8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Your unhinged negative bias betrays a lack of balance unbecoming of intelligent discourse.

 

Equating Charlie Kirk with a Nazi is historically and logically inaccurate. Nazis were totalitarian, genocidal, anti-democratic, and anti-capitalist. Kirk operates entirely within a democratic framework, champions free speech, and works through debate and public engagement.

 

Yes, he emphased nationalism and sometimes talked about demographic change, but that is rhetorical and political, not genocidal. Criticism of his views should be focusing on the content and consequences of his arguments today - not on hyperbolic historical comparisons that lack critical though and only seek to point score with a cheap-shot.

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I didn't say he was literally a Nazi while alive.

I said IF someone with his ideology was alive in Germany during the Nazi era, there is no doubt whatsoever that he'd be a Nazi.

DUH. 

 

... and I countered that with a clear explanation highlighting how the underlying ideologies are vastly different.

 

 

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

I thought he meant GOVERNOR Shapiro.

 

Why would he be friends that POC? 

44 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The white nationalist racism.

The ideology of white American culture being the superior one and that it should be dominant.

 

This is a complete lie, a pure fabrication. Charlie regularly referenced asian americans success and how they they impacted the most by DEI/affirmative action.

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

"The Jews" and the right wing government of Israel sadly led by a war criminal are not the same thing, buddy. 

I disagree. He has been democratically elected and mostly been in office since just after Rabin the good was assasinated.

The majority of Israeli people like his policies.

Just now, dannyb123 said:

 

This is a complete lie, a pure fabrication. Charlie regularly referenced asian americans success and how they they impacted the most by DEI/affirmative action.

If you knew anything about the history of racism in American, over time certain ethnic groups "progress" become included as honorary whites. Such as Irish. Italians, etc.  It's a challenge trying to talk with people who lack basic knowledge.

Just now, Jingthing said:

If you knew anything about the history of racism in American, over time certain ethnic groups "progress" become included as honorary whites. Such as Irish. Italians, etc.  It's a challenge trying to talk with people who lack basic knowledge.

By basic knowledge, you mean leftist indoctrination, yes? 

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I thought he meant GOVERNOR Shapiro.

 

 

Ah... they may not have collaborated so well together (with Governor Josh Shapiro)...

2 minutes ago, JimCM said:

I disagree. He has been democratically elected and mostly been in office since just after Rabin the good was assasinated.

The majority of Israeli people like his policies.

Most Israeli Jews do support him. Most American Jews have big problems with him. 

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Just now, Jingthing said:

Most Israeli Jews do support him. Most American Jews have big problems with him. 

And this is based on what? 

 

And I think you mean most secular American Jews. 

Worth a watch.

 

 

Just now, Yellowtail said:

And this is based on what? 

 

And I think you mean most secular American Jews. 

Most American Jews are secular and of course the vast majority support the DEMOCRATIC party and are anti-Trump.

Yes he was a terrible personL  

 

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

By basic knowledge, you mean leftist indoctrination, yes? 

I mean historical FACTS.

I get it though. The maga world is a post truth, post facts world.

Very dark and dangerous times indeed. 

2 hours ago, bubblegum said:

Hmm, no free speech here either I see.

You were able to post the above OK weren't you?

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Worth a watch.

 

 

 

 

I've seen this plenty of times before - I think its an excellent piece of debate.

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Worth a watch.

 

 

I watched the first four minutes. Where is it going? 

2 hours ago, DezLez said:

4 hours ago, dinsdale said:

What a totally ignorant thread. Pitiful. Why is it you didn't mention he was ASSASSINATED by a leftist idelogically radicalised trans/furry loving killer.

I did not know that anyone had been found guilty of his death ye

You're right, not guilty yet from a jury but it is known that he is the killer, something that he has not denied and that his close family has confirmed.

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

I've seen this plenty of times before - I think its an excellent piece of debate.

Indeed and it's interesting to see how dated it is already.

Most of the maga Trumpist rhetoric from Kirk already proven as complete horse sheit.

18 minutes ago, candide said:

Who is "they"? 🙂

Fake news consumers aka laptop deniers. Ring any bells?

1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Fake news consumers aka laptop deniers. Ring any bells?

Taking about yourself again I see!

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Most American Jews are secular and of course the vast majority support the DEMOCRATIC party and are anti-Trump.

The Democrat Party. 

 

There does seem to be fewer supporting the Democrats than there were a year ago though, yes? 

 

Have you seen the DNC funding debacle? 

2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Fake news consumers aka laptop deniers. Ring any bells?

Making stuff up, as usual....🤣

1 minute ago, DezLez said:

Taking about yourself again I see!

You repeat the same lines.

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

You're right, not guilty yet from a jury but it is known that he is the killer, something that he has not denied and that his close family has confirmed.

You're right, not guilty yet from a jury but it is known  assumed that he is the killer, something that he has not denied or formally admitted and that his close family has confirmed.

Just now, Jingthing said:

Indeed and it's interesting to see how dated it is already.

Most of the maga Trumpist rhetoric from Kirk already proven as complete horse sheit.

 

No its not - its " believed" to be complete 'horse sheit' by anti-Trumpers because they would never accept anything else due their anti-Trump fanaticism. 

 

We'd have to go down the rabbit-hole and dissect and fact check the whole dialogue / debate - and that takes way too long when people are going to flatly reject the conclusions that might conflict with their political aliegencies.

 

I'm not here to change politcal minds I'm just here to counter the obvious bias on display.

 

 

 

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

The Democrat Party. 

 

There does seem to be fewer supporting the Democrats than there were a year ago though, yes? 

 

Have you seen the DNC funding debacle? 

Maga pipe dream.

Democratic.

Are you from the republic party?

Or perhaps an independ?

 

Democratic strategist ‘absolutely’ worried Trump ‘going to unleash the Justice Department on’ Democratic Party

www.thehill.com/homenews/administration/5506546-democratic-party-extremist-concerns/

8 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

You repeat the same lines.

Actually it was only one line!

Please learn to count!

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Maga pipe dream.

"Republican Party has nearly five times more cash on hand than the Democrats" 

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/21/rnc-dnc-ken-martin-trump.html

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

What is hateful about MAGA ideology?

95%! and 100% of it's braindead washed zombie followers!