4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You assume that money would be spent on the general population.

 

 

It could be. 

 

Knowing Labour it would probably be spent on funding India's space program or renting back some islands we just gave away. Anything but those poor nasty Brits with their white vans and St. George flags.

 

But it's not just a financial cost, there is a huge cost in terms of citizens safety, eroding of the culture etc. 

4 hours ago, Muhendis said:

I think you missed the point.

It would be difficult to find "indigenous" people of the UK.

For many that would be "true blue anglo saxon" which is definitely not indigenous.

The UK has had many invasions over the past couple of thousand years and integrated many different nationalities.

So what  exactly is meant by indigenous?

"Originating or naturally occuring" doesn't quite fit the bill in my understanding.

 

Why is every country on earth allowed an indigenous population who are encouraged to celebrate and take pride in their history, culture and country apart from northern European nations(who arguably have the richest and hardest fought for cultures in the world)??

Is the left's intentional destruction of European indiginous people/culture an act of genocide? See one poster earlier claiming we don't even exist🤣 It DOES fit the accepted definition of the word. Pure evil IMO. It was all about "protecting minorities" until white Brits became minorities in big cities yet anti Brit discrimination didn't end at that point.

I saw a poll in the i paper recently that said if there was an election today reform would get 400 seats.

 

They asked people how they were likely to vote if there was a general election now.

Reform.  35%

Labour.   20%

Conservative  17%

Lib Dems.  13%

 

Thats not something I would have thought possible a little while back.

 

Labour is only in power now because people wanted the Tory’s out not because they particulaly wanted Labour. The same could just happen again with Reform.

 

It’s no good Labour saying they can’t do something to stop the boats because of some human rights law or something. They are the government they can change the law its what the people want them to do.

 

If they arrested everyone arriving illegally in the boats and deported them the boats would stop almost immediately.

 

If they haven’t stopped the boats by the next election then Reform could quite possibly form the next government.

 

Not something I would particularly welcome but then again perhaps the established institution needs a good kick up the proverbial.

7 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

I saw a poll in the i paper recently that said if there was an election today reform would get 400 seats.

 

They asked people how they were likely to vote if there was a general election now.

Reform.  35%

Labour.   20%

Conservative  17%

Lib Dems.  13%

 

Thats not something I would have thought possible a little while back.

 

Labour is only in power now because people wanted the Tory’s out not because they particulaly wanted Labour. The same could just happen again with Reform.

 

It’s no good Labour saying they can’t do something to stop the boats because of some human rights law or something. They are the government they can change the law its what the people want them to do.

 

If they arrested everyone arriving illegally in the boats and deported them the boats would stop almost immediately.

 

If they haven’t stopped the boats by the next election then Reform could quite possibly form the next government.

 

Not something I would particularly welcome but then again perhaps the established institution needs a good kick up the proverbial.

 

Luckily there won't be a General Election for at least another 3 years.  Plenty of time for the polls to change, especially once people realise what Reform's other policies are.

2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

Luckily there won't be a General Election for at least another 3 years.  Plenty of time for the polls to change, especially once people realise what Reform's other policies are.

If Starmer and the Tory’s got together (not Badenoch she’s toast) and actually came up with something that stopped the boats then Reform would be finished. It’s in Starmer hands.

1 hour ago, BusyB said:

Funny. I thought it was Farage and the Tories who want to trash UK rights by withdrawing from ECHR etc.

UK rights wouldn't be trashed. That's leftie brainwashing.

The UK can have it's own bill of rights which excludes the ridiculous parts of ECHR law that allow rapists and murderers to appeal against deportation, as an example. 

This is why We demand the ECHR needs to be stopped running the UK judictial system.

 

 

Here's another.

 

 

 

A UK politician has stated that the rights of immigrants take precedence over British nationals rights.

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

You must be referring to Cheddar Man.

 

First mullet in human history! 

31 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

A UK politician has stated that the rights of immigrants take precedence over British nationals rights.

Who was this UK politician and what were his/her exact words?

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

You must be referring to Cheddar Man.

 

Cheddar Man was an indigenous Briton from the Mesolithic period (around 10,000 years ago), whose ancient DNA revealed he had dark skin, blue eyes, and dark hair. He was a hunter-gatherer and lived in what is now Somerset, making him the oldest, nearly complete human skeleton found in Britain. His unique combination of features challenged previous assumptions about early European appearance and was a result of his deep ancestry as a hunter-gatherer.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheddar_Man

 

 

 

The indigenous people of Britain, such as Cheddar Man, were failed by their governments who allowed themselves to be conquered and subsequently pandered to the needs of the later illegal immigrants such as the Romans, Vikings, Normans, etc.

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Why is every country on earth allowed an indigenous population who are encouraged to celebrate and take pride in their history, culture and country apart from northern European nations(who arguably have the richest and hardest fought for cultures in the world)??

Is the left's intentional destruction of European indiginous people/culture an act of genocide? See one poster earlier claiming we don't even exist🤣 It DOES fit the accepted definition of the word. Pure evil IMO. It was all about "protecting minorities" until white Brits became minorities in big cities yet anti Brit discrimination didn't end at that point.

Foreigner in Thailand complaining about foreigners in England

Is this what they call irony?

7 hours ago, Muhendis said:

I think you missed the point.

It would be difficult to find "indigenous" people of the UK.

For many that would be "true blue anglo saxon" which is definitely not indigenous.

The UK has had many invasions over the past couple of thousand years and integrated many different nationalities.

So what  exactly is meant by indigenous?

"Originating or naturally occuring" doesn't quite fit the bill in my understanding.

 

 

Indigenous are best defined as those people being the humans and their descendants inhabiting a place that previous to their appearance had no human presence.

 

Thus Maoris were the indigenous population of "New Zealand" because prior to their arrival in the islands, in the 14th century, there were, and had not ever been, any other humans there........aboriginal "Australians" had not ventured across the seas  to what is now New Zealand.

 

The Welsh are the people in the UK who are the nearest descendants of the earliest identifiable cultures (Pre-Roman) of what is now called the British Isles.

 

Romano-Britain was invaded/settled by various tribes who created different Kingdoms in the Island.......the tribes were not "nationalities", the kingdoms were not "nations", 

 

Wessex became pre-eminent and dominant over the other kingdoms

 

The Normans were not a nationality.

 

William sought to rule a kingdom, not a nation.

 

Nationality is a word that was invented in the late 17th century to describe a different state of political/social consciousness to that which preceeded it.

 

Einstein described Nationalism as a childhood disease, I would call it an adolescent phase........humanity is still struggling to leave it behind.

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Red Forever said:

Who was this UK politician and what were his/her exact words?

The video is on the internet on I think, but cant be sure GBNews. When asked if immigrants took precedence over UK citizens he said yes. IF you search for it you will find it.

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

Luckily there won't be a General Election for at least another 3 years.  Plenty of time for the polls to change, especially once people realise what Reform's other policies are.

They have other policies??

The UK is still abiding to the path taken by the European Union in letting anybody in and allowing them to say on. 

 

On considering the mafias in many western EU countries are known to be in league with their mafia counterparts from countries sending their migrants, what can one expect ?

 

Not to forget some very wealthy business tycoon dynasties in the USA having their heirs finance  the ships that pick them at Sea and bring them into European ports. 

 

These miserable and helpless migrants are fully exploited for cheap labour in various areas from restaurants, to agriculture and so on. Others are at the mercy of druglords in Europe who use the migrants as disposable labour for street drug peddling. Migrants have become a micro economy that runs many western european nations.

 

Alowing migrants and illegals to stay on in the West is plainly handing a blank check to humain trafficking from the poor nations. 

 

This is wrong. They need to be assisted of course on arrival with dignity, but immediately sent back to the nearest port of Origin, outside the UE borders.

 

But that would need a minimum of political courage and integrity, that most leaders in Western Europe lack. 

 

So to distract the opinion, nothing better then to fuel anti Russia propaganda and keep up the war in Ukraine. Plainly a diversion. 

17 hours ago, Bannoi said:

Not something I would particularly welcome but then again perhaps the established institution needs a good kick up the proverbial.

 

The 2 party system has clearly failed.

 

When both parties talk tough and then implement weak, limp wristed, left wing policies that destroy the social fabric of the country then it's time for someone else to have a go. 

 

Labour and The Tories have had their chance. Both failed, Labour spectacularly so. 

Lots of comments about asylum seekers blah blah blah.

When will someone have the guts to call it what it is.

A Muslim invasion.

23 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What on earth is ‘a traditional Brit’?

 

 

White!

18 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Is the left's intentional destruction of European indiginous people/culture an act of genocide?

 

In a way, Yes.

 

It is due to self hatred of course. They are loathesome/pathetic and they know it.

 

Where they make their mistake is that they assume that others who share some of their immutable characteristics are equally sad/pathetic. So they project their self hatred onto other indigenous European people. 

 

They dream of destroying the culture via multiculturalism and the ethnicity via breeding. I've seen many of them fantazing about it on this forum, openly rejoicing about how in x number of decades there will be no white people left and everyone will be a mix of white, Asian, black etc. Some include pictures of what this might look like (always AI generated pictures of very attractive individuals). Strangely, they never rejoice that there will no longer be black people or Asian people (that would be Racist!!). 

 

So yes, many do indeed fantasize about the destruction of European culture/people. Many do so openly.

 

Is it a genocide? I would argue yes it is, since genocide does not necessarily have to involve violence and can involve undermining a group's culture, language, religion, economic status, pride in nation, religion etc. thereby destroying the group's social fabric. That seems to fit what is happening in Britain and arguably the rest of Europe very well.  

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

In a way, Yes.

 

It is due to self hatred of course. They are loathesome/pathetic and they know it.

 

Where they make their mistake is that they assume that others who share some of their immutable characteristics are equally sad/pathetic. So they project their self hatred onto other indigenous European people. 

 

They dream of destroying the culture via multiculturalism and the ethnicity via breeding. I've seen many of them fantazing about it on this forum, openly rejoicing about how in x number of decades there will be no white people left and everyone will be a mix of white, Asian, black etc. Some include pictures of what this might look like (always AI generated pictures of very attractive individuals). Strangely, they never rejoice that there will no longer be black people or Asian people (that would be Racist!!). 

 

So yes, many do indeed fantasize about the destruction of European culture/people. Many do so openly.

 

Is it a genocide? I would argue yes it is, since genocide does not necessarily have to involve violence and can involve undermining a group's culture, language, religion, economic status, pride in nation, religion etc. thereby destroying the group's social fabric. That seems to fit what is happening in Britain and arguably the rest of Europe very well.  

Did you have an extra dollop of hyperbole on your morning toast? Even for you that was impressive.

On 9/1/2025 at 1:30 PM, brewsterbudgen said:

You must be referring to Cheddar Man.

 

Cheddar Man was an indigenous Briton from the Mesolithic period (around 10,000 years ago), whose ancient DNA revealed he had dark skin, blue eyes, and dark hair. He was a hunter-gatherer and lived in what is now Somerset, making him the oldest, nearly complete human skeleton found in Britain. His unique combination of features challenged previous assumptions about early European appearance and was a result of his deep ancestry as a hunter-gatherer.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheddar_Man

 

 

 

Looks more like one of dem hoes hanging around between soi 3 and soi 15 early on a Sunday morning. 

 

Highly unlikely it's from Somerset, old chum. 

On 9/2/2025 at 7:50 AM, JonnyF said:

 

The 2 party system has clearly failed.

 

When both parties talk tough and then implement weak, limp wristed, left wing policies that destroy the social fabric of the country then it's time for someone else to have a go. 

 

Labour and The Tories have had their chance. Both failed, Labour spectacularly so. 

What on earth are you talking about Jonny?

 

The UK does not have a ‘ 2 party system’ .

 

UK general elections are ‘first past the post’ and there are hundreds of political parties:

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_Kingdom

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What on earth are you talking about Jonny?

 

The UK does not have a ‘ 2 party system’ .

 

UK general elections are ‘first past the post’ and there are hundreds of political parties:

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_Kingdom

 

Perhaps you don't know what a 2 party system is.

 

 

When was the last time Labour or The Conservatives were not in power Chomps? I'll give you a clue, it was over 100 years ago. 

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

Perhaps you don't know what a 2 party system is.

 

 

When was the last time Labour or The Conservatives were not in power Chomps? I'll give you a clue, it was over 100 years ago. 

 

The Tory-Lib Dem coalition in 2010.  Happy to help.

19 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Perhaps you don't know what a 2 party system is.

 

 

When was the last time Labour or The Conservatives were not in power Chomps? I'll give you a clue, it was over 100 years ago. 

 I know precisely what a two party system is.

 

You clearly don’t, or maybe it’s not you who keeps banging on about Reform UK winning the next election…. 
 

But then of course, perhaps you just can’t count past 2?!

 

 

A post making accusations against another member removed. @JonnyF

 

Discuss the topic and not other posters.

25 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

The Tory-Lib Dem coalition in 2010.  Happy to help.

 

Tory led government. 

 

306 - 57.

 

Nice try though.

 

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 I know precisely what a two party system is.

 

You clearly don’t, or maybe it’s not you who keeps banging on about Reform UK winning the next election…. 
 

But then of course, perhaps you just can’t count past 2?!

 

 

 

I know what it is and I know people are tired of it.

 

Hence Reform will be the next government.