43 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

Many members say that it takes Bangkok Bank one week to produce a 12 month statement.

 

I requested, and paid 200 baht, a 12 month statement at my BBL branch on Tuesday, September 2, 2025 at 09:00.

 

It was supposed to be ready today, 10:00 or later. I went to the bank ~ 11:30, "No have, come back tomorrow".

 

I completed my extension at CW Imm last Friday, without the statement. But I'd like to see what it looks like, so I'll swing by tomorrow.

 

I'd bake in a minimum of eight calendar days, more if there are holidays.

 

 

32 minutes ago, Mason45 said:

Are you telling me that there's no agents in Bangkok who provide the same service as the agents in Pattaya, surely there is.

Of course there is. 

Current threads (2) running re agents in Bangkok. 

In particular Thai Visa Centre 

There is no indication from OP that father was using agent to sidestep the financial requirements. 

I'm still confused though it sounds like there maybe a sort of confirmation that the legacy of using a lawyer before may have mucked up something that does indeed block the lawyers from using the income method this time. I don't know what exactly. Address related? Where the stamps came from? Don't know.

I agree an option is to try to do it himself but if his legacy is mucked up somehow by the lawyer, it seems to me that it might also be mucked up even though as clearly indicated he does have good evidence of all the needed 65k transfers. But that's not the entire application. Everything needs to comply for a do it yourself attempt.

OR I guess if desperate go with the lawyers suggestion to do a "special process" for an 800K application even though he is definitely too late for that without such a scheme.

This is another example I suppose of the wisdom of doing the extensions yourself and that using agents is not risk free in the long term.

Best of luck.

 

Removed an off-topic post about "BKK in CM".

16 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

800K (Korat) currently only requires a 2-month statement.

 

If 12-months required for proof of income, simply order that a week ahead of time.

I wonder whether IO would accept two six-month statements.

Just now, KannikaP said:

I wonder whether IO would accept two six-month statements.

Yes, they will. 

 

9 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Yes, they will. 

 

I was worried that the first one will be well over the 7 days I read they are valid for. But, hey, I shall give it a try in December. I already have 1st Dec to 30th November, ext due on 7th Dec 25. It is a Bkk Bank account solely for my monthly transfers, plus my Deposit account of course. Thanks

This thread has been doing my head in. Have read it over few times. 

Here is my guess on what's the go. 

Maybe @VanillaK can clarify. 

At some point the "lawyer aka Agent"

did the extensions using money in bank method (800k) 

Obviously without the ongoing financial requirements. 

 

This time the OP and father think they can switch to income method as they have made 12+ deposits of 65k + from abroad. 

Not possible. Immigration will want to see financial compliance retrospectively. 

Bottom line. Father needs to use agent. 

Better get a move on. 

BTW : If what I had a guess on is the case I wouldn't trott off to immigration for a window shopping. 

 

13 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

I was worried that the first one will be well over the 7 days I read they are valid for

Personally I would order the statement say 5+ days prior to application and present one 12 month statement along with the bank letter. 

Update bankbook on the day of application. 

When I deal with immigration the saying "never give a mug an even break" comes to mind

 

Edit: you could even do both. 

Try with the two 6 month statements and if refused (you won't be) then you can bring out the 12 month statement and hence know with certainly plan for future extensions

On 9/8/2025 at 1:48 PM, VanillaK said:

Kasikorn Bank, which does show the inbound transfers as being foreign (when using Thai language for bank statements). 

That is cool information becasue in English the Kasikorn statement says "Trade Finance" not "FTT".

The stement in Thai says "ธุรกรรมต่างประเทศ" which translates "foreign transaction"

 

I renewed last month using 800k method with bank statement from Kasikorn.

But it was there for 14 months, never below 800k.

 

I was worried that if this year I go under 800k and have to top off 2 months before renewal, that Immigration would want to know where the top off money came from. 

I've heard conficting things, abut topping-off.

Some say immigration will want to see the top-off money came from outside Thaialnd.

Others have said CW Immigration doesn't care, as long as it's 800k two months before renewal and never went bellow 400k, te money could have come form anywhere. 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Khun Roberto said:

Some say immigration will want to see the top-off money came from outside Thaialnd.

For extensions using money in bank method there is no need to show where funds came from. 

For extensions using income method (retirement) then yes monthly transfers need to be show from abroad. 

Dr. Jack has pointed out (correctly of course) that there is no need to show where funds came from (for extensions using money-in-the-bank method).

 

Another related point is that there is no need to show how you spend the 800K baht during the year, although there have been some reports in the distant past of rogue Immo officers (Prachinburi?) who have asked applicants about this.  

 

It is nonsense.  The purpose of the 800k in a Thai bank is to show (1) Financial where with all; and (2) That you have a significant sum to tap into if there are outstanding hospital or legal fees. 

 

That's the same as the 65K-baht-a-month approach.  They don't (shouldn't) care how you spend it; just that you are financially in good standing, and can cover unanticipated large expenses. 

8 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

This thread has been doing my head in. Have read it over few times. 

Here is my guess on what's the go. 

Maybe @VanillaK can clarify. 

At some point the "lawyer aka Agent"

did the extensions using money in bank method (800k) 

Obviously without the ongoing financial requirements. 

 

This time the OP and father think they can switch to income method as they have made 12+ deposits of 65k + from abroad. 

Not possible. Immigration will want to see financial compliance retrospectively. 

Bottom line. Father needs to use agent. 

Better get a move on. 

BTW : If what I had a guess on is the case I wouldn't trott off to immigration for a window shopping. 

 

I agree that the above is a reasonable guess and I also concur that stopping by immigration to tell all and ask what to do now may very well be dangerous.

The safe approach (and possibly the only approach) in that case would indeed be to continue the dependency on the agent. Which is not uncommon from my understand.

Which begs the question, would there be any other way to EVER shake that agent monkey on his back other than starting all over with a new O visa?

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Which begs the question, would there be any other way to EVER shake that agent monkey on his back other than starting all over with a new O visa?

The safest and perhaps in most situations to cut from agent to doing it yourself is to exit prior to expiry of current permission of stay without reentry permit. 

Then enter Thailand and obtain new Non O and subsequent annual extensions. 

In summary "start over" 

Exactly the same as all the folk on Non O-A killed off that to obtain Non O

2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

The safest and perhaps in most situations to cut from agent to doing it yourself is to exit prior to expiry of current permission of stay without reentry permit. 

Then enter Thailand and obtain new Non O and subsequent annual extensions. 

In summary "start over" 

Exactly the same as all the folk on Non O-A killed off that to obtain Non O

As I thought.

This is a side question but something I've wondered about. 

For people who did start with an O-A, can use of an agent "erase" the health insurance requirement?

Doesn't seem logical that it could, but they do perform "magic" for a fee in other regards.

1 hour ago, TaoNow said:

Dr. Jack has pointed out (correctly of course) that there is no need to show where funds came from (for extensions using money-in-the-bank method).

 

Another related point is that there is no need to show how you spend the 800K baht during the year, although there have been some reports in the distant past of rogue Immo officers (Prachinburi?) who have asked applicants about this.  

 

It is nonsense.  The purpose of the 800k in a Thai bank is to show (1) Financial where with all; and (2) That you have a significant sum to tap into if there are outstanding hospital or legal fees. 

 

That's the same as the 65K-baht-a-month approach.  They don't (shouldn't) care how you spend it; just that you are financially in good standing, and can cover unanticipated large expenses. 

But if one dipped into the 800,000 prematurely due to a medical emergency, or indeed at anytime and it caused the balance to drop below 400,000 even temporarily,  the extension would not be granted the following year  So its use as an emergency fund is somewhat limited

15 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

So its use as an emergency fund is somewhat limited

Indeed the whole concept that the 800k is some sort of emergency fund is a complete joke. 

 

More accurate term than "emergency fund" Would be 'blackmail fund" = keep your hard earned in a Thai bank with minimal interest rates in order to obtain your extensions. 

Highway robbery springs to mind. 

18 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

But if one dipped into the 800,000 prematurely due to a medical emergency, or indeed at anytime and it caused the balance to drop below 400,000 even temporarily,  the extension would not be granted the following year  So its use as an emergency fund is somewhat limited

That's different though. Then you're going below 400k. Breaking the rules. 

 

But what if you dip into the 800K, let's say you take out 300k three months after te renewal, and put it back two months before you the next renewal. 

Where did that 300k replacement come from? 

Dr Jack says they won't ask, and I'm inclined to beleive him since, in my experience he's always been right.

But others say Immigration will want to know the source, and that does actually make sense. 

 

 

10 minutes ago, Khun Roberto said:

But others say Immigration will want to know the source, and that does actually make sense. 

Can follow the logic however it's not the case. 

 

If someone obtains a Non O retirement in Thailand from example a visa exempt entry then it's a requirement to show these funds came from abroad. 

Note that's for the Non O application. 

 

For application for extensions there is no requirement to show those funds came from abroad. 

 

The one exception to obtaining the Non O in Thailand and having to show funds from abroad can occur if the funds in Thai bank account have been in the account "for some time" 

That would be months not weeks 

8 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Can follow the logic however it's not the case. 

 

If someone obtains a Non O retirement in Thailand from example a visa exempt entry then it's a requirement to show these funds came from abroad. 

Note that's for the Non O application. 

 

For application for extensions there is no requirement to show those funds came from abroad. 

 

The one exception to obtaining the Non O in Thailand and having to show funds from abroad can occur if the funds in Thai bank account have been in the account "for some time" 

That would be months not weeks 

What Dr, Jack says kinda fits my experience.

When I originally got the NonO, I did it with Embassy affidavit letter. Continued that way for years.

Then the embassy stopped, but luckily I had been planning ahead, and had the 800k seasoned for 14 months, Cover my bases, in case they didn't like the sudden change when it was only 2 months old, (not incidentally on Dr Jack's advice from 18 months ago.)

 

So, last month I re-newed my non O but changed to the 800k deposit method from the affidavit method.

The Immigraion Officer commented that I was changing the system, my heart sank as she fussed around, typing away and checking her computer.

But she didn't ask for the source. and stamped the papers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Confused!  You noted 65,000 isn't a option!  From your responses it seems this is the method he was using with Wise, but lawyer says it isn't possible now. 

 

Then you mention the 800,000 baht does your dad have that amount in his account now?

 

Maybe it is the way you are explaining it to lawyers! Also I not seen posting as to what office your dad is using Lawyer/agent in past for his renewal 65,000 per month to Kasikorn seem legal but due to age don't want to trouble himself?

 

In my opinion the Bangkok Bank issue which has affected other banks is only accounts held by tourist not affected to you dad since he already has a stamp for years. These bank accounts are people who don't have 800,000 nor doing the 65,000 per month!  They go to lawyers/agents client need to have bank phone app the service then transfer 800,000 into client accounts obtain the letter from bank thereafter transfer it back out thereafter they submit paperwork and obtain the yearly stamp for a fee.

 

With what BB was doing opening accounts for Chinese National on tourist visa  was illegal in Pattaya they now are using Krungthai, many that had BB accounts money were taken to Bangkok to obtain their stamps?

 

That be said what you are saying your dad was doing it legally, I would go to bank and obtain the 12 month statement and necessary paperwork and submit the application yourself. If you are in Pattaya don't want to deal with IO, go to Soi Post office I think Soi 13/2 across from post office is a office that can hear your situation take your paperwork bank statement and process your application for a fee less than 10,000, higher fee is for those not having 800,000 or 65,000 per month.

 

In July, for a friend who like your dad already had a extension and bank account at Krungthai, but his account was empty, so based on office advice we opened a new account at BB, this was before BB got busted l, to basically using agent to pop money in and out, but the <deleted> hit the fan. I was able to top off his new BB account 800,000 on the 4th, not long enough to season the bank said they would issue the letter only if we agree not to touch the 800,000 for the next 4 months , no problem took bank letter to office paid agent fee to process 2 days later stamp.

They can also do TM-30, registration 500 baht, 90 days 100 baht.

Good luck to you and dad!

On 9/8/2025 at 1:18 PM, VanillaK said:

So, I'm confused by something that my dad's attorney said regarding that: (1) the 65,000 baht per month pathway isn't available, so my dad would need to do the 800,000 deposit pathway; and (2) Kasikorn Bank can't be used (now, only Siam Commercial Bank, Krunthai Bank, and another bank can be used). The attorney said that this was inside info gotten from the immigration official.

 

I also contacted another law firm because I wanted to check if that was the case (that my dad hasn't used before) and they said the same thing (except the latter bank issue).

 

I already gathered all the necessary documents for my dad's non-immigrant retirement visa renewal that's upcoming, including the official bank letter and bank statements showing the monthly 65,000 baht deposit from abroad to Kasikorn Bank.

 

Is what my dad's attorney said really true? Or are they just saying that so that they can increase their service price by making the visa renewal process seem complicated? To note, my dad's nationality is American and he's had this non-immigrant retirement visa for many years already.

 

If more info is needed for the description, please ask.

Only addressing as an American retired in Chiang Mai. I continue to use the 65K monthly income method. Monthly wire transfer from my USA bank directly to my Bangkok Bank Account here.

20 minutes ago, Wrwest said:

Only addressing as an American retired in Chiang Mai. I continue to use the 65K monthly income method. Monthly wire transfer from my USA bank directly to my Bangkok Bank Account here.

And that should work zero issues. 

 

The OP you quoted is vague at best. 

Putting together other posts such as use of agent the best guess is that his agent has been doing money in bank method without the 800k

As a result father cannot just flip to income method. 

In any even no contributions from OP so thread pretty much done. 

On 9/8/2025 at 8:48 AM, VanillaK said:

My dad receives retirement benefits from the USA, which are deposited to his Wise account. From Wise, we transfer money to Kasikorn Bank, which does show the inbound transfers as being foreign (when using Thai language for bank statements). Based on info on the official Bangkok Immigration website, there's 3 pathways for proving finances—(1) deposit 800K, (2) do at least 65K month foreign desposits, and (3) pathway 1 & 2 combined.

 

Also, yes, my dad has used the services of this attorney for a long time, although initially he did do the renewals himself but switched to the attorney because he got older and didn't want to deal with immigration.

 

With that said, since my dad's renewal date is upcoming this month, we would have to go through the "special" pathway. But still, I really wonder why this 65K monthly deposit is an issue. Should we try doing it ourselves first? And, if our own attempt doesn't work, use the attorney's service?

Proof of foreign transfer of not less than 65k baht a month is still available, which you have proof for with the bank letter and -statement, showing "foreign transfer" during the previous 12 months.

 

The lawyer might be mixing it up with the former method of using an affidavit from one's embassy in Thailand, numerous countries does not issue such an affidavit anymore.

On same 800k subject

My local  Bank  closed with no warning, no sign no email just boarded up.

So I moved to the nearest SCB and will have had 800k+ in for 3 months on day I apply for my  extension. 

 

Can anyone explain in Thai or English what the bank letters must say

It is a deposit account with a book that is only ever used for extensions, never any withdrawals and I leave the interest in and add a little each visit to show some transactions.

 

Is it needed to make a transaction on extension day?

Any advice most welcome from those using this method esp at SCB,

I think I am the only foreign customer at a small rural branch and none of the staff speak Englsh and these matters are beyoind my level of spoken thai.

33 minutes ago, RubbaJohnny said:

So I moved to the nearest SCB and will have had 800k+ in for 3 months on day I apply for my  extension. 

So this is your first extension? 

Which immigration office. 

Regards banks you need 

1. Bank letter. This shows you as sole owner of the account and balance on day of application. 100b 

2. Bank statement. 12 month statement for ongoing extensions or 3 month if first extension. 200b 

Can be obtained days prior to application. 

BTW: 800k seasoned for 2 months not 3.

Still order bank statement if 

 

It's best to make deposit on day of application as this updates bb and shows activity. I deposit 100b 

 

Example of bank letter for BBL attached

 

Thanks Jack

On 9/15/2025 at 12:35 PM, DrJack54 said:

BTW: 800k seasoned for 2 months not 3.

Local office says 3 months

 

Can you point me to an official source or the law where it says 2 months in Thai or English please.

14 minutes ago, RubbaJohnny said:

Local office says 3 months

 

Can you point me to an official source or the law where it says 2 months in Thai or English please.

2 months before

3 months after

At least 400K baht the rest of the year

 

THE WORDING OF THE LAW:

(1) Must have been granted a non-immigrant visa (Non-Im)

(2) Must be 50 years of age or over

(3) Must have evidence of having income of no less than THB 65,000 or;

(4) At least 2 months prior to filing date, and at least 3 months after being granted permission, the alien must have fund deposited in a bank in Thailand of no less than THB 800,000. The alien can withdraw the fund 3 months after being granted permission and the remaining balance must be no less than THB 400,00 or;

3 hours ago, RubbaJohnny said:

Local office says 3 months

 

Can you point me to an official source or the law where it says 2 months in Thai or English please.

Unfortunately, where the written law is, is not relevant.  If the local office says 3 months, then it's 3 months.  They're a law unto themselves.  I have heard some offices do have that requirement, even though they should not.  Almost impossible to argue any matter with them.