3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It' s this social media and dating apps. People get addicted to the texting. That's what I had with BKK girl and Filipina virgin as well. Phuket Girl just loves being on the apps and texting people.

... and then earning a bit of wonga for dunking the biscuit....

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

So.. a Ginger with a Job !!... at least its a better start than PG girl..

No, not Ginger, a very light strawberry blonde. Very tall, very slender, seriously attractive girl.

Maybe a bit too intelligent and too professional. But let's see.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

I gave her real love. I gave her real emotions. She had everything when she was here. Except full honesty, perhaps.

And that was crucial to her, because she has BPD. People with BPD are very black and white, if you lie to them you are bad. And there's only good and bad. Very black and white.

She says she's looking for someone with a "good heart". What she's really looking for is someone who is consistent, whom she can trust, who will never lie to her. Of course reality doesn't work like that. Which is why BPD people have such a hard time.

What a rollercoaster it was with her though. Heaven and hell.

Yes, it does seem love means nothing to her. She can withhold emotions easily. Because she has BPD. She's not normal.

She's actually not that crazy for money. I mean I sent her 6000 baht. She could have just kept it. But she sent it back.

You can't diagnose a person from such a short time together. They can have depression, BPD, narcissism, bipolar or other mental issues. Depression has a person seeing things in black and white.They don't see a middle ground, where most people lie, but only the good or bad, and when someone does one wrong thing, they are quickly labeled as bad, forgetting all the good they might have done all along.

A person with an illness has trouble maintaining any relationships because of these mood swings, some of which she isn't responsible for but are from a past history of neglect and or abuse.

9 out of 10 relationships where one has depression end. Mostly the person with depression pushes the other away, and others because the one without has a very hard task trying to cope with the anger, indifference or Anhedonia, which is where they lose feelings for everything. A roller coaster yes, and one that takes a ton of patience to maintain, with no guarantees.

Sending her money and having it returned could mean she's getting money from others, or her pride is still somewhat there, thinking she can't be bought, even if that's what she's been doing all along.

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

And that was crucial to her, because she has BPD. People with BPD are very black and white, if you lie to them you are bad. And there's only good and bad. Very black and white.

When you try to rationalize her behavior you are hilarious. You have self diagnosed her supposed BPD. You really think you are a big time player. The bottom line is she played you perfectly and completely. You never will see it or accept it, but I would imagine most that have followed this convoluted tale would agree. I am not trying to put you down, just to state facts.

17 minutes ago, marin said:

You have self diagnosed her supposed BPD.

She does have BPD. All the symptoms are there.

• Fear of Abandonment:

  Intense efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. [When she saw me talking to other girls, that was it, she fled to avoid abandonment]

• Unstable Relationships:

  A pattern of intense, unstable relationships, rapidly shifting from idealization to devaluation (all good or all bad). [all her relationships were massively unstable]

• Identity Disturbance:

  A significantly unstable self-image or sense of self, leading to sudden changes in goals, values, or opinions. [Her goals, plans, values and opinions were always changing]

• Impulsivity:

  Reckless or damaging impulsive behaviors like overspending, risky sex, binge eating, substance misuse, or reckless driving. [Bingo, she ate like a horse and had sex without condoms, overspending all there]

• Self-Harm/Suicidality:

  Recurrent suicidal threats, gestures, or self-harming behavior (e.g., cutting). [she had scars on her wrists she said were from a motorcycle accident]

• Emotional Instability:

  Intense, rapidly shifting moods (e.g., severe sadness, irritability, anxiety) lasting hours to a few days, often triggered by interpersonal stress. [her moods were epic]

• Chronic Emptiness:

  Persistent feelings of emptiness, boredom, or meaninglessness. [she often sat on the couch doing nothing just feeling bored]

• Inappropriate Anger:

  Intense, uncontrollable anger, frequent displays of temper, sarcasm, or physical fights. [she initiated physical pay fights with me constantly, would hit me in pubilc, sudden anger outbursts if you wanted to take a photo]

22 minutes ago, marin said:

The bottom line is she played you perfectly

Oh I know, I was handicapped by a tsunami of oxytocin and couldn't think straight. She got attached however. Doesn't want to let me go.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She does have BPD. All the symptoms are there.

• Fear of Abandonment:

  Intense efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. [When she saw me talking to other girls, that was it, she fled to avoid abandonment]

• Unstable Relationships:

  A pattern of intense, unstable relationships, rapidly shifting from idealization to devaluation (all good or all bad). [all her relationships were massively unstable]

• Identity Disturbance:

  A significantly unstable self-image or sense of self, leading to sudden changes in goals, values, or opinions. [Her goals, plans, values and opinions were always changing]

• Impulsivity:

  Reckless or damaging impulsive behaviors like overspending, risky sex, binge eating, substance misuse, or reckless driving. [Bingo, she ate like a horse and had sex without condoms, overspending all there]

• Self-Harm/Suicidality:

  Recurrent suicidal threats, gestures, or self-harming behavior (e.g., cutting). [she had scars on her wrists she said were from a motorcycle accident]

• Emotional Instability:

  Intense, rapidly shifting moods (e.g., severe sadness, irritability, anxiety) lasting hours to a few days, often triggered by interpersonal stress. [her moods were epic]

• Chronic Emptiness:

  Persistent feelings of emptiness, boredom, or meaninglessness. [she often sat on the couch doing nothing just feeling bored]

• Inappropriate Anger:

  Intense, uncontrollable anger, frequent displays of temper, sarcasm, or physical fights. [she initiated physical pay fights with me constantly, would hit me in pubilc, sudden anger outbursts if you wanted to take a photo]

Oh I know, I was handicapped by a tsunami of oxytocin and couldn't think straight. She got attached however. Doesn't want to let me go.

Those symptoms are also from depression, and especially Anhedonia. Again, a person is not always one thing or another, but a combination of many. My ex has narcissism and depression, along with diabetes, and shares most of those symptoms also. They need to be diagnosed by a professional over time, and first need to admit they have a problem, as many live all their lives with those symptoms and never do anything about them.

36 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No, not Ginger, a very light strawberry blonde. Very tall, very slender, seriously attractive girl.

Maybe a bit too intelligent and too professional. But let's see.

You prefer them dumb and desperate for cash....

We try not to mention it often - but a cousin in the UK is strawberry blonde, which is really just another word for ginger !!... smells of weee...

You may have missed your chance... but you may get away with coping a grope on May 21st...

13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Oh I know, I was handicapped by a tsunami of oxytocin and couldn't think straight. She got attached however. Doesn't want to let me go.

She doesn’t want to see you either..... You’re getting blown out more often than Norma Jeane - like a candle in the wind.... 🌬️ 🕯️ 🙅🏻‍♀️

On 1/22/2026 at 7:58 AM, Hummin said:

Just using AI to polish the language, and maybe soften it up a bit.

So you are instructing AI to correct your Norwegian English and make your posts more Shakespearean?

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

So you are instructing AI to correct your Norwegian English and make your posts more Shakespearean?

I see the learning aspects of it.

So many times I got Critics for not spell check, and now I get criticism for using AI, and being honest about it. 🙈💉💊😈

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

So many times I got Critics for not spell check, and now I get criticism for using AI, and being honest about it.

It's better to speak from the heart and have bad grammar than fake it through AI. Are we entering an increasingly fake world where all emails are being generated by AI and the person on the other end isn't even communicating at all?

And a message for Cameroni: it's better to have loved and lost.

Just now, save the frogs said:

It's better to speak from the heart and have bad grammar than fake it through AI. Are we entering an increasingly fake world where all emails are being generated by AI and the person on the other end isn't even communicating at all?

And a message for Cameroni: it's better to have loved and lost.

I personally find it practical to see other way to say things how I like to form it with better language, so it is in my interest to do so, and nothing fake about it.

You use calculator don't you? Hopefully getting the same answer as you would if you did the calculations yourself? Same answer but more practical

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

You prefer them dumb and desperate for cash....

No, but I felt like I was being analyzed like an entry at Crufts. I made a rather clever joke. When she got it she replied "You have a sense of humour. This is good."

She seems rather serious herself.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

strawberry blonde, which is really just another word for ginger !!

No, no, this girl has very light strawberry blonde hair, nothing ginger about it. More like Palomino meets light brown.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

She doesn’t want to see you either....

She does, but only on 9th Feb. Supposedly.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

You’re getting blown out more often than Norma Jeane - like a candle in the wind....

Yup, she's up then down, on then off, light then dark, she has BPD. It's a rollercoaster gal.

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

And a message for Cameroni: it's better to have loved and lost.

Well, it's certainly better to have loved and lost this particular girl. At her best, she is a man's dream. At her worst, she's a nightmare.

It was a magnificent 40 days. But I'm paying a high price now. I was careful with financial resources and investment. But I massively over-invested emotionally with a person, who may be unable to feel emotions in a normal way.

You live and learn.

We also have limited emotional resources. How to ration these is the hardest. I tried that with BKK girl, and didn't work out very well.

15 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

She doesn’t want to see you either....

She does, but only on 9th Feb. Supposedly.

'Supposedly' - and not even for another two weeks... IF she really 'wanted' to see you - she would ask you go go there... She doesn't 'want' to see you - because you will get in the way of her other 'endeavours'.

15 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

You’re getting blown out more often than Norma Jeane - like a candle in the wind....

Yup, she's up then down, on then off, light then dark, she has BPD. It's a rollercoaster gal.

Its not Bipolar disorder - its just the actions of a p4p floozy who really doesn't give a shyite about you in the slightest so doesn't bother acting all the time.

You think its Bipolar Disorder because you want there to be another explanation as to why this girl can act nice one minute then poorly the next... there's no medical explanation - this is just the way mercenary ho's are - they just don't care and act when the want to - its just that simple.

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

And a message for Cameroni: it's better to have loved and lost.

In this case - it was, and still is it seems, infatuation... so... Is it better to be taken for a complete mug and made a fool out of than to have never been taken for a mug and made complete fool out of... ?

12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

In this case - it was, and still is it seems, infatuation... so... Is it better to be taken for a complete mug and made a fool out of than to have never been taken for a mug and made complete fool out of... ?

He got sex out of it, didn't he?

Women are not inflatable dolls. You may have to be made a mug of to get to that sex sometimes ...

I was made a mug of not too long ago ... went into a bar a while back and the girl starts spinning an elaborate tale about how she doesn't want to be working there and she would rather have a normal life with a normal boyfriend but she's down on her luck and can't seem to find a guy to settle down with ... so it got my attention and I sat there for 45 minutes listening to her story ... and several lady drinks and 600 Baht later I realized it was all an elaborate lie. Completely crazy this broad.

Moral of the story: Never underestimate how emotionally damaged some women are AND there will be some losses on your part while you're figuring it out.

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

He got sex out of it, didn't he?

Women are not inflatable dolls. You may have to be made a mug of to get to that sex sometimes ...

I was made a mug of not too long ago ... went into a bar a while back and the girl starts spinning an elaborate tale about how she doesn't want to be working there and she would rather have a normal life with a normal boyfriend but she's down on her luck and can't seem to find a guy to settle down with ... so it got my attention and I sat there for 45 minutes listening to her story ... and several lady drinks and 600 Baht later I realized it was all an elaborate lie. Completely crazy this broad.

Moral of the story: Never underestimate how emotionally damaged some women are AND there will be some losses on your part while you're figuring it out.

Your situation was a couple of hours in a bar and a couple of drinks - hardly taken for a mug... its literally their job to get a drink out of you - yours was never going to be 'different' they never are... you didn't stick to your guns for months while everyone told you what a fool you were being and telling everyone else how wrong they are and even insulting their wives !!!

Poor Cam is a somewhat different case altogether. He expected - even wanted - a normal relationship. He was drawing parallels with married couples, passing along details, and in doing so made the situation so transparent that the lies were obvious and impossible to miss.

The real difference between his situation and yours is time and intent. Cam was given advice and information repeatedly, over months. You, on the other hand, were probably a bit pished, and the whole thing lasted an hour or two before you moved on....

Can't make this stuff up.

A long time member of AN being cuckolded by a professional and Adolf's grandson.

51 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

she would ask you go go there.

She did. Several times. She really wants me to come to Phuket.

51 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Its not Bipolar disorder

You're confusing your disorders. BPD is "Borderline Personality Disorder". And she almost certainly suffers from it.

My first clue were her constantly changing plans. Even when she was living with me.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She did. Several times. She really wants me to come to Phuket.

You're confusing your disorders. BPD is "Borderline Personality Disorder". And she almost certainly suffers from it.

My first clue were her constantly changing plans. Even when she was living with me.

Put yourself in her situation.

A young girl growing up in an Isaan village. Then discovering her sexuality.

No idea if she is beautiful. Many women do not until males start making moves on her.

Then she realises she may be desirable, but still very young, maybe 16 or 17, no idea what's going on in reality.

Still no real idea in her early twenties, Just knows older men will pay money to bang her. So makes the most of it.

Hard time of life.

,

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

59 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

she would ask you go go there.

She did. Several times. She really wants me to come to Phuket.

Why aren't you there the ???? the answer is simple... because she doesnt want you there, not until 9th - when her 'current appointments' are completed....

She 'really' doesn't want you to go to Phuket for another two weeks !!!!

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

59 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Its not Bipolar disorder

You're confusing your disorders. BPD is "Borderline Personality Disorder". And she almost certainly suffers from it.

My first clue were her constantly changing plans. Even when she was living with me.

Potato Phutato.... her behaviour is like this because doesn't give a damn - thats not a personality disorder its just a crappy attitude because she doesn't care a dot.

You are trying to mask the fact that she couldn't give a shyat about you by suggesting she has a personality disorder - there you go again - your ego getting in the way of reality.

20 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Why aren't you there the ???? the answer is simple... because she doesnt want you there, not until 9th - when her 'current appointments' are completed....

She 'really' doesn't want you to go to Phuket for another two weeks !!!!

She does. She asked me several times to come to Phuket. However, I have two big work projects I need to focus on. If I was with her I wouldn't get any work done.

21 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

You are trying to mask the fact that she couldn't give a shyat about you by suggesting she has a personality disorder - there you go again - your ego getting in the way of reality.

Why would I even give a flying fk about that? I'm seriously trying to understand her. Like I said, there was this pattern of her changing plans like ALL the time. Not just now, even when she was living with me. It was A in the morning and D in the afternoon. That's a symptom of BPD. Then I looked at the others. It all fits.

27 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Put yourself in her situation.

A young girl growing up in an Isaan village. Then discovering her sexuality.

No idea if she is beautiful. Many women do not until males start making moves on her.

Then she realises she may be desirable, but still very young, maybe 16 or 17, no idea what's going on in reality.

Still no real idea in her early twenties, Just knows older men will pay money to bang her. So makes the most of it.

Hard time of life.

,

She really loves this place, Phuket. The beaches. I gather the condo she's at is nothing special, a normal condo. But the vibe there is just her thing.

She claims she is in the condo almost all day long, except for shopping.

As of today, I'm told she'll be sleeping in the living room. So there's no sex with the Austrian.

Yah, it's wonderful to be a beautiful woman. Live rent free. Get money for sex, and then open the hand when you need an iphone or clothes. It beggars belief really.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She does. She asked me several times to come to Phuket. However, I have two big work projects I need to focus on. If I was with her I wouldn't get any work done.

Ah... So thats why you are not in Phuket with her... Its because you wouldn't be able to work.

Though IF she came to Chiang Mai you would be able to work ?

You are about as logical as she is at this stage !!!

So... IF she won't go to Chiang Mai, why aren't you really in Phuket with her ??

- because you know she will refuse to see you and she won't tell you where she is exactly.

Otherwise - if you really want to see her, why not go to Phuket ? you can take your online work with you - the internet in Phuket is good.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Why would I even give a flying fk about that? I'm seriously trying to understand her.

Everyone else on this forum already does understand her - its only you who seems to lack this basic ability.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Like I said, there was this pattern of her changing plans like ALL the time.

Because she really doesn't care one way or another.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Not just now, even when she was living with me. It was A in the morning and D in the afternoon. That's a symptom of BPD. Then I looked at the others. It all fits.

It also fits her not giving a toss at all... take or leave it, whatever, no aspirations, no desire, no nothing just complete apathy - because she really doesn't care about anything other than securing the next financial reward.

10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Otherwise - if you really want to see her, why not go to Phuket ? you can take your online work with you - the internet in Phuket is good.

My work involves a monitor, a microphone, it's not really possible to lug that around. In theory there are ways around it. But I'm quite unhappy with her at the moment, because she's sleeping with this old guy.

Okay, she now says she will sleep in the living room on the couch, and tell him she has a headache, so there's no sex, but I'm very unhappy about this whole situation.

Phuket and her is distraction recipe anyway, I really wouldnt' get any work done. And what bothers me is if I go there, after I leave she'd go back to his condo again.

So I would much prefer if she comes here. I would even take her on a holiday to Chonburi then. But what annoys me is that she still insist she will not come. Even though I said I'd fly her to Phuket to vote. There's really no good reason to stay there. Not the vote. And certainly not to save money as she claims. So I'm thinking the worst about her reasons for not leaving there until the 9th.

This whole notion that she wants to not come here because of a vote, is totally incredulous anyway. Like a vote would stop anyone to see the person they want to be with. Total nonsense.

16 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Everyone else on this forum already does understand her

Not even close.

16 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Because she really doesn't care one way or another.

No, because she has BPD.

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

My work involves a monitor, a microphone, it's not really possible to lug that around. In theory there are ways around it. But I'm quite unhappy with her at the moment, because she's sleeping with this old guy.

That didn't seem to impact you when you were going to travel to Sisaket and work from a hotel with internet there.

A monitor / a microphone - see what you did there - doubled up the excuse - a microphone is tiny...

I've travelled overseas with monitors before - so easily done.

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Okay, she now says she will sleep in the living room on the couch, and tell him she has a headache, so there's no sex, but I'm very unhappy about this whole situation.

Yes, of course she will do that - she won't be on tinder or any other dating app either...

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Phuket and her is distraction recipe anyway, I really wouldnt' get any work done. And what bothers me is if I go there, after I leave she'd go back to his condo again.

Making excuses for her again - because you know she will reject to see you if you go there.

If you go there, she can go back with you to Chiang Mai on the 9th as per original plan.

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

So I would much prefer if she comes here. I would even take her on a holiday to Chonburi then.

I thought you had too much work, which is why you can't go to Phuket... hmmmm

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

But what annoys me is that she still insist she will not come. Even though I said I'd fly her to Phuket to vote. There's really no good reason to stay there. Not the vote. And certainly not to save money as she claims. So I'm thinking the worst about her reasons for not leaving there until the 9th.

And those reasons are correct - they're the same reason she doesn't want you to go there.

They're the same reason you are not going there, because you already know what will happen - she'll ghost you.

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

This whole notion that she wants to not come here because of a vote, is totally incredulous anyway. Like a vote would stop anyone to see the person they want to be with. Total nonsense.

Absolutely - its nothing to do with voting - uses used up that like twice before - this is the third time.

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Not even close.

No, because she has BPD.

You are telling yourself that to protect your ego.

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

He got sex out of it, didn't he?

Women are not inflatable dolls. You may have to be made a mug of to get to that sex sometimes ...

I was made a mug of not too long ago ... went into a bar a while back and the girl starts spinning an elaborate tale about how she doesn't want to be working there and she would rather have a normal life with a normal boyfriend but she's down on her luck and can't seem to find a guy to settle down with ... so it got my attention and I sat there for 45 minutes listening to her story ... and several lady drinks and 600 Baht later I realized it was all an elaborate lie. Completely crazy this broad.

Moral of the story: Never underestimate how emotionally damaged some women are AND there will be some losses on your part while you're figuring it out.

A bar lady sitting at my lap, told me while another bar lady chased her boy friend with a bottle in her hand "my boyfriend is a butterfly!"

She just came and snug up on me, and then the action started, and nothing I asked for, But she was dead seriously about her bf in a sad way. She already had a drink, so not even necessary to pay her one

14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

That didn't seem to impact you when you were going to travel to Sisaket and work from a hotel with internet there.

Projects hadn't started then. Now they have.

14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Making excuses for her again - because you know she will reject to see you if you go there.

No, she would be in my hotel without a doubt if I go there. Day and night.

15 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

If you go there, she can go back with you to Chiang Mai on the 9th as per original plan.

That was her plan. My plan was she comes yesterday or today. Since she persisted in not coming and instead still says 9 Feb, without any good reason, I have half a mind to throw her to the dogs. She's really shown me she doesn't really care to be with me, and on top is sleeping with this hideous monster.

16 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I thought you had too much work, which is why you can't go to Phuket... hmmmm

By then the projects will be finished.

17 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

They're the same reason you are not going there, because you already know what will happen - she'll ghost you.

Of course she wouldn't "ghost me". She's texting me every day. Day and night. But it's a huge production, I'd be unable to work, and as soon as I go, she's back in his place anyway. I don't even like Phuket. Been there. She should be coming HERE.