24 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Exactly.... a military and scientific silicon valley whose robust foreign policy and strong military is bringing the forces of barbarism to heel.

I assume you are discussing China as it most certainly is not the USA any more with that idiot in charge!

HOPEFULLY THEY WILL ONE DAY. BEST TODAY ALREADY

8 minutes ago, DezLez said:

I assume you are discussing China as it most certainly is not the USA any more with that idiot in charge!

Got it. You see the USA as a force of barbarism. Another China shill.

Just now, Yagoda said:

Got it. You see the USA as a force of barbarism.

With Trump in charge that is a definite YES, especially how he acts and behaves towards  all his NON MAGA supporters and opponents!

1 minute ago, DezLez said:

With Trump in charge that is a definite YES, especially how he acts and behaves towards  all his NON MAGA supporters and opponents!

Got it. You are an enemy of the USA. Your reasons are immaterial.

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Got it. You are an enemy of the USA. Your reasons are immaterial.

 

Yeah he's a hater.

 

Come on, ask him the question, does he think men can be women

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Got it. You are an enemy of the USA. Your reasons are immaterial.

WRONG!!!!

I am NOT against the USA I used to know and love.

I am totally against TRUMP and what he is doing to the rest of the world.

You are welcome to what he does to your once fine country as you have swallowed his MAGA bible hook line and sinker.

5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Got it. You are an enemy of the USA. Your reasons are immaterial.

That has to be the most illogical statement posted on AN!

Please replace "USA" in your post with any subject and reread and analyse the result.

I will give you an example;

 

"Got it. You are an enemy of the poster on AN called Yagoda! USA. Your reasons are immaterial."

I would suggest that my, or anyone else's reasons would be very material!

6 minutes ago, DezLez said:

That has to be the most illogical statement posted on AN!

Please replace "USA" in your post with any subject and reread and analyse the result.

I will give you an example;

 

"Got it. You are an enemy of the poster on AN called Yagoda! USA. Your reasons are immaterial."

I would suggest that my, or anyone else's reasons would be very material!

Got it. You are filled with hate and rage at anyone who has common sense and loves his country...amd is winning...LOL

 

17 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Come on, ask him the question, does he think men can be women

Good question. Do you?

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Good question. Do you?

 

I have one for you.

Do you think that American nationalists, who love their country so much, move to live most of the year in a Third World country, and then call everyone who doesn't agree with their flawed arguments a hater of the US?

8 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

I have one for you.

Do you think that American nationalists, who love their country so much, move to live most of the year in a Third World country, and then call everyone who doesn't agree with their flawed arguments a hater of the US?

Who are you referring to?

 

Instead of answering the question you raised LOL.

On 9/25/2025 at 12:07 PM, KhunLA said:

The world would be a better, safer place 

Yeah, this is exactly what will happen when all the jihadists of the world will celebrate their victory over the West. Absolute peace!

On 9/25/2025 at 1:14 AM, billd766 said:

What would happen if Israel lost America’s support?

 

Millions of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank would be a lot happier and safer, As would many of the people in the Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Yemen and the other places that the IDF.

 

The other good news is that Netanyahu and ALL his Zionist criminal war cabinet would fall also.

 

Perhaps it may even trigger a new and more reasonable government in the USA.

 

That sounds like a good idea to me.

Nah....Palestinians are too stupid to live in peace with anyone. 

Dream on, Israel won't lose the support of the US... but it might be reeled in a bit if it goes too wild/crazy. 

1 minute ago, Hellfire said:

Yeah, this is exactly what will happen when all the jihadists of the world will celebrate their victory over the West. Absolute peace!

Then they can just kill each other, and it won't cost the US Tax Payer anything.

 

Israel to the USA is like buying a boat.  Nothing but a hole in the water you keep throwing money in, as it goes down in value 😎

 

Only 1 solution to the Israeli middle east issue ... ALL THE JEWS GO TO USA or elsewhere.  There's only about 10M.

It would be wiped off the face of the Earth. 

32 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Got it. You are filled with hate and rage at anyone who has common sense and loves his country...amd is winning...LOL

 

So as usual you are totally incapable of responding directly to a post but have to trot out your usual pointless ungrammatical crap!

51 minutes ago, DezLez said:

WRONG!!!!

I am NOT against the USA I used to know and love.

I am totally against TRUMP and what he is doing to the rest of the world.

You are welcome to what he does to your once fine country as you have swallowed his MAGA bible hook line and sinker.

You mean Steven Miller's bible ? Trump was never in charge of anything.

9 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Then they can just kill each other, and it won't cost the US Tax Payer anything.

 

Israel to the USA is like buying a boat.  Nothing but a hole in the water you keep throwing money in, as it goes down in value 😎

 

Only 1 solution to the Israeli middle east issue ... ALL THE JEWS GO TO USA or elsewhere.  There's only about 10M.

Yes, as they did on 11.09, for example. Each other only! Zero expenses for the US taxpayers! 

11 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

Dream on, Israel won't lose the support of the US... but it might be reeled in a bit if it goes too wild/crazy. 

How do you know that?

President TACO could do one any day as he has with now ex allies!

6 minutes ago, Mitkof Island said:

You mean Steven Miller's bible ? Trump was never in charge of anything.

No!

I thought TRUMP was supposed to be in charge of EVERYTHING in the USA!

The world is already global. Like it

or not. Radical Islam is a threat for the whole mankind, not just for Israel. Israel today is only one of the reasons why this cult’s believers hate the West. There are many other.  Betraying Israel will not solve the problem with the 7-century savages. The problem is much deeper, like it or not.

24 minutes ago, Mitkof Island said:

It would be wiped off the face of the Earth. 

 

I think so too. Their 2 billion Muslim neighbours will never forgive the massacres in Gaza, nuclear weapons or not.

 

That's why the US will maintain its support.

 

But they could reduce it and make this aid conditional on a certain code of ethics.

Just now, Toc-Toc said:

I think so too. Their 2 billion Muslim neighbours will never forgive the massacres in Gaza, nuclear weapons or not.

 

That's why the US will maintain its support.

 

But they could reduce it and make this aid conditional on a certain code of ethics.

 

 

Agreed - but also for other reasons US support must remain... 

 

If Washington ever withdrew its support for Israel, the entire Middle East could begin to come apart at the seams. For better or worse, the U.S. - Israeli alliance has been the anchor that keeps a volatile region from drifting into chaos. Take that away, and I don't think we get peace - we get a scramble for dominance, driven by ideology, sectarianism, and opportunism.

 

Israel’s deterrent power doesn’t rest solely on its military might; it rests on the certainty that the United States will stand behind it. Remove that certainty, and Israel’s enemies - both real and imagined - will sense weakness.

 

The first to move would be Iran and its Shi’a network of proxies: Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen, and militias scattered across Iraq and Syria. Tehran would trumpet Israel’s isolation as proof of divine justice and Western decline. Its influence would surge, arms would flow freely to Gaza, and Hamas and Islamic Jihad would be emboldened to press their advantage.

 

The Sunni world would react unevenly. Turkey and Qatar - both sympathetic to Hamas and politically Islamist - would seize the moment, casting themselves as champions of a “new Palestine”... President Erdoğan would use it to cement Turkey’s leadership of the Muslim world, while Qatar would leverage its wealth to buy influence.

 

But the real danger lies with the so-called “moderate” Arab states - Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, and the UAE - who have quietly depended on Israel’s strength and America’s umbrella to contain Iran and Islamist radicalism.

 

If Israel falters, these regimes will face an existential dilemma. Their streets will erupt in celebration of Palestine’s “victory”, but their governments will panic at the thought of Hamas-style movements gaining momentum at home.

 

Egypt, already struggling with economic decay and extremism in Sinai, could be destabilised.

Jordan, with half its population of Palestinian origin, would be under severe strain.

Even Saudi Arabia’s cautious modernisation project could be undermined by Islamist revivalism feeding off Israel’s retreat.

 

In short, an American withdrawal wouldn’t bring justice or equilibrium - it would trigger a regional free-for-all.

 

Iran and Turkey would compete for ideological leadership; Hamas and Hezbollah would claim vindication; and secular Arab governments would scramble to survive.

 

Israel, meanwhile, would still stand - but far more isolated, forced to rely on its own nuclear deterrent and technological edge while surrounded by rivals newly convinced it can bleed.

 

The uncomfortable truth is that Israel’s strength has kept much of the Middle East from imploding. It has forced pragmatism where passion would otherwise rule. If that balance disappears, the region won’t move toward peace - it will slide back into a medieval mix of revenge, sectarian rivalry, and opportunistic power grabs.

 

The winners would be Iran, Turkey, and every extremist faction waiting in the shadows.

The losers would be Israel, the secular Arab regimes, and the fragile stability that still keeps the lights on from Cairo to Riyadh.

 

In short, most of its two billion neighbours are now quietly happy with the way things are, after witnessing what unrestrained chaos really looks like - the rise of ISIS, the bloodletting of Hezbollah and Iran’s militias, the civil wars that tore apart Syria, Libya, and Yemen, and the fanatical barbarism that consumed whole societies in the name of purity and faith.

Whatever their public posturing, most regional leaders have seen enough of “revolution” to know that Israel’s strength, however inconvenient, still anchors the balance that keeps the Middle East from imploding.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Toc-Toc said:

 

I think so too. Their 2 billion Muslim neighbours will never forgive the massacres in Gaza, nuclear weapons or not.

 

That's why the US will maintain its support.

 

But they could reduce it and make this aid conditional on a certain code of ethics.

This is a deeply stupid view on the problem. Child’s view, if you wish.

1 hour ago, Toc-Toc said:

 

I think so too. Their 2 billion Muslim neighbours will never forgive the massacres in Gaza, nuclear weapons or not.

 

    Hamas and the like are not too popular cross Muslim Countries .

Many Muslims across the Middle East will be pleased to see the elimination of the extremist terror group Hamas .

   Have you noticed there's no flotilla boats leaving from Arab Muslim Countries ?

20 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Hahahahaha, that's pretty harmless though.

 

Well  perhaps not

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/23/technology/larry-ellison-oracle-tiktok.html

 

Larry Ellison, a Media Mogul Like No Other

The database billionaire and his son, David, are Trump favorites. The family could soon control an empire that includes CBS, Paramount, Warner, CNN and a piece of TikTok.

3 hours ago, johng said:

 

Well  perhaps not

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/23/technology/larry-ellison-oracle-tiktok.html

 

Larry Ellison, a Media Mogul Like No Other

The database billionaire and his son, David, are Trump favorites. The family could soon control an empire that includes CBS, Paramount, Warner, CNN and a piece of TikTok.

 

Great article. I do not see any dangers about Ellison part owning Tik Tok. This whole notion that TikTok was dangerous was always a bit overblown surely.