Many request to know where she went, but so far complete stone walling. Time to let that one go.
 

sounds like an attraction shortfall on her part for you. If she’s attracted, it doesn’t matter how you phrase your text or what you ask. If she’s not attracted, the same as true, but in a much more downer kind of way.
 

but if you wanna play a little game or two, don’t respond to her low effort texts at all. And if you do keep it breezy and under 10 syllables.

27 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

Many request to know where she went, but so far complete stone walling. Time to let that one go.
 

sounds like an attraction shortfall on her part for you. If she’s attracted, it doesn’t matter how you phrase your text or what you ask. If she’s not attracted, the same as true, but in a much more downer kind of way.
 

but if you wanna play a little game or two, don’t respond to her low effort texts at all. And if you do keep it breezy and under 10 syllables.

 

Just one. It's too early to let go though. Definitely an attraction shortfall. She's interested but not very.'

 

i didn't respond to her last text. I will text again on Friday when she comes back. Then we'll see where her interest is, if she declines or accepts.

 

If date 4 comes along, then there's still life.

I do think date 4 will come.

 

I've been in this situation before, but reversed. My Russian wife and I were courting and then I had a holiday planned  with 3 guys and a girl. It was for 2 weeks.  When I came back she was keen and things progressed fast. I did contact her with an email from holiday once though. So not quite the same, but very similar.

 

Anywyay,"amat victoria curam", preparation is the mother of victory.So before date 4 I need to analyze what went right, and what went wrong in the last 3 dates.

 

My game was relatively tight, since date 1 led to 2 and 2 led to 3, and now it looks like 4 is likely as well. However, clearly some mistakes were made, as the current situation is not ideal and her interest level has slipped. So what were they? Maybe this will help some guys avoid these mistakes, so here we go:

 

1) Things started off very well for me. I had asked for a date and she accepted immediately. Nice. The first date started with a mistake, though,i had googled a restaurant half way between us. An hour before the date I checked to  make sure it's open. It was then that I realised it is in fact a Ladies bar as well as a restaurant. I could have taken her somewhere else, but I thought this is an opportunity. I can tell her about the error, and it would be reasonable to suggest doing a dinner at home. That way escalation would be easier. I thought I'd found a dating loophole. At this point I did not know she was a traditional chinese girl and a Christian, so escalation was never on the cards on the first night.

 

Anyway, I told her about the error, and suggested we just go to cook something at my place and watch a film. She was all dressed up to go out and protested "Normally I don't go to a man's house on the first date." But then went anyway. She was very clearly apprehensive though. As we arrived and we cooked Pasta Arrabiata she notably was more at ease. However, I did not account for my kitchen having no aircon, and me sweating like Lebron. We sat down to dinner and had a good discussion. She asked about my dating history. I told her, my age and so on. It was a good conversation, she then picked a Netflix movie. Luckily a good movie and we talked during the movie. We both sat on the couch. However, this cloud of a "trick date for sex" hung over us, so I made no move on purpose, and no sign of invitation was made anyway, though she did sit on the couch with me quite relaxed. When the movie ended she said her friend asked her to meet and she had to go. This was the truth, her girlfriend and sister did meet to go to Warm Up. I saw this as a very bad sign. With the hot kitchen sweating like a racehorse, and no escalation invitation, plus the restaurant choice incomptence, I initially thought this date was a loss and I would never hear from her again.

 

However, she agreed to a second date, despite the fact I did not spend a dime on her, sweated like a racehorse cooking and made a poor restaurant choice. In hindsight it is possible this date was not a loss at all. Rather, by bringing her home and proving that I did not jump her like a horny Farang she developed trust, that wasn't there before.  She also saw how I lived normally. And still decided to go on a second date. So it is possible this date was a win, not at a loss, if one looks at the outcome in particular. Nevertheless, I would not say it went great, either, so I would just call it a loss out of abundance of caution, but very tight to call.

 

2) For the second date, obviously, I made a very careful restaurant choice. An expensive place, to reward her, after all, she agreed to a second date despite some issues, and naturally I now had to prove I was not a broke guy who can't spend money on a date. So this one had to be a bit special. I booked the rooftop bar at the Meila, as well as the Mai restaurant, and Noir bar.She looked elegant and beautiful, as always, and this time the perfect restaurant setting, a window table overlooking the city and great food, served a good backdrop to a very good conversation. She told me about her 3 bad sides, asked about mine, told me what love was to her. We laughed and talked, and it was perfect. Despite the Sky Bar telling us that the storm and rain meant we could not go there. This actually worked in my favour, in hindsight. I had brought an extra rain jacket and baseball cap for her and a big umbrella. She was also surprised I had booked a bar close by. "Oh you have a plan B", she asked delighted. We sauntered off in the rain with a big umbrella, me holding her waist firm and close. At the bar the cocktails were superb, and the Brazilian jazz live music the icing on the cake. She suddenly said "My hands are cold" and put her hand in my hand to prove it. Good you have a jacket, I smirked, James Bond style. I made so much eye contact, and touched her so much, I almost feared it was too much, but it was good.

 

My one mistake on this date was that I let the bar drag on too long, because the good live music. I should have offered tea at my place much earlier. She was receptive that night. I missed the window of opportunity. At the end she said it's late, she would go home. However, clearly things went very well. As I arrived home I received a text from her asking if I got home safe? After a bit of flirting, I arranged the third date. So the second date was clearly a win, though I also thought I did not joke enough. It maybe wasn't "fun" enough.

 

3) So the third date came along. It started bad already, I had not slept good, and was not in a good mood. When she texted saying she really just felt like Shabu I thought, this is not a good sign, her trying to change our date frame. Anyway, I stuck to the frame, and she was delighted with Palette, in 137 Pillars, one of the most beautiful places in CM. From the reception I offered my hand, she took it, and hand in hand we walked throught the lush tropical garden to the elevated teak restaurant. We started to joke around in the car already, our chemistry was growing nicely. She even said in the restaurant, can you please order for me? Pure class. She carefully served me the starter and main course, always toppping up attentively, just remarkable manners.

 

However, I then made two mistakes. First, as I wanted to bring more humour and fun, I decided to joke around with her. She had mentioned she liked Post Malone. So I thought I'd tease her about him, just for fun. I said, "Hey, I had a look at this Post Malone and he is TERRIBLE! He doesn't sing, he just talks". I had violated a cardinal rule, the teasing has to be fun with her as well, not just me. She actually really liked Post Malone and said, "I thought Sunflowers was a good song though". Big mistake, but the evening went on, it could not really phaze us much, just a small bump in the road so to speak. But then came error 2. The waitress brought a third chair for my carry all but I opted to sit there instead, as it was closer to her. This was clearly a bad move, it looked like trying to force things, being overeager and I noticed she became a bit more withdrawn. I scared the cat.

 

As we ran late, I had to get the bill fast to rush to Bar San. We did get our table after a short wait, but it wasn't a table. It was a seat at the long bar counter. The light was bright, it was very busy. DJ music. Not a good atmosphere for conversation. Not at all initimate, like Noir. She ordered two cocktails and both were terrible, far too bitter. She did not finish them. I could sense her distance. I had prepared a Chinese drinking game which saved the atmossphere for a while. But only for a while. These get old if it's just two people playing. I also made the mistake of asking about a photo on her Insta highlights where she'd written "It's been tough lately", I asked about it but just got a vague answer. I also questioned her story about just losing contact with her Taiwanese ex because she lost her phone. Clearly she did not appreciate me prying into these things. After the date her Insta highlights were blocked from me. Anyway, so I decided to leave the bar early. As we were leaving she noticed someone had stolen her umbrella. Now she was really upset. She'd lost her umbrella. The Bar gave her another one, but it was half broken. I said not to worry, I'd get her a new one, but the evening did not end well. After I drove her home, no hug or kiss, nothing.

 

So the lesson here, do not go to a bar you do not know. I'd also say repeating the hotel restaurant/ bar format twice in a row was a mistake. I tried to make jokes, but they backfired, as they were not appropriate, attacking her choice of music.Tactile touch was not as frequent as last time. She had cooled. This date started well, but from the bar, it went downhill and was a loss.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

I do think date 4 will come.

 

I've been in this situation before, but reversed. My Russian wife and I were courting and then I had a holiday planned  with 3 guys and a girl. It was for 2 weeks.  When I came back she was keen and things progressed fast. I did contact her with an email from holiday once though. So not quite the same, but very similar.

 

Anywyay,"amat victoria curam", preparation is the mother of victory.So before date 4 I need to analyze what went right, and what went wrong in the last 3 dates.

 

My game was relatively tight, since date 1 led to 2 and 2 led to 3, and now it looks like 4 is likely as well. However, clearly some mistakes were made, as the current situation is not ideal and her interest level has slipped. So what were they? Maybe this will help some guys avoid these mistakes, so here we go:

 

1) Things started off very well for me. I had asked for a date and she accepted immediately. Nice. The first date started with a mistake, though,i had googled a restaurant half way between us. An hour before the date I checked to  make sure it's open. It was then that I realised it is in fact a Ladies bar as well as a restaurant. I could have taken her somewhere else, but I thought this is an opportunity. I can tell her about the error, and it would be reasonable to suggest doing a dinner at home. That way escalation would be easier. I thought I'd found a dating loophole. At this point I did not know she was a traditional chinese girl and a Christian, so escalation was never on the cards on the first night.

 

Anyway, I told her about the error, and suggested we just go to cook something at my place and watch a film. She was all dressed up to go out and protested "Normally I don't go to a man's house on the first date." But then went anyway. She was very clearly apprehensive though. As we arrived and we cooked Pasta Arrabiata she notably was more at ease. However, I did not account for my kitchen having no aircon, and me sweating like Lebron. We sat down to dinner and had a good discussion. She asked about my dating history. I told her, my age and so on. It was a good conversation, she then picked a Netflix movie. Luckily a good movie and we talked during the movie. We both sat on the couch. However, this cloud of a "trick date for sex" hung over us, so I made no move on purpose, and no sign of invitation was made anyway, though she did sit on the couch with me quite relaxed. When the movie ended she said her friend asked her to meet and she had to go. This was the truth, her girlfriend and sister did meet to go to Warm Up. I saw this as a very bad sign. With the hot kitchen sweating like a racehorse, and no escalation invitation, plus the restaurant choice incomptence, I initially thought this date was a loss and I would never hear from her again.

 

However, she agreed to a second date, despite the fact I did not spend a dime on her, sweated like a racehorse cooking and made a poor restaurant choice. In hindsight it is possible this date was not a loss at all. Rather, by bringing her home and proving that I did not jump her like a horny Farang she developed trust, that wasn't there before.  She also saw how I lived normally. And still decided to go on a second date. So it is possible this date was a win, not at a loss, if one looks at the outcome in particular. Nevertheless, I would not say it went great, either, so I would just call it a loss out of abundance of caution, but very tight to call.

 

2) For the second date, obviously, I made a very careful restaurant choice. An expensive place, to reward her, after all, she agreed to a second date despite some issues, and naturally I now had to prove I was not a broke guy who can't spend money on a date. So this one had to be a bit special. I booked the rooftop bar at the Meila, as well as the Mai restaurant, and Noir bar.She looked elegant and beautiful, as always, and this time the perfect restaurant setting, a window table overlooking the city and great food, served a good backdrop to a very good conversation. She told me about her 3 bad sides, asked about mine, told me what love was to her. We laughed and talked, and it was perfect. Despite the Sky Bar telling us that the storm and rain meant we could not go there. This actually worked in my favour, in hindsight. I had brought an extra rain jacket and baseball cap for her and a big umbrella. She was also surprised I had booked a bar close by. "Oh you have a plan B", she asked delighted. We sauntered off in the rain with a big umbrella, me holding her waist firm and close. At the bar the cocktails were superb, and the Brazilian jazz live music the icing on the cake. She suddenly said "My hands are cold" and put her hand in my hand to prove it. Good you have a jacket, I smirked, James Bond style. I made so much eye contact, and touched her so much, I almost feared it was too much, but it was good.

 

My one mistake on this date was that I let the bar drag on too long, because the good live music. I should have offered tea at my place much earlier. She was receptive that night. I missed the window of opportunity. At the end she said it's late, she would go home. However, clearly things went very well. As I arrived home I received a text from her asking if I got home safe? After a bit of flirting, I arranged the third date. So the second date was clearly a win, though I also thought I did not joke enough. It maybe wasn't "fun" enough.

 

3) So the third date came along. It started bad already, I had not slept good, and was not in a good mood. When she texted saying she really just felt like Shabu I thought, this is not a good sign, her trying to change our date frame. Anyway, I stuck to the frame, and she was delighted with Palette, in 137 Pillars, one of the most beautiful places in CM. From the reception I offered my hand, she took it, and hand in hand we walked throught the lush tropical garden to the elevated teak restaurant. We started to joke around in the car already, our chemistry was growing nicely. She even said in the restaurant, can you please order for me? Pure class. She carefully served me the starter and main course, always toppping up attentively, just remarkable manners.

 

However, I then made two mistakes. First, as I wanted to bring more humour and fun, I decided to joke around with her. She had mentioned she liked Post Malone. So I thought I'd tease her about him, just for fun. I said, "Hey, I had a look at this Post Malone and he is TERRIBLE! He doesn't sing, he just talks". I had violated a cardinal rule, the teasing has to be fun with her as well, not just me. She actually really liked Post Malone and said, "I thought Sunflowers was a good song though". Big mistake, but the evening went on, it could not really phaze us much, just a small bump in the road so to speak. But then came error 2. The waitress brought a third chair for my carry all but I opted to sit there instead, as it was closer to her. This was clearly a bad move, it looked like trying to force things, being overeager and I noticed she became a bit more withdrawn. I scared the cat.

 

As we ran late, I had to get the bill fast to rush to Bar San. We did get our table after a short wait, but it wasn't a table. It was a seat at the long bar counter. The light was bright, it was very busy. DJ music. Not a good atmosphere for conversation. Not at all initimate, like Noir. She ordered two cocktails and both were terrible, far too bitter. She did not finish them. I could sense her distance. I had prepared a Chinese drinking game which saved the atmossphere for a while. But only for a while. These get old if it's just two people playing. I also made the mistake of asking about a photo on her Insta highlights where she'd written "It's been tough lately", I asked about it but just got a vague answer. I also questioned her story about just losing contact with her Taiwanese ex because she lost her phone. Clearly she did not appreciate me prying into these things. After the date her Insta highlights were blocked from me. Anyway, so I decided to leave the bar early. As we were leaving she noticed someone had stolen her umbrella. Now she was really upset. She'd lost her umbrella. The Bar gave her another one, but it was half broken. I said not to worry, I'd get her a new one, but the evening did not end well. After I drove her home, no hug or kiss, nothing.

 

So the lesson here, do not go to a bar you do not know. I'd also say repeating the hotel restaurant/ bar format twice in a row was a mistake. I tried to make jokes, but they backfired, as they were not appropriate, attacking her choice of music.Tactile touch was not as frequent as last time. She had cooled. This date started well, but from the bar, it went downhill and was a loss.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

. My Russian wife and I were courting and then I had a holiday planned with 3 guys and a girl. It was for 2 weeks.

 

You never mentioned you were Indian.

24 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

. My Russian wife and I were courting and then I had a holiday planned with 3 guys and a girl. It was for 2 weeks.

 

You never mentioned you were Indian.

 

I'm not, this was just friends, the girl was like an honorary guy.

45 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I'm not, this was just friends, the girl was like an honorary guy.

 

uhhhhh,  i think he was joking  Mr. C ..........   

 

🙄🙄

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

uhhhhh,  i think he was joking  Mr. C ..........   

 

🙄🙄

 

 

 

 

Just in case, there was no impropriety with that girl. No gangbang anyway, one of the guys did hit on her. But it didn't end well. 

Analyzing date 3 in deep dive mode, I realise now the reason the Post Malone joke fell flat, was technical excution, I had not made it clear that I was not serious. She thought I was seriously dissing Post Malone. It was the joke mechanics itself that were faulty.

 

I had to make clear I wasn't serious before I come out with the Post Maone comment. Then it would have been funny to her as well.

Other lost chances for humour:

 

Q: Have you been married before? Had children?

 

A; Yes, I've been married 6 times and have 11 children from 7 different mothers.

 

The difference, here it's obvious I'm joking. With the Post Malone comment, it could have been serious.

 

22 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Other lost chances for humour:

 

Q: Have you been married before? Had children?

 

A; Yes, I've been married 6 times and have 11 children from 7 different mothers.

 

The difference, here it's obvious I'm joking. With the Post Malone comment, it could have been serious.

 

22 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Instead of answering the question. That is the mistake!! 

 

Did you go on to tell her the truth? 

35 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

 

Instead of answering the question. That is the mistake!! 

 

Did you go on to tell her the truth? 

 

Yes, indeed, answering that question was a mistake. It painted me in a corner, and there was no need. As I could have turned it into a really funny joke.

Whilst I think I will be able to get date 4 with CM girl, I've made an Insta date with an 18 year old waitress just in case. I feel so terrible, as it feels like going down so many rungs on the ladder. The waitress is cute, nice girl, but she's a waitress will clearly have money problems. But better that than nothing on Saturday, I need to fine tune the skills obviously.

Of course now I need to find yet another venue for the date with the waitress. It's a full time job dating, so much work. Never mind the money, the work! Picking venues, cleaning car, laundry clothes, get dressed, get cologne it doesn't end.

 

She's all the way deep in Mae Rim. Maybe I'll pick a place in Nimman. But then that's not close to my place.

 

I suspect if CM girl offers date 4, it won't be Saturday, as she comes back Friday or Saturday, but Sunday or during the week that comes. So it will be good to get the practice in with the waitress. It should also help my general vibe, as I'll be more relaxed, since if it doesn't work out with CM girl, I'll have another local option.

 

It also really helps to understand the mind set of girls like CM girl, who has so many options, if you have some yourself. You understand how much LESS important you are, as there are so many other possibilities.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Whilst I think I will be able to get date 4 with CM girl, I've made an Insta date with an 18 year old waitress just in case. I feel so terrible, as it feels like going down so many rungs on the ladder. The waitress is cute, nice girl, but she's a waitress will clearly have money problems. But better that than nothing on Saturday, I need to fine tune the skills obviously.

This bizarre story is beginning to demonstrate the best strategy to end up with nobody

14 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

This bizarre story is beginning to demonstrate the best strategy to end up with nobody

 

Nah, it's good to get in a bit of practice before the date with CM girl. 

 

You think she's not running plan A, B, C, D and E? Almost certain she is.

No problem about thinking!

 

The problem arises when you believe what you think!

 

 

6 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

No problem about thinking!

 

The problem arises when you believe what you think!

 

 

Well, she went on a trip suddenly. Where she is not forthcoming with any information. What does that tell you?

 

At first I thought, surely she did not go on a trip with a guy on Sunday or Monday, as she went on a date with me Saturday, and such a trip would have to have been planned.

 

But then I remembered my Filipina, went on a 3 week trip with me in Phil, and 2 weeks later went on another trip with another guy for 2 weeks, I found out later.

 

Women actually have no qualms to talk or date one guy and arrange a holiday with another guy. Sad but true.

 

I accept this of course, I understand the reasoning, and she is free to do as she pleases. I will play to win and beat any competition. But let's not be blue-eyed.

I just did a video call with the waitress. She's a lot prettier than I thought.But no English to speak of, already asking for money for school fees. Back to basics.

 

I so hope CM girl comes through.

oh , man......... thank haysus that I am just a simple man .   And that the hi so stuff was never my thing .     Sure,   a nice restaurant once in a while,  but i always had my favorite small places where i was known, and the food was fresh .   

That's how i like my girls.... shy, unassuming , and definitely not expecting me to follow their directions.   Diamonds in the rough .   I found that girls are most attracted to guys who are SANUK .   Sanuk can not be practiced.   It is not about telling jokes. It is about being naturally witty .  

Also,  the fact that i was often busy was attractive .  Where they could see me in action..

I could not play bass... but as a small coffee shop owner i did show my stuff.  

After , when i no longer had that shop..... dates were a LOT harder to get .   hmmm.  speaks volumes.

In Thailand in my fifties i also had something i was involved in .  Though its "who you are that matters" ....... what you are sure does seem to make a difference.    Who sits on the bench.... and who plays... are two different stories.

 

 

16 minutes ago, rumak said:

Sure,   a nice restaurant once in a while,  but i always had my favorite small places where i was known, and the food was fresh .   

 

Oh I love the small quality normal restaurants too, but I have nothing against a good 5 star place now and then.

 

16 minutes ago, rumak said:

. shy, unassuming

 

This waitress is shy and unassuming. I like her. English will be a problem.

 

16 minutes ago, rumak said:

Sanuk can not be practiced.   It is not about telling jokes. It is about being naturally witty .  

 

How to be witty when she doesn't speak English? I have to learn Thai. That takes months.

16 minutes ago, rumak said:

I could not play bass... but as a small coffee shop owner i did show my stuff.  

After , when i no longer had that shop..... dates were a LOT harder to get .   hmmm.  speaks volumes.

 

Well, you were the contextual Alpha in that coffee shop. That's what did it.

16 minutes ago, rumak said:

Though its "who you are that matters" ....... what you are sure does seem to make a difference. 

 

Tell me about it, back home I was somebody. Here, I'm just a well dressed Farang. You can communicate social status a little, but one would have to learn Thai, build a network.

 

It think girls like someone they can talk to, who make them feel good. All these things, physical attractiveness, status, yes, they all help, but without the gift of talking to them so they feel good, it's pointless. I think that's why I had these spades of chemistry with the CM girl. We could talk.

38 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

How to be witty when she doesn't speak English? I have to learn Thai. That takes months

 

More than months, Mr. C .     

Now then,  what else you have to do ?    Commit yourself to something other than your addiction to this AN site .   I mean,  really !!    Take the challenge.  And... little by little you will see the rewards .   Schools for me (thai learning)  were mai sanuk .  But i did go for a little more than a month.  Then studied on my own,  the old fashioned way .  Flash cards to learn vocabulary.  And a simple method (from an old AUA system of books that no longer exist) .   Basically, how to make simple sentences.  

You speak about "intelligence" .... well,  surely learning the language is the priority in making this experience in your life a much more fulfilling one.   

You can always PM me for pointers on what I did .   And,  really only about an hour or so a day once i had a little understanding of the basics.   This is one case where a thai chic might enjoy teaching YOU something .  And you can take a break from being an alpha .

Nice to show another side sometimes  😉

7 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

More than months, Mr. C .     

Now then,  what else you have to do ?    Commit yourself to something other than your addiction to this AN site .   I mean,  really !!    Take the challenge.  And... little by little you will see the rewards .   Schools for me (thai learning)  were mai sanuk .  But i did go for a little more than a month.  Then studied on my own,  the old fashioned way .  Flash cards to learn vocabulary.  And a simple method (from an old AUA system of books that no longer exist) .   Basically, how to make simple sentences.  

You speak about "intelligence" .... well,  surely learning the language is the priority in making this experience in your life a much more fulfilling one.   

You can always PM me for pointers on what I did .   And,  really only about an hour or so a day once i had a little understanding of the basics.   This is one case where a thai chic might enjoy teaching YOU something .  And you can take a break from being an alpha .

Nice to show another side sometimes  😉

 

Thank you.

 

You are absolutely right. Learning Thai should be more of a priority.

 

I will pm you.

57 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

but without the gift of talking to them so they feel good, it's pointless. I think that's why I had these spades of chemistry with the CM girl. We could talk.

 

Warning :   talking with the average Thai person (not highly educated with intl. travel experience ) ........ requires understanding that Freud and Joseph Conrad are not subjects they find SANUK .     You need to find the third world consiousness within you .   hahaha

 

I am well aware that the Farang who seeks intellectual stimulation in a Thai relationship is almost always disappointed !     ( though some here will of course say that their's is DIFFERENT)

31 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

Warning :   talking with the average Thai person (not highly educated with intl. travel experience ) ........ requires understanding that Freud and Joseph Conrad are not subjects they find SANUK .     You need to find the third world consiousness within you .   hahaha

 

I am well aware that the Farang who seeks intellectual stimulation in a Thai relationship is almost always disappointed !     ( though some here will of course say that their's is DIFFERENT)

 

You know, even with my highly intelligent Russian wife, I did not find much intellectual stimulation. She would not read philosophy or history, not her thing, and I think few women like it.

 

They tend not to want to engage in things where they are not going to shine.

 

So I was even ok with BKK girl, as long as the girl showed intelligence, and you could respect her obvious intelligence, full on intelllectualism was not required. I mean it's nice, but I don't expect it.

 

This is where CM girl suprrised, she wanted to know everything looked up everything. When I mentioned Lake Toba, she looked it up and wanted to talk about it.

15 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Nah, it's good to get in a bit of practice before the date with CM girl. 

 

You think she's not running plan A, B, C, D and E? Almost certain she is.

I think she is only running one plan. Hers.

2 hours ago, emptypockets said:

I think she is only running one plan. Hers.

 

The more I think about it, the more I suspect she went on a trip with a guy.

 

I remember in the car on Saturday, I suggested to buy her a new umbrella on Sunday or Tuesday. She never said anything. I suspect because she knew she would not be around and did not want to lie.

 

Same with the text on Sunday, I suggested we meet later in the day to shop for her new umbrella. Again, she ignored that text. No "I can't because..." but she did not say anything. She did not want to lie.

 

At the dinner she asked me where I would go on holiday. She then said she'd like to visit Bali. Most likely a well off farang took her on a trip to Bali and she had it planned on Saturday, during our date,

already.

 

This would also explain why she was more distant on Saturday on our third date. It wasn't just the bar was so bad, she was already flying off in her mind with this guy to Bali.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

The more I think about it, the more I suspect she went on a trip with a guy.

 

I remember in the car on Saturday, I suggested to buy her a new umbrella on Sunday or Tuesday. She never said anything. I suspect because she knew she would not be around and did not want to lie.

 

Same with the text on Sunday, I suggested we meet later in the day to shop for her new umbrella. Again, she ignored that text. No "I can't because..." but she did not say anything. She did not want to lie.

 

At the dinner she asked me where I would go on holiday. She then said she'd like to visit Bali. Most likely a well off farang took her on a trip to Bali and she had it planned on Saturday, during our date,

already.

 

This would also explain why she was more distant on Saturday on our third date. It wasn't just the bar was so bad, she was already flying off in her mind with this guy to Bali.

Don't obsess too much over one woman.

Bang what's available, move on when it becomes problematic.

It's not as if there's any lack of available women in SEA.

 

I've found the less you appear to want them, the more likely they are to stay around.

30 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Don't obsess too much over one woman.

Bang what's available, move on when it becomes problematic.

It's not as if there's any lack of available women in SEA.

 

I've found the less you appear to want them, the more likely they are to stay around.

 

That's sound advice and all true of course. But this CM girl is  really not like all the other girls i've met. Yes, she's very attractive, beautiful and slim, and that's not unusual, BKK girl is more attractive even, but her behaviour is very high  quality. Her demeanour, the way she acts with you. Her excellent English makes it a pleasure to converse with her.

 

You know how you just have chemistry with some girls, well I have it with this one. She's the one I want.  Far more than any other.

 

Of course I did do what you suggest. I am seeing a woman this morning and I have a date with a tall 18 year old waitress for tomorrow but I can already tell these girls are low quality. The waitress was already asking for money for school fees, her English is poor.

 

I'm really thinking about this CM girl too much.

24 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

That's sound advice and all true of course. But this CM girl is  really not like all the other girls i've met. Yes, she's very attractive, beautiful and slim, and that's not unusual, BKK girl is more attractive even, but her behaviour is very high  quality. Her demeanour, the way she acts with you. Her excellent English makes it a pleasure to converse with her.

 

You know how you just have chemistry with some girls, well I have it with this one. She's the one I want.  Far more than any other.

 

Of course I did do what you suggest. I am seeing a woman this morning and I have a date with a tall 18 year old waitress for tomorrow but I can already tell these girls are low quality. The waitress was already asking for money for school fees, her English is poor.

 

I'm really thinking about this CM girl too much.

Probably your worst post so far- and that is saying something.

 

Calling people you don't even know, "low quality" says more about you than them

 

Your criteria appears to be mostly about beautiful etc shows me you are more in lust than in love

 

This is my last post on the topic - you are a lost cause!

33 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

Calling people you don't even know, "low quality" says more about you than them

 

Yes, maybe that is a bit harsh. I've not met the waitress yet, and she is very responsive on text and quite nice. Just because she has money problems, and poor English, I guess I should not disqualify her already.

 

You may have a point.

 

33 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

you are more in lust than in love

 

Lol, it's a bit early to be "in love" with CM girl. Of course I am very attracted to her on more levels than her beauty, but for love, there has to be reciprocal interest. Whilst she agreed to go on 3 dates with me, that was a possibility, but now her holiday away with no information, has clearly changed things.

 

You can't love someone who is not attracted to you, that would be crazy.