Just now, Cameroni said:

Would I trust her if she kept texting her ex? Obviously not. Clearly that's a breach of trust, which is why she's so upset.

You don't have to be insecure and jealous to get mad when your gf/bf texts an ex. That's obviously a big nono.

Mad is something else. And when mad it have to come with reasonable consequences, not just anger

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Mad is something else. And when mad it have to come with reasonable consequences, not just anger

Reasonable consequences such as?

Just now, Hummin said:

Mad is something else. And when mad it have to come with reasonable consequences, not just anger

Obviously you managed to make her think it was her fault, and that's another psychological game. Anyway, that's also a common treatment among many

Just now, Cameroni said:

I'm concerned myself now. She's been offline for a while, and appears to have blocked my phone number so I can't call her, as well as having switched off her phone internet.

SOP for a p4p girl when with another client...

Once he's out of the way, she'll suddenly become available all the time again with a load of excuses which you'll naturally find perfectly plausible because you think she's 'honest'...

I can't recall if you mentioned if you've yet paid her the 25,000 baht you'd agreed upon ?

Just now, Cameroni said:

Reasonable consequences such as?

Personally I would end it right there if she hide she was talking to her x out of no reason, or I discovered she still flirting even just for fun and claimed no serious thing was going on. It is so early in the relationship and there is other options.

For a Thai girl, you just proved to her, you are just like the way she expected you to be, another silly man, and she will play along being angry and jealous. But you did pull the plug out for sure

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

No, it's not a money issue. It's a trust issue.

She thinks she can't trust me now. That I love my ex more. Which is not the case. I just talked to her out of vanity really, to see what her intentions were. I never intended to meet her.

You said, "No, it's not a money issue. It's a trust issue."

It is both, she does not trust you will give not give the money destined for her to the other woman, the other woman is seen as a financial competitor.

But she is good as she is managing to fit you into her schedule and keeping you interested in her.

38 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Obviously you managed to make her think it was her fault, and that's another psychological game. Anyway, that's also a common treatment among many

No, I don't think she believes it's her fault. She just thinks she has no security in the relationship anymore because I still love my ex. Which is not the case.

36 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

SOP for a p4p girl when with another client...

Once he's out of the way, she'll suddenly become available all the time again with a load of excuses which you'll naturally find perfectly plausible because you think she's 'honest'...

I can't recall if you mentioned if you've yet paid her the 25,000 baht you'd agreed upon ?

Or it could just be her way of ensuring she has some time away from me as she's quite angry now.

No I did not send her the 25000.

37 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Personally I would end it right there if she hide she was talking to her x out of no reason, or I discovered she still flirting even just for fun and claimed no serious thing was going on. It is so early in the relationship and there is other options.

For a Thai girl, you just proved to her, you are just like the way she expected you to be, another silly man, and she will play along being angry and jealous. But you did pull the plug out for sure

No relationship can survive the loss of security. If she really feels she's not secure in the relationship she'll want out.

If that is the case she may cheat with another guy and then it would be the end.

Or, if it is true love, she may sacrifice her sense of being treated unfairly and try to work it out.

I think it is true love, as we have a passionate love. A real, true love, that involves a lot of passion. So I hope that she can make the sacrifice she needs to make, as I am ready to.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No relationship can survive the loss of security. If she really feels she's not secure in the relationship she'll want out.

If that is the case she may cheat with another guy and then it would be the end.

Or, if it is true love, she may sacrifice her sense of being treated unfairly and try to work it out.

I think it is true love, as we have a passionate love. A real, true love, that involves a lot of passion. So I hope that she can make the sacrifice she needs to make, as I am ready to.

There is no true love, you got puppy love, where both have not matured yet.

True love comes by years after the excitement and affection have been tested by years of being there for each other and creating long lasting bonds

19 hours ago, CallumWK said:

I googled for that lady. If she really made that kind of money in a single day, it is outstanding evidence about how mentally disturbed the social media crowd really is

Google the other one Sophie Rain, 80 million $ in a year !!!

I dont get it either, men paying to have a glimp of them.

14 minutes ago, Hummin said:

There is no true love, you got puppy love, where both have not matured yet.

True love comes by years after the excitement and affection have been tested by years of being there for each other and creating long lasting bonds

No, true love is passionate love. Passion is the motor of love. If we have that, we will be fine.

However, I am starting to get concerned because it's been 5 hours and she's not checked her Whatsapp messages. Unless she has very legitimate internet or phone issues, this may well mean she has given up.

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No, true love is passionate love. Passion is the motor of love. If we have that, we will be fine.

However, I am starting to get concerned because it's been 5 hours and she's not checked her Whatsapp messages. Unless she has very legitimate internet or phone issues, this may well mean she has given up.

Or she is very good at giving you the silent treatment :D

Well, it is your illusion, your story, if you say passionate love is true love, all I can say good luck 🍀

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Or she is very good at giving you the silent treatment :D

I hope it's just punishment and silent treatment. If that is the case then I'll wait patiently.

However, I am concerned because to not be curious if I wrote for almost 6 hours may mean she's really ending it. She hasn't unfollowed me on Insta, but not checking her Whatsapp for 6 hours is not normal. Having said that her internet has been off for that long. So maybe it is just an internet issue.

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

if you say passionate love is true love, all I can say good luck

It is. If you have passion, if you desire her passionately and love her passionately, and she desires you passionately and loves you passionately, then you will both make sacrifices so you can keep each other. The passion means it's true love, and true love will see everything through, as there's nothing more powerful, nothing bigger than true love.

Here she would have to sacrifice her notions and preferences of a perfect guy who doesn't talk to his ex, a big ask. Only if she loves me passionately would she make that sacrifice. I would have to sacrifice my relationships with several women, also a big ask, but I am willing to do it. I love her passionately.

In the end, I have not had sex with any other woman. I did not engage in sexting with another woman. I always put Phuket Girl first, she was always the priority. I just sent some innocous texts to another girl. If we can't get past this, then it was never true love to begin with and it would have failed anyway.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I hope it's just punishment and silent treatment. If that is the case then I'll wait patiently.

However, I am concerned because to not be curious if I wrote for almost 6 hours may mean she's really ending it. She hasn't unfollowed me on Insta, but not checking her Whatsapp for 6 hours is not normal. Having said that her internet has been off for that long. So maybe it is just an internet issue.

It is. If you have passion, if you desire her passionately and love her passionately, and she desires you passionately and loves you passionately, then you will both make sacrifices so you can keep each other. The passion means it's true love, and true love will see everything through, as there's nothing more powerful, nothing bigger than true love.

Here she would have to sacrifice her notions and preferences of a perfect guy who doesn't talk to his ex, a big ask. Only if she loves me passionately would she make that sacrifice. I would have to sacrifice my relationships with several women, also a big ask, but I am willing to do it. I love her passionately.

Nope, affection is something totally different than true love. If so I had true love 15 times in life or more, which I did not. I might believe it in my younger days, but not after a few come and go in a month or two,, which started off with a bang, and ended with a bang

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

I doubt it. No way she can hook up that quickly.

Unless its her home village and the real husband is waiting for her return. ?

Old boyfriend any of those are easily true if it her home village.

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Nope, affection is something totally different than true love. If so I had true love 15 times in life or more, which I did not. I might believe it in my younger days, but not after a few come and go in a month or two,, which started off with a bang, and ended with a bang

Affection is not passion. By passionate love, I mean you truly desire her on every level, physically, emotionally, mentally, and therefore you are willing to suffer for your love.

If both feel this passionate love, then it is true love and it will survive.

1 minute ago, CharlieH said:

Unless its her home village and the real husband is waiting for her return. ?

Old boyfriend any of those are easily true if it her home village.

Yes, I did think of this too. Obviously this did concern me, she was going home, and her Thai ex of 5 years lives close by.

However, they have a very complicated history. He sexted some girl, and she then cheated on him for real out of revenge. This made her ex enraged, to the extent she feared for her life. This was partly the reason why she decided to leave and go to Phuket.

So most likely that relationship has played out. I'm more concerned she has some new guy in the wings. However, she may just want to think things over and needs quiet down time. I do believe she herself disabled her internet. I know she has an old Iphone 10, and has problems with charging that phone, However, 6 hours offline is not normal.

35 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Affection is not passion. By passionate love, I mean you truly desire her on every level, physically, emotionally, mentally, and therefore you are willing to suffer for your love.

If both feel this passionate love, then it is true love and it will survive.

Affection leads to passion, but does passion survive without affection ? That’s the question you have to ask yourself!

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Affection leads to passion, but does passion survive without affection ? That’s the question you have to ask yourself!

Affection is a part of passion yes, but passion is a lot more than "affection". Passion is true intense desire on a sexual, emotional and spiritual level, you are willing to suffer for your love, so that you can be one with the object of your desire.

I would agree that passion without affection is unthinkable but you certainly can have affection without passion. I can have some affection for an old school teacher, but I don't love her passionately. I would not be prepared to suffer for that affection. But if you truly passionately love someone, you would be willing to suffer for this love.

She just texted me "I have no internet". And then disappeared immediately, my messages not going through.

The question is are these real internet issues or is she switching off her internet?

Six hours 20 minutes without internet is not normal. And if she has no internet, how can she text "I have no internet"?

What the f is going on?

15 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Affection is a part of passion yes, but passion is a lot more than "affection". Passion is true intense desire on a sexual, emotional and spiritual level, you are willing to suffer for your love, so that you can be one with the object of your desire.

I would agree that passion without affection is unthinkable but you certainly can have affection without passion. I can have some affection for an old school teacher, but I don't love her passionately. I would not be prepared to suffer for that affection. But if you truly passionately love someone, you would be willing to suffer for this love.

Well you have to figure it out, and good news, you got rest of your life to do so ;-)

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She just texted me "I have no internet". And then disappeared immediately, my messages not going through.

The question is are these real internet issues or is she switching off her internet?

Six hours 20 minutes without internet is not normal. And if she has no internet, how can she text "I have no internet"?

What the f is going on?

You know exactly whats going on - you just don't want to admit it...

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

You know exactly whats going on - you just don't want to admit it...

Cue the unsubstantiated wild fantasy theory. No of course I do not know as there is not enough evidence for any reasonable conclusion.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

You know exactly whats going on - you just don't want to admit it...

Cue the unsubstantiated wild fanatsy theory.

Happy to oblige...

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No of course I do not know as there is not enough evidence for any reasonable conclusion.

I don’t think there could ever be enough evidence for you.... Short of walking in on her mid-enthusiastic social engagement with another bloke, you’d still be generously “erring on the side of doubt” while she explained it away as an innocent catch-up with an old friend, they slipped over, and an unfortunate wardrobe malfunction occurred, they both lost their clothes and fell on each other...

Of course, somewhere out there right now there’s already Cameroni 2.0 riding the punnani train with Phuket Girl - they met through her alternate ThaiFriendly account - freshly arrived, starry-eyed, and absolutely convinced he’s special... She’s probably already told him she’s just moved out of her 54-year-old “ex’s” place in Chiang Mai, that he was giving her 25,000 baht a month, and that she’s only ever had three partners before him. Destiny works fast when the wallet opens early... he thinks she's an 8 and much more honest than the last girl he fell for who he took on a date to Big-C before she blew him off for wealthier pastures.

Let’s just hope he’s every bit as gullible - who knows may be be treated to yet another heartfelt forum thread explaining how this one is different... right up until the phone mysteriously went off again...

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Happy to oblige...

I don’t think there could ever be enough evidence for you.... Short of walking in on her mid-enthusiastic social engagement with another bloke, you’d still be generously “erring on the side of doubt” while she explained it away as an innocent catch-up with an old friend, they slipped over, and an unfortunate wardrobe malfunction occurred, they both lost their clothes and fell on each other...

Of course, somewhere out there right now there’s already Cameroni 2.0 riding the punnani train with Phuket Girl - they met through her alternate ThaiFriendly account - freshly arrived, starry-eyed, and absolutely convinced he’s special... She’s probably already told him she’s just moved out of her 54-year-old “ex’s” place in Chiang Mai, that he was giving her 25,000 baht a month, and that she’s only ever had three partners before him. Destiny works fast when the wallet opens early... he thinks she's an 8 and much more honest than the last girl he fell for who he took on a date to Big-C before she blew him off for wealthier pastures.

Let’s just hope he’s every bit as gullible - who knows may be be treated to yet another heartfelt forum thread explaining how this one is different... right up until the phone mysteriously went off again...

Well, it's an interesting fantasy tale you weave, sadly, like 98% of all your other theories without even a single shred of any evidence, whatsoever, so basically as worthless or plausible as a dozen other possibilities for which there is currently zero evidence whatsoever.

But nicely written this time, Richard. There's that.

Just one problem, if she had found some other guy, within less than 24 hours after leaving here mind you, why would she still be texting me telling me she has no internet? Not exactly plausible, is it?

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Well, it's an interesting fantasy tale you weave, sadly, like 98% of all your other theories without even a single shred of any evidence, whatsoever, so basically as worthless or plausible as a dozen other possibilities for which there is currently zero evidence whatsoever.

I already told you she was going to go radio-silent !!!... She's leaving just enough room for plausible deniability...

You want proof - video call of her in Sisaket with a family around her is proof.

6 hrs of radio silence and one quick message - means she nipped to the toilet and messaged you to keep you on the hook... just like she did with her Austrian ex.

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

But nicely written this time, Richard. There's that.

Just one problem, if she had found some other guy, within less than 24 hours after leaving here mind you, why would she still be texting me telling me she has no internet? Not exactly plausible, is it?

Because you deleted her ThaiFriend app right ??... its not possible she use the web-browser and logged into an alternate account to chat with guys is it ?? 'cos she's honest !!! hmmm...

11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I already told you she was going to go radio-silent !!

This looks like a bona fide internet issue, actually, the messages are going through after a few hours.

12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

She's leaving just enough room for plausible deniability...

Why would she scheme for "plausible deniability" if she has another guy? Doesn't even make sense.

12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

You want proof - video call of her in Sisaket with a family around her is proof.

Yes, that's what I wanted as well, or a slip of her Sisaket bus ticket, a Whatsapp round video, or a photo of her mother's birthday party with her in it.

As for the rest, again, fantasy stuff.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

This looks like a bona fide internet issue, actually, the messages are going through after a few hours.

Wow - you are gullible - the timing of this 'bonafide' internet issue is astonishing....

These messages you are receiving every 6 hrs - are just keeping you on the hook.

If she was sending you 'real messages' that were 'pushed' when the connection issue is periodically resolved - it would 'push' unsent messages and you'd read longer real messages... not just the two word excuse - which is all she has time for when her John pops to the bathroom...

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Why would she scheme for "plausible deniability" if she has another guy? Doesn't even make sense.

Because she's keeping options open... You are an option, just like her Austrian Ex was, if things didn't work out with you - why close one door until she's certain the next one is fully open ?

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Yes, that's what I wanted as well, or a slip of her Sisaket bus ticket, a Whatsapp round video, or a photo of her mother's birthday party with her in it.

You'll get something - but it will still be questionable... a dodgy photo that could be of anywhere at any time, but it might be just enough to fool you... 'she is an honest gal after all' !!!!

You won't get a live video the excuse will be the signal is too bad for that.

You won't get a copy of the bus-ticket - her excuse will be she threw that away already.

Strange how she can't make a phone call... this internet issue is also impacting the cell phone signal - such terrible luck...

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

As for the rest, again, fantasy stuff.

You think its 'my fantasy' thats she's getting smashed by some other guy while you are counting the seconds waiting for the next 'two word message' ???...

Just trying to get you to see a clearer reality because you are being made a complete fool out of... a deer startled in the headlights of a 4p4 girl who somehow has you convinced she's a eight when she's a three... in much the same way you refuse to believe CM girl is an escort providing the girl-friend-experience...

Thailand signal coverage is god tier. You can get it on the rice fields. Signal lost the second her sponsor calls asking where she is tonight.