From my old home town's local newspaper:-

 

"AN EGREMONT mum has failed to overturn the death sentence handed to her pet Rottweiler dog after it attacked a passer-by.

Single mum Jayne McKone, 42, pursued an appeal at Carlisle Crown Court, saying she had improved security at her home to prevent her three-year-old dog Nora escaping."................................

 

Thailand take note - the easiest way to solve the "soi dogs", and wild packs problem!

3 hours ago, sambum said:

Thailand take note - the easiest way to solve the "soi dogs", and wild packs problem!

What about this way? 

 

 

 

 

I walk with my 7 iron.  If they attack, take a big swing.

4 hours ago, sambum said:

From my old home town's local newspaper:-

 

"AN EGREMONT mum has failed to overturn the death sentence handed to her pet Rottweiler dog after it attacked a passer-by.

Single mum Jayne McKone, 42, pursued an appeal at Carlisle Crown Court, saying she had improved security at her home to prevent her three-year-old dog Nora escaping."................................

 

Thailand take note - the easiest way to solve the "soi dogs", and wild packs problem!

The easiest way is having the people who live here actually care for dogs after they grow from puppy stage. Spaying or neutering, feeding, making sure they have rabies shots and medicine for diseases, etc. Also having the government pay for a stepped up spay/neuter program. This way some scum won't have to take to poisoning to control the amount of strays running loose, along with pets running around also. Or actually prosecuting those who do. Keeping a few in jail for the max sentence might have other like minded antisocial misfits at bay. 

12 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

I walk with my 7 iron.  If they attack, take a big swing.

 

A golf club? 

 

I carry a hefty stick, the sight of which deters most attacks.  The short-sighted dogs are sent away whining in pain.

3 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

I walk with my 7 iron.  If they attack, take a big swing.

Yep, do that on a rottweiler or pitbull and you will surely find out the reaction. Good luck!

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Also having the government pay for a stepped up spay/neuter program.

 

There's a problem with this that the government and not-for-profits try to hide: after the spaying/neutering, the dog is released back onto the streets. 

6 minutes ago, davb said:

 

There's a problem with this that the government and not-for-profits try to hide: after the spaying/neutering, the dog is released back onto the streets. 

Yes, and less dogs are able to breed.

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Yes, and less dogs are able to breed.

But they are still causing problems on the street. They need to be euthanized.

1 minute ago, davb said:

But they are still causing problems on the street. They need to be euthanized.

It's a complex problem with many answers. More spay/neuter. More enforcement of loose pet dogs. More euthanizing of sick dogs, which is the same program as spay/neuter. More education from the government to the people, actively having meetings in villages and providing the funding for spay/neuters.

3 minutes ago, davb said:

But they are still causing problems on the street. They need to be euthanized.

Just maybe if the Thai's stop throwing their dogs onto the street, to the temple, and as seen recently, let loose on the motorway when they become less cuddly, we would'nt have this problem

3 minutes ago, davb said:

But they are still causing problems on the street. They need to be euthanized.

Just maybe if the Thai's stop throwing their dogs onto the street, to the temple, and as seen recently, let loose on the motorway when they become less cuddly, we would'nt have this problem

The government can't even enforce kids wearing helmets on grandpas honda wave. Everyone in SEA is better off learning wild dog martial arts. 

4 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

The easiest way is having the people who live here actually care for dogs after they grow from puppy stage. Spaying or neutering, feeding, making sure they have rabies shots and medicine for diseases, etc. Also having the government pay for a stepped up spay/neuter program. This way some scum won't have to take to poisoning to control the amount of strays running loose, along with pets running around also. Or actually prosecuting those who do. Keeping a few in jail for the max sentence might have other like minded antisocial misfits at bay. 

 

That means getting the (mostly) Thai owners to take responsibility for their "pets". How many Thais actually let their dogs sleep in the house? You mention "pets running round also". These "pets" are not under control - they are running wild with their pals.

Your suggestions for  solutions all sound very grand, but in Thailand it ain't gonna happen! Why? It costs MONEY, which they would rather spend on submarines from China!!!  

Just now, sambum said:

 

That means getting the (mostly) Thai owners to take responsibility for their "pets". How many Thais actually let their dogs sleep in the house? You mention "pets running round also". These "pets" are not under control - they are running wild with their pals.

Your suggestions for  solutions all sound very grand, but in Thailand it ain't gonna happen! Why? It costs MONEY, which they would rather spend on submarines from China!!!  

That's exactly my point. The lack of care for people in general goes along with the lack of care for animals. This is why an outside entity needs to step in and take charge, meaning the government. If they spay/neuter 10 times what they do now, it will cut down on all dog problems. Not doing anything doesn't get anything done.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

That's exactly my point. The lack of care for people in general goes along with the lack of care for animals. This is why an outside entity needs to step in and take charge, meaning the government. If they spay/neuter 10 times what they do now, it will cut down on all dog problems. Not doing anything doesn't get anything done.

 

The Government is not an outside enttity - it is a Government problem which for years has been swept under the carpet for obvious reasons.

5 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

The easiest way is having the people who live here actually care for dogs after they grow from puppy stage. Spaying or neutering, feeding, making sure they have rabies shots and medicine for diseases, etc.

Many Thais do not take responsibility for their dogs/cats. Maybe this new microchip law soon taking effect will get the ball rolling in the right direction.

5 minutes ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

Many Thais do not take responsibility for their dogs/cats. Maybe this new microchip law soon taking effect will get the ball rolling in the right direction.

But like so many things promised or thought about, it will likely fall by the wayside.

6 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

I walk with my 7 iron.  If they attack, take a big swing.

Get caught on video hitting dog with 7 iron, enjoy the 19th hole at a local Thai jail.  

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

It's a complex problem with many answers. More spay/neuter.

Although the government should step up and provide funding for local government to spay/neuter, they just don't.  More often than not, it's a farang non-profit, or farang run foundation, or individual long-stay farang resident who will step up and spay/neuter dogs.  But the number of these concerned farangs providing these services are simply not enough to take care of Thailand's problems.  I have paid for the spay/neuter of temple dogs myself out of my own pocket.  

I believe that if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.  Farangs on this forum love to complain about the over-population of dogs, but how many step up with funding for non-profits, foundations, or individuals who work with locals to spay/neuter dogs (and cats) in there local area.  My guess is, "not many."  

Yes - it's a complex problem, but it begins with "Get Involved Locally."  

6 minutes ago, connda said:

Although the government should step up and provide funding for local government to spay/neuter, they just don't.  More often than not, it's a farang non-profit, or farang run foundation, or individual long-stay farang resident who will step up and spay/neuter dogs.  But the number of these concerned farangs providing these services are simply not enough to take care of Thailand's problems.  I have paid for the spay/neuter of temple dogs myself out of my own pocket.  

I believe that if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.  Farangs on this forum love to complain about the over-population of dogs, but how many step up with funding for non-profits, foundations, or individuals who work with locals to spay/neuter dogs (and cats) in there local area.  My guess is, "not many."  

Yes - it's a complex problem, but it begins with "Get Involved Locally."  

I have all the years I've been here, "adopted" many cats and dogs that see my house as a home. Some have homes they're from, but they spend most of their time here, knowing they'll get pet or food from either myself or my daughter. If everyone treated dogs well, there would be less aggressive behavior towards humans here. Not gonna happen though. I'd love to have cats here, but poisoning and dogs that come past my house have attacked and killed them, and I don't keep cats locked in the house full time, so I can't do it. Really sad how others look at domestic animals that bring so much joy and laughter to people. 

 

6 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

I walk with my 7 iron.  If they attack, take a big swing.

 

4 hours ago, save the frogs said:

A golf club? 

His penis.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Not gonna happen though. I'd love to have cats here, but poisoning and dogs that come past my house have attacked and killed them, and I don't keep cats locked in the house full time, so I can't do it.

 

I feel the same way. The soi dogs attacked my female cat. She survived with just a few teeth-scars, but it was a close call. I wouldn't get cats again in Bangkok because I can't stand keeping them in the house. The difference in their personality when they are allowed to roam versus their entire lives in a house is remarkable.

4 minutes ago, davb said:

 

I feel the same way. The soi dogs attacked my female cat. She survived with just a few teeth-scars, but it was a close call. I wouldn't get cats again in Bangkok because I can't stand keeping them in the house. The difference in their personality when they are allowed to roam versus their entire lives in a house is remarkable.

No matter how you well you treat a dog, they will sometimes attack cats, and other dogs, out of environment protection on their part. I had a cat that my dogs attacked, back in Texas, and other dogs in the same house played with it. Individuals, just like children growing up different in the same household. 

1 hour ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

Many Thais do not take responsibility for their dogs/cats. Maybe this new microchip law soon taking effect will get the ball rolling in the right direction.

The "new microchip law" is specific to the Bangkok Metropolitan Area.  Of course, there is discussion about a nationwide law.  But then comes the problems:  Implementation and enforcement.  If a law like that is passed, they would have to provide additional government funding to hire animal control officers.  They could try to do it with their police force, but then the police would be stretched thin as they become responsible for tracking down the owner of every animal in Thailand, micro-chipping the animal, adding that data to a non-existent database which would need to be funded and developed and maintained, and then the officers would need to track down every litter dropped by a pregnant dog in Thailand and attempt to associate the dog to an owner.  People would just disavow ownership, especially if they need to pay money for the microchip.

Yeah, implementation and long-term enforcement will required funds and resources that Thailand just don't have at the moment.  My guess is that the legislation, if passed, would be very unpopular with the locals.  And what does micro-chipping accomplish?  It ties an animal to a responsible owner.  It will not tie an animal to an owner who disavows ownership and responsibility for an animal.  So you just end up with the majority of villagers saying, "Not my dog."

The BMA program will offer some insights into the feasibility and then enforcement of such programs.  The program would require every animal owner to go to a vet before Jan 10 2026, and pay between 500 to 1000 THB to have their animal(s) micro-chipped if they can't get to one of the 10 city-wide vet centers which will do it for free prior to Jan 10th.  So people will need to take time off of work, and pay fees that many can not afford.  So like I said - time will tell about the feasibility and enforce of this new law.  My guess is that there will be a lot of pushback - or - many dog owners will just disavow ownership of any dog in their local area.  Then what?  In Bangkok there may be state run dog shelters, but outside of The Big City, especially in rural Thailand, the local government does not run animal shelters or impoundment centers. I doubt they ever will. 

Dogs just don't fk with me, and neither do the monkeys. They are a pita but when out and about; you gotta be there with intent and be the big dog. If one is a scaredy cat, you're gonna get sussed and abused. They pick up on weakness... look right at em.

As for the OP, that sort of sentence should also be handed down to scumbag humans, and indeed was in good ol England before we got all 'civilised' and pathetic.

57 minutes ago, davb said:

I wouldn't get cats again in Bangkok because I can't stand keeping them in the house. The difference in their personality when they are allowed to roam versus their entire lives in a house is remarkable.

I have some relatives that keep cats inside 24/7 even though they have huge yards. The cat sits by the window and just stares outside all day. They can't empathize with the animal and just think it's Ok because the cats don't complain. I think it's also about having complete control over the animal.

Neutering programs work well in areas where the dogs and cats are 'owned' and cared for.

Desexing the feral / soi animals is window dressing - and has little real effect.  Also, in the short to medium term, the stray animal menace is still present.

 

The ONLY answer to Thailands' dog problem is euthanasia, ie culling of these 'stray' dogs - but unfortunately due to religious and cultural beliefs, this will not happen. 

8 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

The easiest way is having the people who live here actually care for dogs after they grow from puppy stage. Spaying or neutering, feeding, making sure they have rabies shots and medicine for diseases, etc. Also having the government pay for a stepped up spay/neuter program. This way some scum won't have to take to poisoning to control the amount of strays running loose, along with pets running around also. Or actually prosecuting those who do. Keeping a few in jail for the max sentence might have other like minded antisocial misfits at bay. 

 

Never the dogs fault is it, always the owners, of course in Thailand millions of strays never had an owner and should be exterminated