 16 1 hour ago, The Cyclist said: No problem. But if you want to know where this is coming from. This is the first gang convicted. And well done finally to the authorities........even though this article is over a year old.......Got any more recent articles? But f all to do with the state pension which is what this thread was started over and what my comments were about.
August 16, 2025Aug 16 2 minutes ago, topt said: And well done finally to the authorities........even though this article is over a year old.......Got any more recent articles? Other cases have not reached Court yet 3 minutes ago, topt said: But f all to do with the state pension Try looking at it from the perspective of money sent to banks with a transfer code that contains the letters " DWP " which covers State Pensions. Rather than an attack on State Pensions / Pensioners. If you are unsure of what I am talking about. Simply go into your bank and ask for an annual printout. Identify your State Pension payment and check the transfer code. It will contain the letters DWP and some digits. All bank accounts that receive these types of payments will be monitored for evidence of Fraud / Theft of Public money.
August 16, 2025Aug 16 2 hours ago, BritManToo said: So many people frightened of their government ............ A government that can't even deliver a proof of life request on time. How many extra staff do they need to trawl through 22M bank accounts? That's 88,000 bank statements to examine every single working day! No extra staff required data results can be provided by using a software algorithm data input side DWP provide bank account details to each bank software algorithm looks for accounts that have 1) no direct debits 2) no payments to utility services 3) no payments to council taxes 4) accounts that don't have weekly withdrawls 5) accounts that have no atm withdrawls software algorithm can be run daily, weekly or monthly
August 16, 2025Aug 16 51 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: If you are unsure of what I am talking about. Simply go into your bank and ask for an annual printout. Identify your State Pension payment and check the transfer code. It will contain the letters DWP and some digits. You are making assumptions........which are incorrect 52 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: All bank accounts that receive these types of payments will be monitored for evidence of Fraud / Theft of Public money. Agree to disagree.....again
August 16, 2025Aug 16 8 hours ago, vinny41 said: No extra staff required data results can be provided by using a software algorithm data input side DWP provide bank account details to each bank software algorithm looks for accounts that have 1) no direct debits 2) no payments to utility services 3) no payments to council taxes 4) accounts that don't have weekly withdrawls 5) accounts that have no atm withdrawls software algorithm can be run daily, weekly or monthly Lots of old people living in care/nursing homes to be looked at then.
August 17, 2025Aug 17 9 hours ago, topt said: You are making assumptions........which are incorrect That is not an assumption, it is a fact. That is why I gave you the information, so that you can check it out for yourself. 9 hours ago, topt said: Agree to disagree.....again Again, no problem with disagreeing. That what a discussion is about. It may affect you, it may not affect you, but it will happen.
August 17, 2025Aug 17 12 hours ago, The Cyclist said: Great answer, sadly for you, nothing to do with what I asked you The thread is new banking details,again new banking details ,not about pensioners committing fraud/theft,got those knickers of yours in a twist,seems to be twisting more with others too,never mind cyclist trick cyclist required perhaps DWP cannot seek transaction details,where money goes or spending details directly,but could well be flagged by bank,but at end of day those unfrozen pensioners in Thailand are as innocent as the day they were born
August 17, 2025Aug 17 5 minutes ago, jori123 said: The thread is new banking details,again new banking details ,not about pensioners committing fraud/theft,got those knickers of yours in a twist,seems to be twisting more with others too,never mind cyclist trick cyclist required perhaps DWP cannot seek transaction details,where money goes or spending details directly,but could well be flagged by bank,but at end of day those unfrozen pensioners in Thailand are as innocent as the day they were born Are you partaking in illicit substances? 6 minutes ago, jori123 said: ,got those knickers of yours in a twist Why would my knickers be in a twist ? I don't get any money from the DWP, neither am I old enough to claim the State Pension. But you might want to open your eyes, join the dots and see what is coming.
August 17, 2025Aug 17 16 hours ago, The Cyclist said: 1. Pension payments to a UK bank being transferred via Wise etc, on a regular basis. 2. No UK debit card spending / withdrawals Just off the top of my head. Every UK bank has a compliance department. They will do the donkey work. Correction, the banks and DWP will be using AI donkeys that are way, way, WAY faster than anyone squatting long-time in a fan room on Soi Khopai can cancel their bogus winter fuel allowance claim
August 17, 2025Aug 17 3 minutes ago, NanLaew said: Correction, the banks and DWP will be using AI donkeys that are way, way, WAY faster than anyone squatting long-time in a fan room on Soi Khopai can cancel their bogus winter fuel allowance claim Whatever method they deploy. Some need to grasp the fact that it is happening.
August 17, 2025Aug 17 Popular Post 10 hours ago, jori123 said: 8 hours ago, NanLaew said: Correction, the banks and DWP will be using AI donkeys that are way, way, WAY faster than anyone squatting long-time in a fan room on Soi Khopai can cancel their bogus winter fuel allowance claim So what exactly,its paid automatically,no claiming anything,want to cancel ? sept 15 is this supposed to be scary stuff? ,more crap along with the biker guy,never ending crap,no dots ,nothing will change the individual /the bank/the transfer into that bank end of awaiting more crap
August 20, 2025Aug 20 A gang of Bulgarians fleeced the SS for milllions of pounds in false claims so they’re tightening up on everything now as if everyone is bogus
August 20, 2025Aug 20 The U.K. is being over run by asylum seekers going into the country by rubber boats and there could be others who are not found out ,hence starmer is panicking over unknown migrants which could even be Russian spy’s
August 20, 2025Aug 20 11 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said: A gang of Bulgarians fleeced the SS for milllions of pounds in false claims so they’re tightening up on everything now as if everyone is bogus Not just Bulgarians Quote A Paisley man has admitted running a large-scale benefits scam that saw him steal the identities of 68 people to fraudulently claim almost £170,000 in Universal Credit. James Stephen Barley, 37, appeared at Carlisle’s Rickergate court, where he pleaded guilty to three charges linked to the elaborate scheme. The offences covered a period from December 2018 to March 2021 and involved 157 separate fraudulent applications. https://solicitornews.co.uk/man-admits-universal-credit-fraud-68-identities/ And this is why the recipients of monies from the DWP, will be getting scrutinized That scrutiny will also cover State Pensioners.
August 20, 2025Aug 20 On 8/17/2025 at 11:03 AM, NanLaew said: Correction, the banks and DWP will be using AI donkeys that are way, way, WAY faster than anyone squatting long-time in a fan room on Soi Khopai can cancel their bogus winter fuel allowance claim There was never any way to refuse the winter fuel payment. It was put in your bank whether you wanted it or not. I don't want the 10 pound xmas bonus either. I'm not after charity, I just want the full pension I paid 20% of my lifetime income to have. Completely off topic, Brit government says they may not change the pension claim age to 68 as life expectancy numbers seem to be far more than the reality. Allegedly the average length of a Brit currently claiming the state pension is only 8 years.
August 21, 2025Aug 21 One side effect of this enhanced scrutiny, I suspect, is going to be stricter enforcement of the rules about where pensions can be paid, namely: Quote Your State Pension can be paid into: - a bank in the country you’re living in - a bank or building society in the UK https://www.gov.uk/state-pension-if-you-retire-abroad This excludes the likes of Wise and Revolut, and offshore bank accounts (Channel Islands, Isle of Man). The UK government can't scrutinise these foreign bank accounts or force the institutions to reveal information, hence their use will almost certainly be banned in the future.
August 21, 2025Aug 21 1 minute ago, Zaphod Priest said: One side effect of this enhanced scrutiny, I suspect, is going to be stricter enforcement of the rules about where pensions can be paid, namely: This excludes the likes of Wise and Revolut, and offshore bank accounts (Channel Islands, Isle of Man). The UK government can't scrutinise these foreign bank accounts or force the institutions to reveal information, hence their use will almost certainly be banned in the future. That quite simply won't happen.
August 21, 2025Aug 21 3 hours ago, BritManToo said: There was never any way to refuse the winter fuel payment. It was put in your bank whether you wanted it or not. There is now.
August 21, 2025Aug 21 7 hours ago, Zaphod Priest said: This excludes the likes of Wise and Revolut Can't see the logic here. I get my State Pension paid into "a bank or building society in the UK". Why would DWP (presumably) need to be concerned with what I then did with it? As it happens I transfer it to my Thai account via Wise, but, equally, I could use it to offset expenditure on my UK credit or debit card. Would I really be required to account for every last penny of my perpetually frozen State Pension to DWP in considerable detail? That really would be taking Scrooge-economics to a ridiculous level, I think!
August 21, 2025Aug 21 On 8/16/2025 at 7:28 PM, BritManToo said: So many people frightened of their government ............ A government that can't even deliver a proof of life request on time. How many extra staff do they need to trawl through 22M bank accounts? That's 88,000 bank statements to examine every single working day! Proof of Life certificates are sent out at the same time, well, in my are they are,I have seen the same post dates. DWP are not responsible for the post delivery times in other countries.......😉
August 21, 2025Aug 21 25 minutes ago, OJAS said: Can't see the logic here. I get my State Pension paid into "a bank or building society in the UK". Why would DWP (presumably) need to be concerned with what I then did with it? As it happens I transfer it to my Thai account via Wise, but, equally, I could use it to offset expenditure on my UK credit or debit card. Would I really be required to account for every last penny of my perpetually frozen State Pension to DWP in considerable detail? That really would be taking Scrooge-economics to a ridiculous level, I think! In your circumstances (i.e. on a frozen pension) it doesn't really matter. For someone who lives abroad, but pretends to live in the UK to get pension increases it would matter. Paying into a UK bank account, the authorities would be able to see that the money is then transferred offshore suggesting that you weren't living in the UK. If the money were initially paid offshore (Wise/Revolut/offshore bank), the authorities wouldn't know what has happened to the money.
August 21, 2025Aug 21 Just now, Zaphod Priest said: In your circumstances (i.e. on a frozen pension) it doesn't really matter. For someone who lives abroad, but pretends to live in the UK to get pension increases it would matter. Paying into a UK bank account, the authorities would be able to see that the money is then transferred offshore suggesting that you weren't living in the UK. If the money were initially paid offshore (Wise/Revolut/offshore bank), the authorities wouldn't know what has happened to the money. I also think large payments taken from pension account going to another account on a regular basis, year in, year out, and where it goes after that........
August 21, 2025Aug 21 24 minutes ago, transam said: Proof of Life certificates are sent out at the same time, well, in my are they are,I have seen the same post dates. DWP are not responsible for the post delivery times in other countries.......😉 But they chose to post via the EU, cos the post office was too expensive for them.
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