1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, her mother preferring her older sister, because she sends a lot of money from her bar girl prostitution is quite sad.

 

However, Phuket girl says she loves her family, above all, her family is the most important. She seems very family oriented. She also just visited her mother, clear proof of that. Told me, mum prefers my sister, but she never comes here, only sends money.

Which shows the mom's priorities. A good girl sending a few baht means less than a prostitute sending more. The girl being close to her mom should show her more, but money talks. Sad reality. 

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She also just visited her mother, clear proof of that

How do you know she visited her mother?

My former always used to be out shagging other white guys when she used that excuse.

Just now, BritManToo said:

How do you know she visited her mother?

My former always used to be out shagging other white guys when she used that excuse.

That's where trust comes in. If you don't fully trust your partner, the relationship will falter. Until you find out the truth, you have to give them the benefit of the doubt. I trusted and lost a couple of times, sadly they were the 2 wives I had which were also not good mothers. 

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She also just visited her mother, clear proof of that

How do you know she visited her mother?

My former always used to be out shagging other white guys when she used that excuse

You are cruel, the guy is in love. 

Be more considerate, he is human, he has feelings 😂

10 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

That's where trust comes in. If you don't fully trust your partner, the relationship will falter. Until you find out the truth, you have to give them the benefit of the doubt. I trusted and lost a couple of times, sadly they were the 2 wives I had which were also not good mothers. 

15 years with my untrustworthy wife ..... how much longer do I need to wait until my marriage falters?

I don't even trust her not to take money from my wallet, but it's not a problem as I don't carry more than 200bht in it.

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

How do you know she visited her mother?

My former always used to be out shagging other white guys when she used that excuse.

 

Because I saw tons of photos of her with her family in Si Saket.

 

I do have a suspicion though, that she did a little sexcation straight after, as she disappeared for 4 days. Todl me she went to see a girlfriend in Patttya. Almost certainly a tatooed guy on steroids.

 

We'd actually agreed she'd come to CM then. But that was when there was a lot of rain in CM and she didn't want to come anymore. So much for her honesty and dependability, not 100%

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

15 years with my untrustworthy wife ..... how much longer do I need to wait until my marriage falters?

 

At that point the bigger risk is that you can no longer extract from her what you want from her and grow tired of her. But even then many older guys keep her around because they like the company.

 

Generally, if you've been together that long a change in looks and income would be more of an issue than untrustworthiness I suspect.

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

How do you know she visited her mother?

My former always used to be out shagging other white guys when she used that excuse.

He is delusional.

10 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Which shows the mom's priorities. A good girl sending a few baht means less than a prostitute sending more. The girl being close to her mom should show her more, but money talks. Sad reality. 

 

And yet, this girl loves her mother above all else. Just like BKK girl with her beer addicted disagreeable mother. I wonder why Thai girls are so devoted to sub-par mothers.

 

Must be nice to be a mother, no matter what you do, the children will love you.

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

15 years with my untrustworthy wife ..... how much longer do I need to wait until my marriage falters?

I don't even trust her not to take money from my wallet, but it's not a problem as I don't carry more than 200bht in it.

If you're comfortable with that, then no need for worries. Obviously after that long you're okay with the arrangement. 

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

And yet, this girl loves her mother above all else. Just like BKK girl with her beer addicted disagreeable mother. I wonder why Thai girls are so devoted to sub-par mothers.

 

Must be nice to be a mother, no matter what you do, the children will love you.

The girls here are supposed to take care of their parents when they're older, no matter how messed up they were. The culture. My girlfriend has a dad that's to this day controlling and demeaning, and she feels she needs to be responsible for them when they can't take care of themselves, even if it means she has to put aside her own future by staying close to them.

 

Toxic people are many times in your own family, and not avoiding them has many living with depression.

 

My ex's mom had 11 children she really didn't show love for (their words), and who has that many children unless you think they're going to take care of you when you're older? Funny think, most stay far away from her.My ex herself can't stand her mom, once saying she didn't want our daughter near her and if she died, she wouldn't attend the funeral. They fight every time they're together, just like they're child and mother. and not adult daughter and mom. 

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

The girls here are supposed to take care of their parents when they're older, no matter how messed up they were. The culture. My girlfriend has a dad that's to this day controlling and demeaning, and she feels she needs to be responsible for them when they can't take care of themselves, even if it means she has to put aside her own future by staying close to them.

 

Toxic people are many times in your own family, and not avoiding them has many living with depression.

 

My ex's mom had 11 children she really didn't show love for (their words), and who has that many children unless you think they're going to take care of you when you're older? Funny think, most stay far away from her.My ex herself can't stand her mom, once saying she didn't want our daughter near her and if she died, she wouldn't attend the funeral. They fight every time they're together, just like they're child and mother. and not adult daughter and mom. 

 

Yes, BKK girl and her mother fight all the time as well, but she asks me for money to pay her mother's phone installment, pays her mother's rent and they do everything together.

 

Every family has some issues of course, but the full on love fest between Thai girls and their mothers is rather unusual, given they were often raised by the grandmother, and well, the general poor parenting. It's quite something.

On 10/28/2025 at 11:16 AM, Cameroni said:

 

You know, one of my Filipinas of sins gone past, I had her give me her password to her facebook. So I had a look. And there was a conversation between her and her Filipina friend, which went something like this:

 

"And is he generous? How much does he give for your mother and father"

 

"Yes, not bad, could be more for parents, he does't like paying for them".

 

I swear to god, these girls, were competing which of their foreign boyfriends paid them more, it was like a contest. They get off on this.

 

I asked Phuket girl about her Thai Ex, she said he paid her 15000 baht every single month for 5 years. I know that's a lie. No way that is true.

 

another interesting video from psych hacks.

maybe best not to be too extravagant on dates when first meeting a woman because it may be hard to know if she likes you or just wants money.

 

 

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

 

another interesting video from psych hacks.

maybe best not to be too extravagant on dates when first meeting a woman because it may be hard to know if she likes you or just wants money.

 

 

 

Yah, I saw that as well. I thought I screwed up taking CM girl to my place for pasta and Netflix. Turns out that was the ideal thing to do, lol.

 

I am now inclined to pull the trigger on Phuket girl. I think I wiill risk it.

you will risk it or you wont risk it?

if you date 6 different girls at 20K each, how much is that? 

Just now, save the frogs said:

you will risk it or you wont risk it?

if you date 6 different girls at 20K each, how much is that? 

 

I think I will risk it with Phuket girl, I'll bring her over.

 

No, no, She'll be told she gets the 10000 in tranches, 2500 per week. And then if she doesn't work out after 2 or 3 weeks she'll have to go. So Maybe 5K or 6K.

 

BKK girl just said she won't come down this week but next week. So she'll get nothing. CM girl is just a local date so nmaybe 1500. I might have to send 1000 to Phil and 2000 to Nakhon Phanom.

 

It's not too bad. Only Phuket Girl negotiates Trump style.

So I asked Phuket girl outright, did you have sex with any guys in these 2 months we were talking?

 

She replied, yes 2 guys in Phuket.

 

She really doesn't give a damn. Honesty on a new level.

 

I can't even say anything, cause we were just talking, we didn't have any full relationship. 

9 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

I had a long chat with her yesterday night.  She told me she will never lie to me. If she wants to talk to another guy she will tell me first. She also disclosed that she really did do a porno with her Thai ex, but just for private use, not commercially. Clearly her honesty is next level. From all she has said, her whole demeanour, I have no doubt she may be the most honest Thai girl alive today.

 

Obviously such honesty is a very positive quality. We should not underestimate this. It is very useful and necessary that a girl is honest. Very rare in Thailand.

 

From a physical standpoint, she is also very qualified, white skin, nice legs, pretty face, thick long hair. Her character generally seems attractive, unpredictable, fun, intellligent, and somehow very centred within herself. An interesting person.

 

So what is my problem? There are several rather major problems, unfortunately:

 

1 She has indicated she wants to retain her freedom. So this indicates she has great experience with men. Men in the past would have put limitations on her, as men do in all relationships. And she has now reached a point where she does not want this anymore, she values her freedom more. This means that her agreeableness will be low. The odds are she will be a very strong character tthat will argue a lot, not follow a man easily.

 

2 So she may be honest, but will be difficult. She says she has already been with 7 men, but was disappoined how they all lied to her. Another indication her agreeableness will be low, she may be jaded already with men but it also means seven men let her go. Why? There may be something wrong with her character and behaviour. Why would 7 men let her go? Probably because she is very diffiult and not agreeable.

 

3. Her insta is full of men, and I do mean only men. About 100 or so too, so this is not just a collection of thousands she doesn't talk to. She already admitted she talks to one other Russian. She probably talks to 6 other guys at least regularly.She says she will honestly tell me if she talks to other guys, but she may do it in secret. And if she openly tells me she talks to other guys I would have to throw her out anyway.

 

4. She has a lot of rules - She tends to demand certain things strongly, and does not deviate from those things much. Though she has now reduced her demands to 11000 baht cash and 9000 in shopping. It seems she has a boss bitch gene that makes her very demanding.. Again, this would make it difficult to deal with her, and it further fits the analysis that she is not very agreeable. I can see her going silent easy and quickly.If things don't go her way.

 

5. She is exceptionally focused on money - She has said she wants to be rich. She has made exorbitant financial demands. She will try to extract shopping without mercy. As soon as I do not give her money she will be gone very fast. She is most definitely not interested in me, as much as she is interested in cash. So whilst I could grow on her with my charming personality, it is cash that will rule her world.

 

Now she is a most interesting proposition. Highly attractive and unusually honest. Sparkling character. She has done a porno and previously claimed she was the best in Thailand in blowjobs, has been with 7 men, so her sexual experience is high. But difficult, hard to manage, likely to cheat, probably will be unfatihful in due course, either because she wants to talk to another guy or she wants more money and unhealthily obsessed with money generally. 

 

So these are my prblems and they are serious problems, not matter how you look at it.

 

And it's not just her. Let's say she comes and she ikes it here. She will stay for 2 months. That would mean  I would lose CM and BKK girl for sure, as they would figure out someone is living with me now. And they may be better prospects than Phuket girl. BKK is far more beautiful still and we built a strong rapport over 2 years plus now, her agreeableness iis very high. CM speaks far better English and comes from a much better family and is not money focused at all it seems. So I also have to weigh up losing these two in favour of her. Would it be really worth it? I don't see Phuket girl staying long term. She clearly has an itch to see other men "retain her freedom " - ie freedom to do other men and she is difficult, her personality and mine would not mesh well. I'm difficiult too. And her focus on money and my careful attitude with money mean she would probably be gone soon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I see you are up and running with several women.

Only the latest one , intrigues you now the most. Are you honest with her then? SHe knows about your contacts?  As you know about the hundreds of her contacts.

You never know what a person is like, you only can tell at the end.

Also with just a friend or family.

It can change in longer or shorter time, depending on agenda. OR even manage agenda while on the run.

Everything is possible. You accept or quite, it is that simple.

You make the deals, so also about her staying with you.

On youtube there is a very old movie 2010 or so of a girl, who had(s) 3 sponsors.

If you see here, you think, nice girl.. but accepts the money. The sponsors dont know about she is having several.

Future is unclear, uncertain, everything is possible.

Ahh here it is

A Sylvester Stallone was divorced, as reasons stated, he took in a dog and his wife didnt want.

At least is what I red. Maybe that was just a drop, but there you go.

O, now I read they stay together. Nah whatever

But points out, how things can change.

 

7 men who "didnt want to keep her"? BUT she tells about lies, which she cant accept, it seems.

Women can be more troubled from past then men. You dont know whatever happend in her live.

And believe me it can have quite an impact. I ve seen it, lived it.

Even not having a baby can effect everything in the worst way. Just open shot, maybe that is her problem?

She has much experience with sex, but not a child. Safe sex or ...?

Again everything is possible.  

Maybe incest, maybe raped, many maybies.

 

She is young and you say white-ish and still not married. Thai men want young with white skin.

I dont care, my woman can be as dark as the night, no problem. Attitude is my primary concern.

And that my friend is blowing in the wind. You never know. 

All the bags of experiences in your live could be working. Holding you back or make a dive.

You never know what kind of person you meet and future shows.

A relation is living with the imperfections, rather then perfections. 

ah you took the leap.

Did you ask "you had safesex" , she is honest, so can ask.

Or dont mind? Take care of yourself.

On 10/28/2025 at 11:52 AM, Cameroni said:

 

Stop trolling this therad with your nonsense. If you have nothing interesting to say, just keep quiet.

Ditto

19 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

You have a 45 year old woman. And you think that's winning. They couldn't pay me enough to lose on your magnitude of loserdom.

 

Pitiful.

 

That's not companionship. That's a punishment. Capitulation.

I had a 40 year old Thai woman 15 years ago. We are still happy together and she is now 55.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

BKK girl just said she won't come down this week but next week

You are in CM yes? How does one "come down" from Bkk to CM? North, South, East, West.

8 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

You are cruel, the guy is in love. 

Why else would he post 354 times in his own thread. Is he trying to get his point across?  555

1 hour ago, xtrnuno41 said:

ah you took the leap.

Did you ask "you had safesex" , she is honest, so can ask.

Or dont mind? Take care of yourself.

 

Well, I was going to ask her to come, but now she said she had sex with 2 guys there is a problem. One of them was her EX. So they are not really over. This is not a good development. I have to think how to proceed now.

 

I will not just ask her if she had safe sex, should I proceed and she comes, I will ask her to get tested. She is clearly a massive whore by inclination.

 

1 hour ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Only the latest one , intrigues you now the most.

 

She is certainly intriguing. I can't believe she openly admitted to having sex with two guys in the last two months. She's like a female Wilt Charmberlain.

 

1 hour ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Are you honest with her then? SHe knows about your contacts?  As you know about the hundreds of her contacts.

 

Well, I have no reason not to be honest now. I'll tell her everything, like she does with me. She has seen my Insta contacts, who are all women, 400 of them, but I doubt it bothers her one bit.

 

1 hour ago, xtrnuno41 said:

You never know what a person is like, you only can tell at the end.

 

So true. But her first impressions are certainly unusual.

 

1 hour ago, xtrnuno41 said:

The sponsors dont know about she is having several.

Future is unclear, uncertain, everything is possible.

 

Well, no such doubt with Phuket Girl. She doesn't give a damn and will tell you everything.

 

1 hour ago, xtrnuno41 said:

7 men who "didnt want to keep her"? BUT she tells about lies, which she cant accept, it seems.

Women can be more troubled from past then men. You dont know whatever happend in her live.

And believe me it can have quite an impact. I ve seen it, lived it.

 

Yes, it's true. It remains to be seen what happpened. She spent 5 years with  one Thai guy.

 

1 hour ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Even not having a baby can effect everything in the worst way. Just open shot, maybe that is her problem?

She has much experience with sex, but not a child. Safe sex or ...?

Again everything is possible.  

Maybe incest, maybe raped, many maybies.

 

Yes, who knows. Clearly she developed in a way that is highly unconventional. This much honesty is not normal. It's almost pathological.

 

1 hour ago, xtrnuno41 said:

She is young and you say white-ish and still not married. Thai men want young with white skin.

I dont care, my woman can be as dark as the night, no problem. Attitude is my primary concern.

And that my friend is blowing in the wind. You never know. 

All the bags of experiences in your live could be working. Holding you back or make a dive.

You never know what kind of person you meet and future shows.

A relation is living with the imperfections, rather then perfections. 

 

Wise words. I certainly would like to meet her. She seems quite interesting. But now I know she just had sex with her Austrian ex, that adds yet another layer of complexity. 

30 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well, I was going to ask her to come, but now she said she had sex with 2 guys there is a problem. One of them was her EX. So they are not really over. This is not a good development. I have to think how to proceed now.

 

I will not just ask her if she had safe sex, should I proceed and she comes, I will ask her to get tested. She is clearly a massive whore by inclination.

 

 

She is certainly intriguing. I can't believe she openly admitted to having sex with two guys in the last two months. She's like a female Wilt Charmberlain.

 

 

Well, I have no reason not to be honest now. I'll tell her everything, like she does with me. She has seen my Insta contacts, who are all women, 400 of them, but I doubt it bothers her one bit.

 

 

So true. But her first impressions are certainly unusual.

 

 

Well, no such doubt with Phuket Girl. She doesn't give a damn and will tell you everything.

 

 

Yes, it's true. It remains to be seen what happpened. She spent 5 years with  one Thai guy.

 

 

Yes, who knows. Clearly she developed in a way that is highly unconventional. This much honesty is not normal. It's almost pathological.

 

 

Wise words. I certainly would like to meet her. She seems quite interesting. But now I know she just had sex with her Austrian ex, that adds yet another layer of complexity. 

Close your eyes and dive in....you only live once.

Or spend your life masturbating on online forums telling all and sundry about the girl you never got.

Get stuck in Cammy , it's oniy .20 k

4 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Close your eyes and dive in....you only live once.

Or spend your life masturbating on online forums telling all and sundry about the girl you never got.

Get stuck in Cammy , it's oniy .20 k

 

What if she comes and is on the phone all the time texting her EX? She just got ploughed by him.

 

The set up feels wrong. She asks me for 11000 in cash and shopping. I very much doubt the two guys she banged the last few weeks paid her 20000. I've never had this kind of situation. Helping a girl after a relatoinship exists, okay, but 20000 just to get in the door? That doesn't feel right.

 

Maybe I'm turned off by her doing her Ex and this other guy.

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

What if she comes and is on the phone all the time texting her EX? She just got ploughed by him.

 

The set up feels wrong. She asks me for 11000 in cash and shopping. I very much doubt the two guys she banged the last few weeks paid her 20000. I've never had this kind of situation. Helping a girl after a relatoinship exists, okay, but 20000 just to get in the door? That doesn't feel right.

 

Maybe I'm turned off by her doing her Ex and this other guy.

Standard overnight rate for an average is 3000 baht. No airfares.

Go for it. Cheap fun. Don't get too concerned about other guys. 

Root and run....send her back.

9 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, BKK girl and her mother fight all the time as well, but she asks me for money to pay her mother's phone installment, pays her mother's rent and they do everything together.

 

Every family has some issues of course, but the full on love fest between Thai girls and their mothers is rather unusual, given they were often raised by the grandmother, and well, the general poor parenting. It's quite something.

 

Man, you believe every single word these prostitutes tell you.

 

Please, I don't need another 3 paragraphs you explaining you don't date prostitutes, lol

1 minute ago, emptypockets said:

Standard overnight rate for an average is 3000 baht. No airfares.

Go for it. Cheap fun. Don't get too concerned about other guys. 

Root and run....send her back.

 

So if overnight rate is 3000 how is paying 20000 a good deal?

 

She's using me, clearly.

Just now, Celsius said:

 

Man, you believe every single word these prostitutes tell you.

 

Please, I don't need another 3 paragraphs you explaining you don't date prostitutes, lol

 

She says she's not a prostitute, Celsius. And she just openly admitted to banging two guys in two months. This is an honest girl!