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Thai girl was totally shameless

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2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Very much so. She's obviously not in love with the Austrian. As she's now talking to a guy she met on Thaifriendly.

@Celsius - Its not you is it ????

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

You say that as if she was particular in some way. Unfortunately, she was exactly like BKK girl. Hardly any difference. Same playbook to a T almost. So it's not that she is singularily bad. This is the norm now Richard.

It's the norm. Twice in a row speaks its own language.

No, Cam - this is not the norm. Not remotely.

It only becomes the “norm” when you repeatedly choose to engage with mercenary operators like dribble-flaps and then confuse the consequences of that choice with reality.

For an over-50 man pursuing under-25s, transactional behaviour may appear normalised. That’s because genuine attraction in that scenario is statistically negligible. What remains is money, leverage, and performance.

The conduct you’re describing - deception, manipulation, serial dishonesty - is not normal human behaviour. It’s not modern dating. It’s not cultural shift. It is purely commercial behaviour. Pay-for-play, stripped of illusion.

Treating it as anything else is self-deception - at least you are coming round to that reality - she's not into you - she's into 'anyone' who she thinks will give her money.

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1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

It only becomes the “norm” when you repeatedly choose to engage with mercenary operators like dribble-flaps and then confuse the consequences of that choice with reality.

Well, the reality is that if you date attractive women in their early to mid twenties that is the norm. I've seen it with my own eyes. It's not just BKK girl and Phuket girl. The others were even worse. More shameless still in their money demands. So bad, some of them I didn't even pursue, because their mercenary approach disgusted me so much. One actually stole 20,000 baht in cash from my bag.

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

For an over-50 man pursuing under-25s, transactional behaviour may appear normalised. That’s because genuine attraction in that scenario is statistically negligible. What remains is money, leverage, and performance.

It's no different for men pursuing women over 50, I've just had inside info, their dates cost 100 dollars apparently, and they're much, much, much more reticent to take their panties off. At least in that regard both BKK girl and Phuket girl delivered.

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

It is purely commercial behaviour.

That's what I'm saying, that commercial approach is the norm now.

she's into 'anyone' who she thinks will give her money.

No, she doesn't take anyone. I've seen her Line and Messenger convos. She selects a few she thinks are promising. And trust me, she has a lot to choose from. Obviously money is a factor, but other things too.

28 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Wow - anger issues much ? - what a princess.

Man up and admit you are wrong.

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Can you imagine.

Living your life, thinking at night, by yourself, how the woman whom you wanted to be with, is now probably having sex with a 63 year old guy?

Can it be worse?

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Can you imagine.

Living your life, thinking at night, by yourself, how the woman whom you wanted to be with, is now probably having sex with a 63 year old guy?

Can it be worse?

How many people on this site are 63 and older?

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How this all unravelled.

Today I had told her she needs to send me her location via Whatsapp as I wanted to go to Pattaya to see her.

Obviously she refused, since she was not in Pattaya. At which point I told her she had 2 options, or she is honest and sends her location or we break up, as I didn't want to be an option whilst she bangs someone else. So she said she'll think about it.

After some time she confessed. She was in Phuket. With her ex. Apologized. Twice. Asked if I was angry. i said no, I was glad you told the truth. And she suggested we meet in Phuket. Then Chonburi. But because of the election, which is now not accepting advance votes. It had to be after 8 Feb.

I will see her.

Just now, Cameroni said:

Well, the reality is that if you date attractive women in their early to mid twenties that is the norm. I've seen it with my own eyes. It's not just BKK girl and Phuket girl. The others were even worse. More shameless still in their money demands. So bad, some of them I didn't even pursue, because their mercenary approach disgusted me so much.

I've been in Thailand since my 20's... decent, financially independent, hot women - there have plenty around (lawyers, flight attendants, dentists, sales, etc) - met through friends, mutual contacts, in clubs etc - the usual way we would back in the West... no mercenary behavior...

The p4p bars is were quite different of course - but thats the mercenary scene where girls 'only' want money - I wasn't interested in them either.

Just now, Cameroni said:

It's no different for men pursuing women over 50, I've just had inside info, their dates cost 100 dollars apparently, and they're much, much, much more reticent to take their panties off. At least in that regard both BKK girl and Phuket girl delivered.

No idea really - but I wouldn't expect to date a 20 something year old when I'm 50... though I can quite imagine there are plenty of (again) decent, financially independent, hot women in their 30's who are open to dating a decent person - they would naturally be cautious about players - which is of course understandable, so plenty of groundwork would needed - there is no fast-track to 'clattering clunge' on the first meet up - real respect and affection takes some time.

Just now, Cameroni said:

That's what I'm saying, that commercial approach is the norm now.

Its only the norm when you step outside of realistic boundaries and an over 50 year old hunting for an under 25 year old online - is very much stepping outside of a realistic boundary if looking for a normal relationship based on mutual attraction, affection and respect....

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28 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Wow - anger issues much ? - what a princess.

Man up and admit you are wrong.

I did pages ago ye dimster - who do you think put in the request to have the images deleted ???

21 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Nevertheless - I requested my posts be deleted (seems to have upset both cam and yourself) and I agree - crossed a line, with hindsight I should have PM'd Cam the info.

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Can you imagine.

Living your life, thinking at night, by yourself, how the woman whom you wanted to be with, is now probably having sex with a 63 year old guy?

Can it be worse?

Yeah - the 63 year old was reading this thread - leaving little left to imagine !!!

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Just now, richard_smith237 said:

I've been in Thailand since my 20's... decent, financially independent, hot women - there have plenty around (lawyers, flight attendants, dentists, sales, etc) - met through friends, mutual contacts, in clubs etc - the usual way we would back in the West... no mercenary behavior...

A long time ago, I suspect. Since you're in an LTR for a long time now. Now, it's all done via dating apps and social media. The former suggests to the women that there is a sea of willing men. And there is. So they act accordingly. Demand and supply. Simple economics.

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

The p4p bars is were quite different of course - but thats the mercenary scene where girls 'only' want money - I wasn't interested in them either.

I've never been to a bar with bar girls. I was trying to select decent girls. I really was. But you don't know them, until the truth comes out. It takes time. Look at Phuket girl. Everyone on here said "Oh she's so honest". Is she f. Not even close.

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

but I wouldn't expect to date a 20 something year old when I'm 50... though I can quite imagine there are plenty of (again) decent, financially independent, hot women in their 30's who are open to dating a decent person - they would naturally be cautious about players - which is of course understandable, so plenty of groundwork would needed - there is no fast-track to 'clattering clunge' on the first meet up - real respect and affection takes some time.

Yah, I've seen these 35 year olds. They send me messages on TF. If I had to be with them, or God forbid, a 55 year old, it would like saying "Yes you can play competitive football, but only for Old Age Pensioner FC. Where's the glory in that? Where's the fun in that? And as you say, those older women are MUCH ,MUCH MUUUUCH more averse to sex. Just a normal biological fact, even for men that holds true.

4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

and an over 50 year old hunting for an under 25 year old online - is very much stepping outside of a realistic boundary if looking for a normal relationship based on mutual attraction, affection and respect....

You're right, I probably have to swallow my pride and accept the inevitable, only 28 year olds now. The shame.

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Living your life, thinking at night, by yourself, how the woman whom you wanted to be with, is now probably having sex with a 63 year old guy?

No sensible person would bother wasting any energy on such thoughts.

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Can you imagine.

No.

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Can it be worse?

It is the worse.

The world is full of gullible and naive

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1 minute ago, novacova said:

The world is full of gullible and naive

Maybe. But I wasn't gullible or naive. I was deceived, yes. But in an almost professional, mafia hit style manner. This was sublime in execution almost.

I kind of respect her game.

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2 minutes ago, Celsius said:

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No comment.

It's not Celsius. She told me where the guy was from. He's neither Canadian nor Croatian.

He's full of it, as usual.

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The worst is that all the many ways in which she was adorable, delightful and unforgettable, I have to forget it all.

Seems such a waste.

1 hour ago, NorthernRyland said:

she had sex with an Indian?

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3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

The worst is that all the many ways in which she was adorable, delightful and unforgettable, I have to forget it all.

Seems such a waste.

Noooo... You still have a chance !!!... Imagine coming back on this thread and telling us how she chose you over this young adonis who's be chasing her for month !!!....

23 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She was in Phuket. With her ex. Apologized. Twice. Asked if I was angry. i said no, I was glad you told the truth. And she suggested we meet in Phuket.

Reckon she's after a bit of old gripper double teamin'.....

.... careful not to cross swords !!!

25 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

But because of the election, which is now not accepting advance votes. It had to be after 8 Feb.

Thats her 3rd lie about having to vote BTW !!!.

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29 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Can you imagine.

Living your life, thinking at night, by yourself, how the woman whom you wanted to be with, is now probably having sex with a 63 year old guy?

Can it be worse?

Ageism is completely unacceptable.

26 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Well, the reality is that if you date attractive women in their early to mid twenties that is the norm. I've seen it with my own eyes. It's not just BKK girl and Phuket girl. The others were even worse. More shameless still in their money demands. So bad, some of them I didn't even pursue, because their mercenary approach disgusted me so much. One actually stole 20,000 baht in cash from my bag.

sorry to offend you or anyone else here but a women in her 20s isn't looking for 50+ year old foreign men unless something is wrong with her or something has gone wrong in her life. Unless she needs money for some serious reason I'm guessing she was sexually abused as a child? This is very abnormal behavior for any women anywhere in the world.

Whatever, take advantage and have fun (but don't risk getting HIV ffs) and then move on. The question then comes back to you, why are you doing this in the first place? You should have been in and out weeks ago.

27 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Its only the norm when you step outside of realistic boundaries and an over 50 year old hunting for an under 25 year old online - is very much stepping outside of a realistic boundary if looking for a normal relationship based on mutual attraction, affection and respect....

This is painfully obvious. OP needs to do some soul searching on this very matter, not on the forum but with himself. This seems to be the crux of the problem.

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16 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Maybe. But I wasn't gullible or naive.

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Oh wow, you still believe that. The most gullible and naive man in Thailand. Hooked in by a p4p Big Foot and still can't come to accept it even though she left you for an OAP arm-cripple. And everyone told you from page 1 exactly what was going on.

You didn't believe. You still don't. Ego off the charts. And we are all laughing, more and more each time you come back and embarrass yourself further. That OAP has more game than you, how does that feel?

1 minute ago, josephbloggs said:

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And we are all laughing, more and more each time you come back and embarrass yourself further. That OAP has more game than you, how does that feel?

I am not laughing I'm crying 🤣 😭

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8 minutes ago, nick supreme said:

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Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah! Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah!

20 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It's not Celsius. She told me where the guy was from. He's neither Canadian nor Croatian.

He's full of it, as usual.

She tells you everything, the most honest Phuket girl.

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12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Imagine coming back on this thread and telling us how she chose you over this young adonis who's be chasing her for month !!!....

Oh I will see her for sure. Whether in the next few days or after 9 Feb. Not just because she's great in bed, but I have so many questions.

For instance she just told me that she decided to go back to Phuket in Sisaket. I wonder why.

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12 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

sorry to offend you or anyone else here but a women in her 20s isn't looking for 50+ year old foreign men unless something is wrong with her or something has gone wrong in her life. Unless she needs money for some serious reason I'm guessing she was sexually abused as a child? This is very abnormal behavior for any women anywhere in the world.

Like I said, she wasn't abused as a child. It's just her relationship history started with an older Thai male, about 16 years older than her. So this was normal for her. She just gravitated towards older guys, because she was imprinted that way by her first Thai bf. it became her archetype, to quote Jung.

13 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

The question then comes back to you, why are you doing this in the first place? You should have been in and out weeks ago.

Well, all human are wired to partner up. She would have been a delightful partner. If she had not turned out to be a lying, backstabbing betrayer, of course.

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Maybe. But I wasn't gullible or naive. I was deceived, yes. But in an almost professional, mafia hit style manner. This was sublime in execution almost.

Then you lack any sense of wherewithal being street-smart and recognizing what’s in front of you. You are your own deception, you let your hope deceive you and draw you in because you choose not to see things as they are, you are way out of your element and should wind it back a bit and take a reality check and evaluate your limitations. Consider finding someone that you can relate to in a friendship manner, someone who isn’t as desperate as you are (currently) or at least learn how to have decent friendships with women in any circumstance and relationship type. If not then you’ll probably end up in miserable relationships of smoldering unspoken regrets. Personally, women begging for money is a real sour turn off, can’t relate to them and don’t want anything to do with that element, it’s a desperate waste.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Not just because she's great in bed, but I have so many questions.

But Aussie guy handles her better, even tho he has no hands👐

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9 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

That OAP has more game than you, how does that feel?

He doesn't. He just has a lot more cash. Owns 5 condos. When he has to step up, he can buy an iphone at the drop of a hat.

I'm actually relieved it's him. Because I was afraid it was a new guy. Now I know it's this 63 year old, whom she left once before, I know I'm better in almost every way. If she loved him so much, she would hardly be talking to Thaifriendly guys behind his back. And to me of course.

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2 minutes ago, novacova said:

Consider finding someone that you can relate to in a friendship manner

I could definitely relate to Phuket girl in a friendship manner. She was the one you could go stealing apples with. Great personality.

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