1 minute ago, theshu25 said:

Stalker

 

I would love to drive to Chiang Dao actually, but I won't. I know she has to focus on her mother. I was just making sure she knows, if it all gets too much and she needs some strong arms to comfort her, someone to talk to, I will be there for her.

 

I spoke to my mother, who just nursed my grandmoter before she died, and she told me this was the right thing to do. When you nurse a person, sometimes it can all be too much and you'd like to talk to someone about it.

 

So that would be what my text refers to.

14 hours ago, novacova said:

Yeah right, so she says…

 

sometimes the lads that sponsor these ladies do come and stay for a few months this time of the year!

 

I just want to say, don't believe all these Youtubers, all this Manossphere nonsense, according to them I should have done nothing and waited for her to text me again. If I had done that I would not have been at her house yesterday, kissing her. We would not be texting today.

 

There are things under heaven and earth which none of our human minds can comprehend, and therefore sometimes the best course of action is to do what you believe in your heart is the right thing to do and just take a chance.

 

I knew what I did was wrong on paper, against all wisdom on Youtube. Only my father, my Thai friend who is a pastor got it right, they told me to write to her. Everyone else said not to do it. They were wrong.

 

 

Well, can’t really say you’re not all in.
 

belief in myself, belief in potential, belief in good people is what has sustained me in this long and painful breakup with my lovely ex-wife.

 

We need to renounce various bad relationship habits. We need to make our hearts wise. But without belief, it’s all dead.

4 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

Well, can’t really say you’re not all in.
 

belief in yourself, belief in potential, belief in another person is what has sustained me in this long and painful breakup with my lovely ex-wife.

 

We need to renounce various bad relationship habits. We need to make our hearts wise. But without belief, it’s all dead.

 

Well, it all comes when you meet someone you know you can believe in. 

 

My heart was telling me over and over again that this is a good girl, unlike any other, and my head was saying the same. When you find her, truly there is no doubt. I knew. So it was easy to believe, when you know.

 

We also need to renounce our belief in these Youtube experts, what really matters the most with women is the words you SAY. What you say is vastly more important than money, status, looks or anything else, including age.

 

It was words that made the difference. Just words.

14 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

sometimes the lads that sponsor these ladies do come and stay for a few months this time of the year!

Sometimes these ladies juggle three or four of them throughout the year.

Reason to believe is another good Bruce song appropriate to this moment.

29 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

Reason to believe is another good Bruce song appropriate to this moment.

 

I've got him on loop now as I listened to Land of Hopes and Dreams. Secret Garden is another beauty.

 

Bruce KNOWS!! "She'll let you in her mouth...if the words you say are right...."

 

Bruce KNOWS! He gets it!

 

It's the words, I should have asked Bruce.

Land of hope, and dreams is my break up song:
 

You don’t know where you’re going

 

But you know you won’t be back

 

I’m so old, I saw Bruce in a bar Pre-fame.

 

 

8 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

Land of hope, and dreams is my break up song:
 

You don’t know where you’re going

 

But you know you won’t be back

 

I’m so old, I saw Bruce in a bar Pre-fame.

 

 

 

It is a song of farewells. For me it is a farewell to a time of uncertainty, a time of absence of love.

 

That is the farewell for me, as I enter a new land of hope and dreams for a future that may be better than all my past ever was.

22 minutes ago, novacova said:

Sometimes these ladies juggle three or four of them throughout the year.

 

She may have been juggling twenty. It doesn't matter. You know why?

 

Cause I beat them all.

 

This girl wants something real, somebody who is serious. And serious is my middle name,  baby!

9 hours ago, Cameroni said:

I just kissed CM girl.

Ah! First base. Well done.

3 minutes ago, Lightyear said:

Ah! First base. Well done.

 

I think she thought so too.

 

Judging by her beautiful smile.

23 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I think she thought so too.

 

Judging by her beautiful smile.

Don't forget to backfill your pipeline with some more hot leads though. CM girl would be a big win, but lots could still go wrong and she looks like a very competitive opportunity. 

13 minutes ago, Lightyear said:

Don't forget to backfill your pipeline with some more hot leads though. CM girl would be a big win, but lots could still go wrong and she looks like a very competitive opportunity. 

 

There is still a lot that can go wrong, and there is a lot to do. Complicated by the situation with her mother, where even she doesn't know how long that situation will last. It could potentially go on for  years, if the mother gets a kidney transplant, or it could end soon. I just don't know, and neither does anybody.

 

I hope she comes back from Chiang Dao within a matter of days, one week, and it's all good news with the mother. But who knows.

 

If you think about it though, she WILL be focused on her mother now, on nursing her. So she won't be entertaining other men much, assuming there are others in play. Which, as you rightly estimate, given her outstanding and lovable character, her golden aura and lovely look and ever present smile, is not a remote possibility.

 

Having said that there won't be many guys who would have signalled as clearly as I have that they are serious about her. When she looked at her mangled phone case and thought "I need a new one" she did not call on Brad, Ted, Tom or John. She called on Cam. And Cam delivered. Cam came and kissed her. Cam developed a love story in her head.

 

I'm still not sure if that meme, "I'll stay single until a man shows he's serious about me...instead of saying "Let's see where this goes",  This is not a road trip Sir!!....was about me or not. I never said "Let's see where this goes". But I know I responded to it better than anyone else. 

 

If there is another guy and he said "Let's see where this goes" he must be a seasoned player and a formidable opponent. I've seen the rich guys in her Insta. But women go by the words, how they feel about a man, and neither riches nor looks nor status nor anything else plays as big a role as words. And your friend Cam is a seasoned lawyer who studied literature and poetry and psychology. All my experience with words will come into play.

 

I will not give up. I will not lie down. I will not rest until  she is mine.

 

The other girls, are a complication now actually. Fiilipina virgin texted me yesterday that she will wait until December for me. Nakhon Phanom virgin texted she needs money. Puhket girl is threatening to come this week and will not take "No" for an answer, the 29th is unacceptable apparently. BKK girl texted yesterday how she can't afford a new phone, but no word about coming.  To be honest I am really quite disenchanted with all of these ladies now and I regret having the pipeline. Because I'm almost certain I'll have to cut them all off soon. But not yet. My immediate problem is how to deal with Phuket Girl's insistence she come this week.

 

I don't have the energy to add new ones now anyway, or the inclination. I slept maybe 2 hours thinking about CM girl non-stop. I hope I don't get fired as I'm not sure I can do my job with 2 hours of sleep.

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

 

 

This girl wants something real, somebody who is serious. And serious is my middle name,  baby!

And yet she is fobbing you off with BS excuse so she can spend time with a sponsor that just arrived !

In order to win this battle, the crucial intelligence will be "What are her wants and needs"?

 

If I step back for a second, and consider the current state of information, it's starting to look like whilst CM girl is middle class, she is not necessarily very rich. This is good. It is actually a very good thing.

 

She would have had her tastes whetted by the various expensive holidays with her rich Taiwanese Ex. He only took her on luxury holidays. This must have opened a door, ignited desires.

 

She has stated that she believes she is getting older at 26 soon, and indeed, there are only 3 years until full settle down panic mode would kick in.

 

When we analyze what men and women want, on a very basic level it is straight forward, men want sex and women want money. That's almost always correct. 

 

However, CM girl may want more, she may want a luxury life. She said she wants to travel to Bali. Why? It is clear, Bali has the luxury aura.

 

So me taking her to the Mai at Melia and Palette at 137 Pillars was actually the right move. Satisfying her desire for a mobile phone case was the right move.  But just like with men, we don't just want sex, we want the full package, intelligence, fun, humour, coolness, domestic goodess, honesty, reliability etc, so women also want a lot more than money usually.

 

But apart from money and luxury what does she really want? A man to settle down with? Maybe  she is jealous of her sister having a boyfriend, I don't know. I don't know enough about her yet. I know she was cheated on 3 times by her first boyfriend. So I know she wants loyalty.

 

After all I experienced the same with BKK girl. Come to think of it, what did she want? BKK girl wanted an easy life, to escape the drudgery of factory work, so she sought a male who  could satisfy this want. Me. When she lived iwth me, no more work, sleep til 11, get up and noodles delivered for you, restaurants shopping and an easy life. Unfortunately, when she got all this, she ceased to want the relationship. She already got what she wanted. After that she wanted something else, she wanted adventure.

 

So, money, yes, luxury yes, but CM girl may also want adventure, in terms of travel, in terms of being with a man.

 

What does this mean? You guessed it,. I'm taking her on a holiday to Bali. Where I have friends and family, who will already make me look good.  When you know how to play the game...it's easy.

 

20 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

And yet she is fobbing you off with BS excuse so she can spend time with a sponsor that just arrived !

 

That's a very pedestrian mistake to make. CM girl specified the hospital where she will be with her mother. IF she had been lying she would never have stated where she was going, as I could go there and check and verify. No, CM girl really is going to hospital.

 

Besides, nobody jokes about their mother being close to death and very sick. This is not the kind of excuse peole  would use. It would be bad taste to most people. Particularly for Thais.

 

She didn't "fob me off", she made a special point to make sure I go and see her before she goes to Chiang Dao hospital. High interest. She provided full transparency of where she would be. I checked and my last message was read at 4.30 am. She said she would leave at 5 am to go to Chiang Dao hospital. Everything checks out.

 

All the evidence points to her telling the truth. No evidence points to any "sponsor" coming to see her.

 

 

37 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

There is still a lot that can go wrong, and there is a lot to do. Complicated by the situation with her mother, where even she doesn't know how long that situation will last. It could potentially go on for  years, if the mother gets a kidney transplant, or it could end soon. I just don't know, and neither does anybody.

 

Keep a cool head, don't be tempted to offer one of your kidneys. 

4 minutes ago, lamyai3 said:

 

Keep a cool head, don't be tempted to offer one of your kidneys. 

 

Hmmmmmmm....

 

Do I really need two?

Learn as much as you can about your girlfriend’s mother’s medical issues. Use that knowledge to help your girlfriend understand them too. By guiding her through it, she’ll feel supported and the two of you will bond more deeply. As she works through this with you, you’ll gain insight into how she thinks, what she feels, and what matters most to her.

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Bacon1 said:

Learn as much as you can about your girlfriend’s mother’s medical issues. Use that knowledge to help your girlfriend understand them too. By guiding her through it, she’ll feel supported and the two of you will bond more deeply. As she works through this with you, you’ll gain insight into how she thinks, what she feels, and what matters most to her.

 

 

 

What excellent advice. Thank you. Exactly that I shall do.

 

Very good thinking.

She sent a video of the hospital. There is no doubt, she is there.

 

I am told her mother got worse, It's now fifth stage. But she cannot get a transplant, it's impossible to get a kidney.

 

The hospital said thereis no need to admit the mother now. She will be back today.

 

She must be very tired, get up at 4 am, now rounds with relatives, father and aunt.

17 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

OK, I understand that you are in a different situation to that of me, you have a very different way of thinking 

 

I'm dripping with money, I give them a little bit of money, I have plenty.

 

I've worked hard over the years, I've invested wisely, I'm enjoying life now. The girls I'm with are STUNNERS, the most beautiful, young women. 

 

It's not dumb to me. 

 

 

 

Thailand already has a money obsessed culture, and your supposed generosity further contaminates that. Women leave decent men with decent incomes chasing “big fish,” like you only to be disappointed when they don’t get picked. It fuels a toxic. culture of greed, deception, and deceit. All so you can feel like a big shot and a nice guy. 

 

But even from your perspective, the more a woman charges you the less she respects you. My ex girlfriend in Patpong explained this to me, how she would ask men that she didn’t like, for more money. 

 

 

This girl is really in a different league. If she loses her phone I'd have to buy an Iphone 17pro Max.

 

No fobbing this one off with a Xiaomi.

 

One thing I would consider a red flag, hyper privacy. Videos and photos sent are on disappear mode.

 

What is she hiding?

 

I'm always suspicious of women who hide things.

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I'm always suspicious of women who hide things.

How old have you told her you are?

13 minutes ago, Everyman said:

 

Thailand already has a money obsessed culture, and your supposed generosity further contaminates that. Women leave decent men with decent incomes chasing “big fish,” like you only to be disappointed when they don’t get picked. It fuels a toxic. culture of greed, deception, and deceit. All so you can feel like a big shot and a nice guy. 

 

But even from your perspective, the more a woman charges you the less she respects you. My ex girlfriend in Patpong explained this to me, how she would ask men that she didn’t like, for more money. 

 

 

I met a girl recently, attractive 29yo, poor, has a 3yo child. She came to Pattaya at 18yo, worked agogo bars. I asked where is all the money she earned over the years, She giggled and said she had a Thai boyfriend for many years, drained her dry, beer and cigarettes and other stuff.
Now she's close to the scrap heap, penny less.

I've got a very good American friend.
He hasn't got a lot of money, short, fat, bold, wears thick prescription glasses and is butt ugly, he hates the gold digger girls.


Young beautiful girls have a useby date.
I'm pro Gold digging chicks, you got what they want, she has what you want.
Makes sense to me.

 

Cha Ching 💲💲💲💲💲💲💲💲

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

What is she hiding?

That's a very good question. Holidays in five star places would need a bit of investigation too, as you mentioned earlier.

 

On the one hand, it could be an innocent thing: She might have her own source of wealth from family or business. On the other hand, she might have a boyfriend that she's in the process of dumping, which still works for you.

 

There's also a possibility that she might be someone's minor wife or mia noi, who's playing around - you should find this out, just in case. Jealous Thai men can be quite dangerous, especially rich ones. They all own guns....

 

44 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She sent a video of the hospital. There is no doubt, she is there.

 

I am told her mother got worse, It's now fifth stage. But she cannot get a transplant, it's impossible to get a kidney.

 

The hospital said thereis no need to admit the mother now. She will be back today.

 

She must be very tired, get up at 4 am, now rounds with relatives, father and aunt.

 

how often does the mother have to go for dialysis?

29 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

One thing I would consider a red flag, hyper privacy. Videos and photos sent are on disappear mode.

Yes, this is a concern. 

 

I bought a girlfriend a new phone a while back, I have her old phone, she has gone back to Isaan. 

 

I turn on her old phone, I have access to her, Facebook, Instagram, Google, Gmail, messager etc, I read her messages occasionally. I noticed on her Instagram account, if remember, she has disappearing messages active. 

 

Blew me away, didn't even know about this feature 😂